Who Said the Ogabemedia is Useless?

Well, we suppose we did on a few occasions, but never mind that.

Thing is, barely has Michelle Bachmann announced that she’s actually running for president and the OgabeFluffers are already in full court press mode about her horrible, inexcusable “gaffe” about John Wayne having once lived in Waterloo, Iowa (which, we’re told, is a state up north that for some reason people with the IQ of collard greens think is important), and he apparently hasn’t!

Clear the front page, film at eleven! What a monumental gotcha! It’s almost as if somebody said that asthma could be cured with breathalyzers, that Austrian is a language, that the U.S. has somewhere between 57 and 59 states, that West Virginia is closer to Arkansas than Illinois is, that Iran is a tiny insignificant country followed by, 24 hours later, saying that it’s a grave threat, that the Selma civil rights march somehow made his parents beget him three years before the march, that president Bush’s response to 9/11 made Hugo Chavez get elected three years prior to the attack of the towers, that 11 people dead in Kansas is ten thousand dead, who claims his uncle liberated Auschwitz, which would come as a big surprise to the Russians unless his uncle actually served in the Red Army (which would actually not be all that surprising) etc. etc. etc.

Of course, that never happened. Nobody could be THAT stupid! And if somebody actually were to say something that Cosmically Cluefucked, the media would be all over is ig’nant ass. They certainly wouldn’t be constantly hailing the hayseed cretin as the “smartest president who ever lived.” After all, this is the same media who proclaimed Dan Quayle the dumbest ape ever because he misspelled “potato.” Once.

So what does this have to do with the Make Believe Media’s usefulness?

Simple, really. The fact that they’re going absolutely nuts over Bachmann’s notion that John Wayne once lived in a town where his parents actually lived tells us all we need to know about whether Bachmann is worth supporting or not. Only somebody who freaks them out, scares them shitless and makes them vomit in their venti lattes with terror can possibly be worth supporting.

So thanks, Ogabemedia, we’re all in for her now.

Thatisall.

62 comments

  1. 1
    LC Darth Scoundrel growls and barks:

    He may not have lived in Waterloo, but he was born in Winterset.

  2. 2
    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    The nightmare of the of the liberals:

    President Michelle Bachman
    Vice-President Herman Cain
    SecState John Bolton
    Sec. Interior Sarah Palin :em01:

    I still need someone for justice who can nuke that cesspool but I don’t know any ethical. lawyers who are still practicing. :em03:

  3. 3
    themandownthehall growls and barks:

    I’ve been all in for Bachman ever since she stood on the floor of the House and told Murtha that Marines are not cowards and basically he should stop acting like one. Oh, it was beautiful. They forced her to apologize but come on, that’s more balls than all the milquetoast losers we are putting up now.

    Plus, it’s might be just me, but I think she’s cuter than Palin. After dumb looking losers for oh, 22 years (Reagan was goofy looking, but no loser) it would be good to actually enjoy watching our president. 🙂

  4. 4

    I’m on the Cain Train, but I could support Bachman.

  5. 5
    Lady H growls and barks:

    Cain/Bachmann 2012 for me!

  6. 6
    FrankOK growls and barks:

    Even though Cain would have nothing to do but sleep through the Senate procedings as its president, not sure if it would be wise to run him in any capacity after the present bumblefuck’s tenure in the White House.

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    LC Guy S growls and barks:

    Cain has a good grasp of business/economics … but has gaffed badly on his grasp of the middle east, and to some extent constitutional questions (I think he was a bit off on the second amendment, but I could be mistaken on that). That being said, I still like the man, but have some doubts about his ability to handle foreign policy issues.

    Ms. Bachmann on the other hand….a sharp mind, tongue….walks the walk and talks the talk. This one has it all in one bag, fully packed. Sarah Palin may be loaded for bear, rifle at the ready, but Bachmann has her finger on the neutron bomb, ready to turn the corrupt rat bastards in DC into little more than radioactive waste.

    Best ticket I could hope for in 2012…Bachmann/Santorum. With Pailin as Sec Interior, Bolton Sec State, West Sec Def (or Misha or Kim DuToit). A fella can dream can’t they?

  8. 8
    FrankOK growls and barks:

    LC Guy S growls and barks:
    June 28, 2011 at 9:43 am
    … snip
    Sarah Palin may be loaded for bear, rifle at the ready, but Bachmann has her finger on the neutron bomb, ready to turn the corrupt rat bastards in DC into little more than radioactive waste.
    … snip

    Without fail, all politicians have great aspirations and wondermous lines of bullshit until they are read into their respective offices.

    I’ve every intent of voting for this lady should the bastards of the GOP allow me the opportunity.

  9. 9
    irish19 growls and barks:

    Some excellent tickets there. I wouldn’t have thought of Palin for Interior, but I like it. I’m glad we can all seem to agree that Bolton is a natural at State. The metrosexuals there would have their knickers in a twist at the very thought. I like it!

