Calif. AG: Use ‘Good Moral Character’ Requirement to Skirt SCOTUS Ruling and Deny Concealed Carry Permits

On Friday, the day after the Supreme Court ruled it is unconstitutional for states, like California, to use a “proper cause” standard to deny concealed carry permits, California’s attorney general instructed attorneys and law enforcement to, instead, employ a “good moral character” requirement as justification for denying permits.

In a legal alert to “All California District Attorneys, Police Chiefs, Sheriffs, County Counsels, and City Attorneys,” California Attorney General Rob Bonta issued a legal alert providing “guidance” regarding another means of denying permits, in light of the Supreme Court ruling:

“[B]ecause the Court’s decision in Bruen does not affect the other statutory requirements governing public-carry licenses, issuing authorities must still require proof that (1) ‘the applicant is of good moral character.’”

What’s more, an applicant’s “character and temperament” can be used to determine “moral character” and deny a concealed carry permit, AG Bonta advises:

“[I]n assessing whether an applicant has established ‘good moral character,’ issuing authorities should recognize that Bruen does not eliminate the duty or authority of local officials to protect the communities that they know best by ensuring that licenses are only issued to individuals who—by virtue of their character and temperament—can be trusted to abide by the law and otherwise ensure the safety of themselves and others.”

Bonta advises that “Legal judgments of good moral character can include consideration of” a number of extremely subjective factors

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, such as:

“Honesty,
“Trustworthiness,
“Diligence,”
“Reliability,”
“Respect for the law,”
“Integrity,”
“Candor,”
“Discretion,”
“Observance of fiduciary duty,”
“Respect for the rights of others,”
“Absence of hatred and racism,”
“Fiscal stability,”
“Profession-specific criteria such as pledging to honor the constitution and uphold the law” and
“Absence of criminal conviction.”

Bonta also suggests monitoring an applicant’s social media accounts and requiring the applicant to provide “personal references and/or reference letters.”

[T]he AG’s office suggests that people who hold certain ideological viewpoints should be disqualified,” Gary T. Schwartz Distinguished Professor of Law at UCLA Eugene Volokh writes in an analysis of Bonta’s guidance published by Reason.

My take –
Constitutionality aside, by this standard, not a one of the dyed hair cadres of the DNC and D party would qualify to own or carry a handgun.

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LCAussie
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LCAussie
June 28, 2022 22:57

The caterwauling over Jan 6 continues and this is quite interesting The entire article is the usual Trump bashing ..until you read this about this so called ‘bombshell testimony”… https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/jawdropping-testimony-reveals-donald-trumps-alleged-behaviour-on-day-of-capitol-riot/news-story/d06bfd43138b7ba33411603d28a3f33b HOWEVER To be clear, Ms Hutchinson did not witness these events herself. In her testimony, she was relaying the story she had been told by Mr Ornato. Then why is… Read more »

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June 28, 2022 23:18
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Greta Thunberg

Hysteric

Panic monger

Fear porn artist

Bullshitter extreme

Climate horseshitter extraordinaire

Absolute, total, unashamed fucking hypocrite

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June 29, 2022 07:39
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Agreed

This is 2100% hearsay and not proveable or corroborated.

LCAussie
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June 29, 2022 08:23
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Oh and now the man Hutchison claims told her that story…is now going to testify under oath that he never told her that..so we have her repeating a hearsay story..and the Service, the driver and Ornato saying it’s total bullshit. Who to believe..a woman who is now a proven liar or the people who were actually there and say under… Read more »

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June 29, 2022 23:07
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https://babylonbee.com/news/jan-6-committee-says-cassidy-hutchinson-told-them-that-she-heard-mark-meadows-say-that-a-secret-service-agents-friends-cousins-husband-once-heard-that-one-of-trumps-other-aides-said-she-think WASHINGTON, D.C. – The walls are closing in on former President Trump. In an explosive bombshell unprecedented star witness testimony yesterday, Cassidy Hutchinson told everyone that she heard Mark Meadows say that a Secret Service agent’s friend’s cousin’s husband once heard that one of Trump’s other aides said she thinks she heard him say he wanted to “do an… Read more »

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June 30, 2022 00:21
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I wonder if Arkancide is in the works for any willing to testify ??

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July 3, 2022 13:06
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More likely for those that refuse to testify at this Stalinist show trial orchestrated by television producers, masquerading as a Congressional hearing.

DJ - Your Political Sock Puppet
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July 5, 2022 10:48
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Oh and now the man Hutchison claims told her that story…is now going to testify under oath that he never told her that..so we have her repeating a hearsay story..and the Service, the driver and Ornato saying it’s total bullshit. The best you have is an “unnamed source” saying that both Ornato and Engel dispute the claims of Hutchinson. As… Read more »

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July 5, 2022 10:33
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This is 2100% hearsay I’m guessing that math isn’t one of your stronger subjects… “percent” meaning out of 100. The correct usage would have been 100%. It is also clear that you do not know what “hearsay” is. If I am asking you about a conversation you had then that isn’t hearsay. Q: “Did you have a conversation with _____?”… Read more »

DJ - Your Political Sock Puppet
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June 30, 2022 14:18
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Bren asks an important question: Then why is this being trested as anything other than 3rd party hearsay? SIMPLE. Congress is not a court of law. The federal rules of evidence do not apply to congressional proceedings. They also never apply to investigations, which is what the committee says it is conducting. The point of an investigation is to search… Read more »

LCAussie
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July 2, 2022 03:08

LMFAO

Ornato, Engel and the Secret Service have already stated it never happened

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Peter Alexander

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https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f6a8.svg A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel.