  10. 10
    Muzzy growls and barks:

    Bachmann is far too crazy to get the Presidential nomination, despite her strong poll numbers in Stepford, Connecticut. Also, just out of curiosity, given that it’s highly likely that Romney will get the nod come 2012, who would you guys fancy to be his VP candidate? We can discount Palin and Paul, I think. I doubt the former will be running at all this time around, and even if she were she wouldn’t settle for VP again. Cain is far too lightweight and green. Huntsman is too moderate, and too similar to Romney. Michele Bachman is, well, nuts.

    So who does that really leave? Gingrich’s campaign has exploded, Pawlenty’s just too much of a pussy, and Santorum is just too much of a hateful piece of shit, and his Google problem seems insurmountable. It poses a dilemma. I wouldn’t mind seeing a Romney/Perry ticket. I can’t really think of any other combinations which would have a chance at ousting Obama in 2012. How would you guys feel about Romney/Perry?

    Edit: Nothing to correct, I’m just using the edit feature for the sheer joy of it! Thanks Deej!!

    Edit 2: Just used it again!!! 😀

  11. 11
    LC Draco growls and barks:

    Cain may have gaffed on the Middle East, but that’s why you appoint a decent Sec of State. Hell, most Americans thought it was Sarah Palin who said, “I can see Russia from my house” (paraphrased) when it was Tina Fey.

    Most Americans can’t even label 50% of the countries in the Middle East.
    Most Americans can’t tell you the difference between Sunni and Shi’ites.

    And my fucking favorite…”In Iraq, there are Sunni’s, Shi’ites and Kurds.” I FUCKING HATE THAT…the first two are religious distinctions, and the third is an ethnicity!!

    Cain/Bachmann would drive the left freakin’ batshit!! And Palin for Sec of Interior is a good idea!! As is West for SecDef.

  12. 12
    LC Guy S growls and barks:

    Draco, granted the Kurds are indeed an ethnicity, but my understanding is they also “practice” a slightly different flavor of Islam (can’t remember it off hand, but it isn’t the “mainline Sunni or Shi’ite”, or even Wahabist brands o’ shit). So there is at least some truth to marking them as a third sect.

    Muzzy, where do you get off on the Bachmann is crazy meme? Especially when the current occupant of the oval office has exhibited at least two major mental concerns (Narcism, and Megalomaniac for starters. I am sure the fellow Rotties can add even more.)

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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    Muzzy growls and barks:
    June 28, 2011 at 10:15 am

    How would you guys feel about Romney/Perry?

    Two RINOs?

    Re: Bachmann – I like her brand of crazy – it’s necessary.

  14. 14
    lc purple raider growls and barks:

    Also, just out of curiosity, given that it’s highly likely that Romney will get the nod come 2012, who would you guys fancy to be his VP candidate?

    I’ve said it before,and I’ll say it again, we don’t need no stinking Limey poofters picking Mittens to run against O’Stalin.

    And apologies to any actual stinking Limey Poofters.

  15. 15
    LC Guy S growls and barks:

    Romny/Perry? Oh great, that’s what we need RINO-spineless/RINO-withaspine. Both of em “Bush lite”. And we all know how well Bush did on such issues as illegal aliens, the ecconomy, and fighting the WOT as it really needs to be faught (admittedly doing a far, far better job than the current asshole in charge…but still…). Nope. It is time for some serious house cleaning, and returning back to constitutional basics. Bachmann and “a player to be named in the future”, is what is needed now.

  16. 16
    Muzzy growls and barks:

    L.C. Guy S. wrote:

    Muzzy, where do you get off on the Bachmann is crazy meme?

    A couple of years back, the Chinese tentatively floated the idea of replacing the dollar as the world’s reserve currency with the Yuan. Bachmann evidently interpreted this to mean that the Obama Administration might scrap greenbacks altogether, forcing Americans inside America to trade with Chinese currency. She introduced a bill which called for “A constitutional amendment to bar the dollar from being replaced by a foreign currency”.

    That’s crazy. It’s also Bachmann’s MO. It typically breaks down into a simple four step formula. Step one is always to latch on to any speculative political tidbit which might, if radically misunderstood, potentially pose a threat to her ‘Little House On The Prairie’ sensibilities. Step two, is to take the aforementioned tidbit and twist, manipulate, and misrepresent the fuck out of it until it dies of shame. Step three is to mount a laughable protest campaign against her very own strawman. And step four, the endgame to all this, is to get her terrifying polyethylene rictus on TV as much as possible before the fuss dies down. On this particular occasion, she went so far as to drag Geithner and Bernanke onto the floor of the house to officially disavow their entirely imaginary plans to scrap the dollar. It’s all crazy. But that’s just how she operates. Imagine Joe McCarthy dragging Cabinet members into hearings and demanding that they publicly repudiate the works of Groucho Marx, and you get a rough idea of Bachmann’s political style.

    Crazy.

  17. 17
    Muzzy growls and barks:

    lc purple raider

    I’ve said it before,and I’ll say it again, we don’t need no stinking Limey poofters picking Mittens to run against O’Stalin.

    Not only will he be picked, but come election day you’ll be hauling your dumb ass down to the polling station to punch the ticket for him. Man, that’s gonna hurt :em05:

  18. 18

    I like Michelle, but I don’t think she’s presidential. For starters, she has to start answering questions with something other than “Look, I love this country and the American people and they want a president that is strong and loves this country”. That seems to be her rote answer and it shows either an unclear grasp of the hard issues or that she is unprepared to deal with an antagonistic media that will roast her at every gathering.

    The House and Senate Rotties, that’s where the real battle needs to be fought. If we spend all our energy trying to regain the White House, our momentum in getting majorities in Congress will fizzle out. Personally, I think president bobblehead will not run in ’12, given his track record for never completing a job he starts I think he will cite “family reasons” and bail out of the plane he sent into a nosedive. Look for hillary to step in and run…..anyone wanna wager on that? :em03:

    oh yeah, cool emoticons

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    LC Draco growls and barks:

    @LC Guy….there are Sunni and Shi’ite Kurds (Not many tho). And it’s pretty much clear the distinction between the two sects. The bottom line is did Mohammed designate a successor. THAT is the biggest distinction.

    Maybe the other thing you were thinking about was the Yazidi I worked with a lot of the in Iraq. They are considered Satan worshippers, but the funny thing is that is an Arabic/Muslim translation of … “The reason for the Yazidis reputation of being devil worshipers is connected to the other name of Melek Taus, Shaytan, the same name the Koran has for Satan.”

    My argument is the DoD party line is ‘Sunni, Shia and Kurds’…and it is, IMHO, WRONG!!! It is just a pet peeve of mine that people with no time in theater spout the party line.

    Not a hit on you…just an FYI!

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    Muzzy, I think you’re not factoring in the lay of the political landscape. A few years ago it WOULD have been Mittens, then Bambi showed up and changed the political landscape. Obama can’t run effectively as the outsider any longer, so he’s not gonna get the 18 year old morons to put down their video games and go vote for him. The GOP primary will be decided in no small part by who can separate themselves from Obama policies the best. Romney simply can’t do that.

    My guess is Perry, my hope is Cain.

    That being said, if it is Mittens, I probably will hold my nose and vote for him. And yes it will hurt. It will not however hurt as much as another 4 years of the Kenyan Witch King.

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Muzzdrake squeals:

    Not only will he be picked, but come election day you’ll be hauling your dumb ass down to the polling station to punch the ticket for him. Man, that’s gonna hurt

    Spoken like a true “stinking limey poofter”. :em05:

  22. 22
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Jaybear sez:

    Personally, I think president bobblehead will not run in ’12, given his track record for never completing a job he starts I think he will cite “family reasons” and bail out of the plane he sent into a nosedive. Look for hillary to step in and run…..anyone wanna wager on that?

    It’s possible but you have to factor in Obongo’s ego. I think it’ll depend on who ends up running against him and the status of his poll numbers.

    He’ll have to be pretty much “bottomed out” in popularity before he’ll give up his throne.

    If he does, it wouldn’t surprise me if Hillary steps up to “save the democrat party”.

  23. 23

    Care to guess who is posing with Rosalynn Carter?

    :em05:

  24. 24
    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    @ Muzzy (the eternal ignorant slut)

    Is that all you got to establish your position that Bachmann is crazy? How pathetically weak.

    You (and the GOP) have no fucking clue what’s going on out here. Those independants that you use to justify your nonsense, are mostly Tea Party people now. There is very very little of the independants (as you knew them) out there. The polarization is just about total now. So you keep on with your Romney theory. You may end up correct on that one. What you are definetly incorrect on is who will end up voting for whom. I can gaurentee you I won’t be voting for some fucking squishy retread from the North East.

    Now, do you have anything substatial to support your position that Bachmann is “crazy”? Or are you just going to keep pulling nonsense out of your arse?

  25. 25

    HA!! Romney just compared himself to the Liberal Lion of the Senate, The late unlamented Ted Kennedy, Muzzy.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-romney-20110628,0,2535294.story

    As far as that goes, it’s a nail in his political coffin.

  26. 26
    Muzzy growls and barks:

    L.C. Terrible Troy wrote:

    Is that all you got to establish your position that Bachmann is crazy? How pathetically weak.

    Introducing a constitutional amendment to “protect the dollar” from threats that only ever existed in her feverish imagination seems pretty damn crazy to me. At the absolute least, Bachmann’s inability to differentiate between reserve currency and just plain old everyday currency shows that she is a woman of truly weapons grade stupidity. And those are the charitable interpretations. The uncharitable interpretation is that she is neither stupid or crazy, but just believes that everybody else is. However you slice it, she doesn’t come off looking good.

    So you keep on with your Romney theory. You may end up correct on that one. What you are definetly incorrect on is who will end up voting for whom. I can gaurentee you I won’t be voting for some fucking squishy retread from the North East.