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and overheard him telling staff to remove the security magnetometers (metal detectors) and allow armed supporters into the crowd.

Consistent with his firm support for the 2nd amendment and open carry. This is..news?

Oh btw, said woman is in even more deep shit

Damning Evidence Just Uncovered Shows Cassidy Hutchinson May Have Lied About Yet Another Major Issue

t was Cassidy who told the January 6th committee that Mr. Clark was at the White House “frequently,” strategizing with Giuliani and the Trump campaign to object to the election.

Oops….that was JUSTIN CLARK , not Jeff Clark.

She

Lied.

DJ - Your Political Sock Puppet
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July 2, 2022 11:16
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Bren laughs his fucking ass off, and then posts the funniest thing I’ve heard today: Ornato, Engel and the Secret Service have already stated it never happened You might want to go find some better reading glasses, because neither Oranto nor Engel have said or “stated” anything. Nothing. Zilch. What you are referring to is a tweet from NBC’s Peter… Read more »

DJ - Your Political Sock Puppet
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July 2, 2022 13:43
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Oops….that was JUSTIN CLARK , not Jeff Clark. Did you know there was also a JUSTIN Clark involved in all of this? Was JUSTIN Clark meeting Mark Meadows “frequently” as Hutchinson testified? Do you think she even knows who JEFF Clark is? The questioner — probably a lawyer, since the actual committee members almost never participate in the depositions. Do… Read more »

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July 4, 2022 18:06

Our lunatic left media has some stellar TDS infected “journalists” who are splashing this trainwreck all over the front page. In one sense it’s actually fun…Liz Cheney is literally a walking political corpse, as she is about to be primaried into oblivion. Tim Rice has already been binned, Kinzinger hasn’t got long before the voters turf him out…..ALL 12 of… Read more »

Guido
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June 30, 2022 00:23

California just gets more dumb by the minute. Oh, and shiftless too.
So glad I left there in 1988.

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July 5, 2022 16:35
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i remain, if for only being able to be a forward observer and adjust artillery when the shit hits the fan.

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June 30, 2022 13:23

Speaking of California: The California Department of Justice briefly published the home address information of every concealed carry permit holder in the state on Monday. Firearms policy publication The Reload surveyed the tool’s Los Angeles County data, finding that 244 permit holders were authorized to carry as judges. The database contained the home addresses of the judges, a potential security… Read more »

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July 1, 2022 20:14

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July 5, 2022 16:36

i remember a guy named BC who was a contrast in characters… he would burn down brush in FLA swampland, and at the same time post cute and sensitive photos of the lovely wildlife therein.. interesting guy! Handsome too, i understand.

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July 3, 2022 13:04

No independent observer could honestly claim that the California state politicians could pass muster on that list. THey have no business trying to make others jump that hurdle.

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July 3, 2022 14:25

Protecting the criminals: CA court official releases from jail two men arrested with enough fentanyl to kill millions TULARE COUNTY, CA – Two men have been released from a California jail just days after they were arrested with 150,000 fentanyl pills and the sheriff who put them behind bars is furious. Jose Zendejas, 25, and Benito Madrigal, 19, were arrested… Read more »

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July 5, 2022 16:37
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that smelled almost as if the Cartel called his local judge in a jurisdiction along I5 which they must use from CA to WA and called in a favor. Makes no sense, given the amounts of drugs involved.

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July 5, 2022 16:33

i miss the days of Fisking that Misha and 0311 used to engage in…sigh.

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July 6, 2022 00:02

People who worked with terrorist groups will now have an easier time entering the U.S. legally. Last week, the State and Homeland Security departments announced they had altered the Immigration and Nationality Act, a federal law, to grant entry into the U.S. and other “immigration benefits” to those who provided “limited” or “insignificant” material support to designated terrorist organizations. Examples… Read more »

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WHERE YOUR MONEY GOES: Thanks to a liberal Bill Clinton-appointed judge in Southern California and convoluted class-action litigation dating back to 1997 on behalf of illegals spearheaded by the American Civil Liberties Union, the feds created new rights and standards for illegal alien minor shelter care. Clinton immigration bureaucrats agreed to provide food, clothing, personal grooming items, medical and dental… Read more »

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July 7, 2022 23:45
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“On a number of occasions, the police felt it necessary to draw their weapons to defend themselves,” Rotterdam mayor Ahmed Aboutaleb told the Associated Press of Saturday’s violence. “They shot at protesters, people were injured. https://nypost.com/2021/11/20/police-fire-on-anti-lockdown-protesters-in-the-netherlands/ Pity you didnt include the facts. The Netherlands has its own issues and will decide for themselves. And to be bluntly fucking honest, US law enforcement… Read more »

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