    Good for you. I mean that sincerely. I admire a man of principle (even if he is an enormous prick). Just out of curiosity, is there any candidate who (apart from Palin, obviously) would make you consider voting for Romney if he/she got picked for VP? I have a couple of Republican friends who’ve voiced enthusiasm over the possibility of a Romney/Perry ticket, and even a Romney/Jindal pairing. If you had to pick a VP for Romney, who’d you go for?

  27. 27
    Muzzy growls and barks:

    P.S. – Forgot to mention, you can’t pick Alan West ‘cos he’s definitely ruled himself out of the race.

  28. 28

    muzzy parrots:

    At the absolute least, Bachmann’s inability to differentiate between reserve currency and just plain old everyday currency shows that she is a woman of truly weapons grade stupidity.

    and I mean parrot, did a google search to see if she had really advocated a Constitutional amendment to protect the dollar…and she had. But every google hit, said the same exact thing, here are a couple of examples:

    I suppose the question to ask is whether Drudge, Bachman, Beck et al. don’t understand the difference between a reserve currency and a global currency or whether they do, in fact, understand and just want to confuse and alarm their listeners. (Link)

    Bachmann does not seem to understand that the reserve currency is not the same thing as the currency you and I use when we go out to buy bread. That is somewhat tragic considering that those two things are very different (if a country’s reserve currency was the same as the currency people use to buy bread, how would it be a reserve at all? how could it stabilize markets and serve as a back-up?).

    I can find more but, I find it very redundant. As I do with much of the criticism and slandering being done by you and the rest of the liberals on Ms. Bachmann. LIke I said, I don’t find her presidential at all….and none of the guys I would vote for are running…….yet……..

    Would I vote for her if she WAS the candidate? Goddamned straight I would, I will not stay home nor will I vote third party. I despise president bobblehead al-obama and everything he stands for, he needs to go…..this country is in a nosedive right now and it ain’t because of Bush anymore. This is obama’s house now, and he keeps a messy one.

  29. 29
    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    “Fast and Furious” just got more interesting (via Sister Toldjah):

    Gunwalker: ATF head to tell all?

    Money shot ‘er quote:

    So, is Melson the new John Dean, or is this a prelude to being the fall-guy? At Pajamas Media, Bob Owens considers five possibilities:

    Melson falls on his sword.
    Melson implicates the head of the DoJ Criminal Division, who signed off on a Gunwalker wiretap.
    Melson implicates Attorney General Holder, himself.
    Melson also names Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano.
    Melson does the “full Dean” and implicates Obama.

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    Slightly to the right of Gingis Khan growls and barks:

    Jaybear sez….

    Would I vote for her if she WAS the candidate? Goddamned straight I would, I will not stay home nor will I vote third party. I despise president bobblehead al-obama and everything he stands for, he needs to go…..this country is in a nosedive right now and it ain’t because of Bush anymore. This is obama’s house now, and he keeps a messy one.

    you’ve hit the nail on the head, Bachmann is far from my first choice, matter of fact she’s pretty far down the list. If she gets the nod though I’ll gladly push the button for her. At this point I’d probably vote for anyone over Bambi, we just can’t take another four years.

  31. 31
    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    @muzzy

    Romney could have Jesus Christ himself as a running mate. I won’t be voting for him.

    And you are correct. I have a enormous prick. The question is…who told you? Was it your mom or your sister?

    Now, Now, don’t get your frilly knickers all in a twist. I’m just kidding. I’m sure your mother and sister are both honorable chaste individuals.

  32. 32
    Muzzy growls and barks:

    Romney could have Jesus Christ himself as a running mate. I won’t be voting for him.

    Fair enough. Thanks for the straight answer.

    And you are correct. I have a enormous prick. The question is…who told you? Was it your mom or your sister?

    It was my sister. She’s the one who arrested you for indecent exposure at that Church picnic :-p

  33. 33
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    I’m going to lock this thread in the Wayback Machine and pull it up a year from now.

    Who knows?

    Someone we aren’t even talking about could get “the nod” from the GOP.

    The democrats and leftists in general know that Obama’s only hope to get re-elected is for the republicans to run another McCainlike “squishy retread”.

    They and “the unbiased media” will back off Romney while savaging (calling them stupid, insane, psychotic, racist, etc.) all his opponents in the primaries. (like they did with McCain)

    If Romney gets the nomination, the gloves will come off and they’ll rip him to shreds with every kind of slander, lie, distortion, personal attack, etc. they can muster along with heavy doses of “the race card” thrown in for good measure.

    It won’t matter who Romney selects as his running mate, he/she will get “the Palin treatment”. (Calling he/she stupid, crazy, psychotic, racist, etc..)

    It’s very tired and predictable.

    The good news is that a lot of folks on “The Right” and leaning towards “The Right” realize this and won’t be so quick to rubber stamp a retread, especially with so many fresh faces out there.

    I’m going to pretty much ignore the polls leading up to the GOP Convention.

    I suspect that they’ll be heavily weighted in Romney’s favor and if/when he crashes and burns and someone (who the leftists think is stupid, crazy psychotic, racist, etc. like Bachmann, Perry or Palin for example) else gets nominated, all the “unbiased pollsters” will scratch their heads and asses and make excuses while the Left will squeal about fraud and evil conspiracies.

    It’s all speculation.

    The real fun won’t start until next year.

  34. 34

    :em08: Okay, I’m staying right there for the moment. Let’s find out ALL of who’s running, google their history with a magnifying glass, And work VERY hard to get the best in the primary. And if #1 isn’t the one running after all, let’s ride whoever it actually ends up being to HONOR THEIR OATH!!!!!

  35. 35

    Oh, and EM! 33 was very good! :em01: (These are cool emoticons! And thank you for the edit function. Most appreciated.)

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    It was my sister. She’s the one who arrested you for indecent exposure at that Church picnic :-p

    Fuck’en Federales…always pissing on a guys harmless, drunken debauchery. Besides the cheerleaders told us they were all over 18. :em01:

  37. 37
    LC Sir Rurik, K.o.E. growls and barks:

    Just to make Muzzy’s head explode, my preferences are Palin-Bachman. In either order because they’re the ones who most bother the enemy.
    But mainly, I’m casting my negligible influence according to negative choice. So far I’ve ruled out “She turned me into a Newt” Gingrich, the Huckster, Huntsman (whoever he might be), and Romney. All others are still open for consideration.
    For another twist, I’d like to have West at State and Bolton at Defense. Cross-training, and they’d understand each other very well. How about Giuliani at DOJ; he’s show a willingness to get his man, and he should have a good instinct where to look for the bodies. – Orrrrr …. Maybe Sheriff Babeu.

  38. 38
    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    Muzzy ,while mittens is there, fundraising, how about you fucking keep him?

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    LC Trooper THX1138, Imperial Gadget Geek growls and barks:

    I would not pull the lever for romney unless he had my wife and baby son locked up in a Jigsaw-type booby trap and voting for romney was the only way to save them. :em07:

    Sadly, since it looks like cali is going the open primary route, look for dems to foul up the nominating process there.

    Since the primary is kinda supposed to be the parties’ way of letting their members have a say in the nominating process, explain to me what the frack kind of sense it makes to open the primaries to people who are not, in fact, in that party?! :em08:

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Just out of curiosity, is there any candidate who (apart from Palin, obviously) would make you consider voting for Romney if he/she got picked for VP?

    Muzzy, please. I mean, it’s not like you matter a tinker’s cuss where American politics are concerned, but there is something that it’s obvious that neither you nor our very own GOP RINOstablishment get, and that is that nobody except for the most brain dead care one rat’s arse hair about VP “offers.”

    Nobody, unless they lived their lives sniffing glue and eating lead-based paint chips, thinks that the VP slot matters one little bit. The post is wholly ceremonial, no power comes with it and to think that you can buy off even moderately intelligent individuals with it is beyond retarded.

    It’s to the point where offering to placate a candidate’s opponents by putting his or her opposite number on the number two slot on the ticket isn’t a peace offering, it’s a deliberate insult. To illustrate: How would you feel, or how do you think that the RINO establishment here would feel if we were to offer to put Mittens on the VP ticket if Palin were on the top slot?

    Yeah, thought so.

    OK, I’ll cop to an exception: I DID, actually, get out and vote in 2008 in spite of McSwine because Palin was in the number two slot, but that was ONLY because I nurtured a vain hope that McVain would suffer a massive coronary on or about January 21, 2009. With Mittens McOgabe that’s not even a remote possibility so no, it doesn’t matter who that slimy, Ted Kennedy-loving fuck chooses as his running mate, he can stay fucked for all that I care.

  41. 41
    FrankOK growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:
    June 29, 2011 at 12:16 am

    – – – – – –

    With Mittens McOgabe that’s not even a remote possibility so no, it doesn’t matter who that slimy, Ted Kennedy-loving fuck chooses as his running mate, he can stay fucked for all that I care.

    Agreed – we need to be tossing the fucking communists and UN lovers, not electing more of them.

  42. 42

    I’m not a Bachmann fan. At all. I agree with her on a lot, but much like Palin, she spews empty platitudes without much substance. She knows how to play to a crowd, and I’m sure she’s a nice person, but that’s about it.

    That said…

    As a former Army public affairs specialist, the first thing I would tell generals and politicians alike is: GET THE MESSAGE OUT. MAKE IT CLEAR. MAKE IT CONCISE. DO NOT AD-LIB. PRESENT COHERENT DETAILS WHEN NEEDED. HAVE THE BALLS TO CONFIRM AND AFFIRM YOUR VIEWS. GET OUT.

    Otherwise you open yourself up to the gaffetastic bullshit we see today. And frankly, I will castigate Zero, Biteme, Bachmann, Palin and anyone else who opens their maws without thinking on national television.

    The John Wayne thing… cute metaphor, but really… needed? No. Think before you speak. Do your research and decide whether it’s wise to bring it up, whether you’re going to be called on to clarify, or whether you’re giving the mainstream media a chance to take potshots at you. Stupid move.

    The John Q. Adams thing… HOLY CHRIST ON A POPSICLE STICK! Admit you misspoke. You meant to say “fellow Americans.” You meant to say, “ancestors.” You didn’t mean to say “Founding Fathers.” Mistakes happen. When you try to squirm and justify them, you sound like a moron! Have the balls and integrity to admit you misspoke, and move on. Period!

    The minimum wage thing… ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION. If you believe we should abolish the federal minimum wage, then SAY SO. Don’t hem, haw and then dodge the question! Have the guts to stand up and answer it!

    Is there bias in the media? Indubitably.

    Will they target conservatives? Absolutely.

    And conservatives should be ready for it – with coherent, intelligent answers. Not cute metaphors and anecdotes that play well to the drooling, adoring crowd, but with simple, clear facts. THAT’s how you counter that shit! By not giving them an entrance.

    We castigate Zero for his lack of experience. She’s not much better. A few years in Congress and not a single bill she sponsored has even seen serious consideration. She’s good at lobbing grenades, and she gives libtards headaches. For that, at least, I do respect her. But we need more than that in a president. And I’m sick and tired of superstars. I want someone with a solid plan and the ability to choose wise, experienced advisers. I don’t want someone who stirs up froth in a crowd, but has little more to offer.

    Just my 2 cents.

  43. 43
    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    @LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch:

    The difference between Palin and Bachman (I still PRAY that ticket will happen w/Ann Coulter as AG) and the rest of GOP dumbshits is that they actually believe in what they say and do. If they could find a spine on Mittens they’d get the NPP for Medicine. And unlike the Kenyon Klingon Fucker (I’m trademarking that) they have core beliefs that are sacrosanct and set them down a path that they don’t stray from which make them a deadly threat to the NDWSP. They got burned royally fucked by a “two-bit, B-grade actor whose a dunce” who had same core beliefs and they aren’t about to let that happen again. Do they say things that are ignorant? Yes, but who the hell doesn’t and when she’s wrong she admits it. Get a few drinks into me and I usually say something that gets the Fight Club started (and people wonder why I’ve been 86’ed twice from CC Restaurant).

    And if anybody doesn’t think that they consider her a threat then just watch the video of Mr. Snuffleupagus over at ABC not so vaguely threaten that the Limp Dick Media will go after her foster children.

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    LC Ogrrre growls and barks:

    Muzzy said:

    Not only will he be picked, but come election day you’ll be hauling your dumb ass down to the polling station to punch the ticket for him.

    Muzzy, you ignorant slut! No, I won’t vote for Mitt or any other RINO… not even if they choose God himself as his running mate. I will not vote socialist instead of communist. If the Republican Party wants my vote this time around, they’d damn well better give me a candidate I would be proud to vote for. No more lesser of two evils, because when you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.
    If Romney is the Republican nominee, I will vote for a third party candidate from the TEA party or endorsed by them.

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    @light –

    A lot of people believe what they say. Deep held beliefs are fine. I’m sure Zero just LUUUUUVS his Marxist ideology. But I want something more than screeching platitudes. I experienced the same frustration watching the NH debate. When asked for DETAILS about what they would do to repeal ObamaCare, they all confirmed how bad it was! JESUS, we fucking KNOW! Now give me some facts. What are your plans? How, exactly, will you go about repealing ObamaCare?

    Do they say things that are ignorant? Yes, but who the hell doesn’t and when she’s wrong she admits it.

    Yeah? When? When she tried to convince Stephanopoulous that John Quincy Adams was, in fact, a Founding Father when he wasn’t? Or when she dodged the shit out of the “Do you support repealing the minimum wage” question?

    And if anybody doesn’t think that they consider her a threat then just watch the video of Mr. Snuffleupagus over at ABC not so vaguely threaten that the Limp Dick Media will go after her foster children.

    I don’t think that was a threat. I think that was a fact. And it’s a horrible thing, but something she has to be ready for. The media isn’t going to stop being the media, and she needs to be prepared for being a target. Remember how they went after Palin’s kids?

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    FrankOK growls and barks:

    Reagrdless of who is run by the respective parties, we have to remember the “arrangment” by which corruption is kept alive and well within the government.

    Every 4 years, the president stands for election. Every 2 years, the House stands for election.

    The Senate, however, can only have 1/3 of its panderers replaced at any election, leaving 2/3 to carry on the corruption and explain to the new incomers (with many dreams about “saving” the country) how the cow eats the cabbage.

    The president seems to change after being “read” into office – invariably.

    There was a link to a story on here re: how Israel cleaned out our government and handed us back the keys – the problem was that, being fiction, there wasn’t a link to PayPal money to them and help out the cause.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    What are your plans? How, exactly, will you go about repealing ObamaCare?

    Because they all know that Obamacare can’t and won’t be repealed until if and when we have 1) the Presidency 2) a solid, conservative majority in the House and 3) 60+ majority in the Senate. I’d prefer at least 65 because Brown is from MA, the two twits from Maine and Little Johnny McCain who needs his tramp daughter tell him how to vote.

    When she tried to convince Stephanopoulous that John Quincy Adams was, in fact, a Founding Father when he wasn’t?

    Hell, I could have screwed that one up in a moment of stupid and I was a freak’in History Major. If we’re going to set the bar that high for our candidates then we better get use to getting our asses stomped like a narc at a biker rally. We have to look past the exterior and see what lies underneath to see the potential. It took me a long to realize that and it ain’t easy. My first year and half in the Marine Corps I was as fucked up as a football bat (don’t ever fail a CG inspection PFT, the consequences are very unpleasant, especially at the Depot). Ten years later the Commandant told me at my hail and farewell I was one best Marines he had the privilege of having work for him in his career. Why? Because I had great NCOs, SNCOs and Officers who looked past the exterior and saw what I even couldn’t…a good Marine waiting to come out.

    “Judge not, that ye be not judged” Matthew 7 ver 1

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    Because they all know that Obamacare can’t and won’t be repealed until if and when we have 1) the Presidency 2) a solid, conservative majority in the House and 3) 60+ majority in the Senate. I’d prefer at least 65 because Brown is from MA, the two twits from Maine and Little Johnny McCain who needs his tramp daughter tell him how to vote.

    So the proper answer, at least in my book, would have been just that. “We need solid conservative majorities in order to repeal this law. Here’s what we need instead…”

    Hell, I could have screwed that one up in a moment of stupid and I was a freak’in History Major. If we’re going to set the bar that high for our candidates then we better get use to getting our asses stomped like a narc at a biker rally. We have to look past the exterior and see what lies underneath to see the potential. It took me a long to realize that and it ain’t easy.

    The first time was a moment of stupid. The second time, where she tried to screw her way out of it with Stephanopo… however the fuck you spell his name was just conceit and stubbornness. He called her on it. She had to have known she misspoke before the interview ever took place. Why try to weasel your way out of it, instead of saying “You know what? I was wrong. I misspoke. Move on.” That’s what a person of integrity would do. A person who is starting to believe her own hype about her greatness would do what she did:

    “Uh… We’re a great country and we got rid of slavery.”

    Yeah, that’s nice. Now answer the question.

    Bachmann: Well you know what’s marvelous is that in this country and under our constitution, we have the ability when we recognize that something is wrong to change it. And that’s what we did in our country. We changed it. We no longer have slavery. That’s a good thing. And what our Constitution has done for our nation is to give us the basis of freedom unparalleled in the rest of the world.

    Stephanopoulos: I agree with that…

    Bachmann: That’s what people want…they realize our government is taking away our freedom.

    Stephanopoulos: But that’s not what you said. You said that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery.

    Bachmann: Well if you look at one of our Founding Fathers, John Quincy Adams, that’s absolutely true. He was a very young boy when he was with his father serving essentially as his father’s secretary. He tirelessly worked throughout his life to make sure that we did in fact one day eradicate slavery….

    Stephanopoulos: He wasn’t one of the Founding Fathers – he was a president, he was a Secretary of State, he was a member of Congress, you’re right he did work to end slavery decades later. But so you are standing by this comment that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery?

    Bachmann: Well, John Quincy Adams most certainly was a part of the Revolutionary War era. He was a young boy but he was actively involved.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    Nicki, the way I interpret this is that she did understand but just mucked it up while trying to enunciate it. You’ve been a PAO and you know thoughts don’t always match what is said. I sure she meant to say John Adams (he wasn’t present at the Continental Convention) was a Founder and that his son, John Quincy Adams, who was his unofficial secretary during the Continental Convention, therefore with the Founding Fathers in Philadelphia (he would have been 20 at the time). In addition both Adams labored throughout their lives to end slavery but, as with abortion today, it was divisive issue that wasn’t solved until April 1864 at Appomattox. Slavery was the 800 pound gorilla in the room and the Founders had to make compromises all the way around, hence the 3/5’s compromise that finally was agreed to but everyone loathed.

    And I’ll throw something else out. There is no real agreement on who were the Founding Fathers actually were. Many historians consider the Founders to not only the men who signed the Declaration of Independence (56) but also those who were at the Continental Convention (55) but only 39 delegates signed the Constitution. In addition John Adams signed the Declaration of Independence but not the Constitution (he was Minister to Great Britain at the time, hence his son being present but not as a delegate). Also Jefferson, Hancock and Samuel Adams did not attend and Patrick Henry refused. The original signers of the Declaration from Rhode Island George Read, Caesar Rodney and Thomas McKean did not sign the Constitution since RI refused to send delegates.

    And one other tidbit George Washington is considered a Founding Father but he didn’t sign the Declaration of Independence but was President of the Continental Convention and a signatory.

    In summation I think Bachman did a pretty damn good job.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    And I even made a mistake:

    Rhode Island George Read, Caesar Rodney and Thomas McKean did not sign the Constitution since RI refused to send delegates.

    They were from Delaware not Rhode Island and Read was the only original signer of the Declaration present. Also even tho Stephen Hopkins from RI signed the Declaration he died prior to the Convention in 1785.

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    @LC Light29ID – now you’re squirming FOR her. History confirms that although many of the Founders weren’t thrilled with slavery, they chose to pretty much tolerate it, albeit probably temporarily. In either case, that does not equate to the Founding Fathers having “fought tirelessly” to end slavery. No matter how you spin it, that’s JUST. NOT. TRUE.

    As a PAO, I understand that if you say it once, it’s a slip. It’s forgivable. Say you misspoke and move on. If you then go on a talk show and defend that same comment by squirming and spinning, that is not a misstatement. Instead of trying to defend her obviously erroneous statement, she chose to spin it, which made her look like a tool.

    John Q. Adams was the sixth POTUS. No matter HOW you spin it, not only was he not a Founding Father, he wasn’t in a position to really “fight tirelessly” against slavery until he entered into public service in the 1800s.

    She fucked up. Period. And instead of admitting it when confronted by Stephanopolous, she tried to weasel and spin out of it. As a PAO, to me that’s STOOPID.

    And the fact that she couldn’t or wouldn’t answer a fucking question directly pisses me off. He asked her a simple yes or no. Do you support repeal of the minimum wage. If she does (hell, *I do), she should have said YES. Instead, she avoided answering the question.

    I am sick and tired of politicians with no integrity. Completely sick and tired of them. Answer directly and correctly, stop weaseling, and you’ll do just fine with me.

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    And I even made a mistake

    Yes, and you immediately corrected yourself, instead of claiming that the delegates grew up in Rhode Island, and therefore your mistake was not really a mistake.

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    LC LOBO growls and barks:

    And shit like this is why I refuse to vote for either party. I mean after all, they’ve had 146 years of “running” this country. Right into the ground. People keep telling me that the next ________ (insert party name) will “SAVE AMERICA !!!!!!!!! Sorry, I don’t buy that bullshit. So just blindly vote for whomever the media tells you to. I’m voting for Ted Nugent.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    Nicki, these are the only horses we have in the race right now so we have to place our bets on which one will do the job best and my money is on Bachman (or Palin, please dear God Palin). Like it or not we have pick from who’s in the race or sit on our hands and let Obongo finish the job of turning us into the next Zimbabwe.

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    Nicki, these are the only horses we have in the race right now so we have to place our bets on which one will do the job best and my money is on Bachman (or Palin, please dear God Palin). Like it or not we have pick from who’s in the race or sit on our hands and let Obongo finish the job of turning us into the next Zimbabwe.

    As far as I’m concerned, that’s why we’re in the mess we’re in in the first place. I, for one, refuse to reward the GOP with my vote if I don’t like the candidate. I don’t think either she or Palin would make a good president, and it’s not because I disagree with their views. To me, it takes more than agreement on basic issues to reward someone with my vote. And it IS my vote, and I will not waste it on someone I feel isn’t qualified to be POTUS.

    @Lobo… Uncle Ted is as good as any. :em01:

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    And it IS my vote, and I will not waste it on someone I feel isn’t qualified to be POTUS.

    That is your right as an American and defend it until death…

    but please, for love of all that is Right and Holy consider the alternative, if he gets a another fours (and NDWSP will pull out all the stops) it will make the Civil War look like a Sunday afternoon quilting bee.

    Remember what Sheridan did to the Shenandoah Valley.

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    <I'll :em08:

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    At this point, the alternative is a BIG, GARGANTUAN ROCK FROM SPACE THAT WILL DECIMATE EVERYTHING. That’s what I want, because as it stands right now, I don’t see how we can save it.

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    Maybe it won’t be us that saves us Nicki,, sometimes we forget that the whole freakin’ world doesn’t hate our gutz,, like the left can’t stop telling us.
    I don’t always just plop down and get comfy just to access my e-mail or hit a news site or two in my moments between my domestic missions of the moment,, but my knees just buckled for this one,,’glad the milk crate was there to catch my stunned ass.
    We got friends that haven’t forgotten us, and we won’t forget them neither.
    Note: those don’t look like fake-o coathanger smiles on them uniformed Troopies.

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    @LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech :

    That’s beautiful. The Hungarians do love us. That I know. :em01:

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    LC Light29ID growls and barks:

    @LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech growls:

    uniformed Troopies

    Thank the Lord the Army Staff finally got rid of those butt ass ugly green Class “A” uniforms. The updated Cavalry look is 1000% improvement (but Marine Corps Dress Blues will still always steal the ladies :em07: )

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    I’m t’inking it’s the Blue Steel under the red piping, Light29ID