Spite, venom, hatred. The “tolerant left”

Words cant describe the disgust and revulsion that followed this diatribe.

His daughter Ivanka also came into her line of fire. “She was supposed to be an advocate for women, but it turns out she’s about as helpful to women as an empty box of tampons. She’s done nothing to satisfy women. So I guess, like father like daughter.” The audience could be heard mumbling uncomfortably, to which she added: “Oh, you don’t think he’s good in bed. Come on!

“She does clean up nice, though. Ivanka cleans up nice. She’s the diaper genie of the administration. On the outside she looks sleek, but the inside, it’s still full of s**t.

The President chose not to attend. Cant say as I blame him.

Sick, twisted, revolting.


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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    You actually watched it?

  2. 2
    LCBren growls and barks:

    God no.

    Even BC would not take that job.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    LCBren says:

    God no.

    Even BC would not take that job.


    Why am I not surprised? You never bother to do your own thinking, you seem to want to rely on others to do it for you. It is evident in almost every argument you attempt.


    Here’s MY take on this — and I did watch the entire thing.

    MSNBC started with the Trump rally in Washington, Michigan. I watched the entire rally. Then they went into the White House Correspondence Dinner.

    Thankfully, I was able to fast-forward my DVR through the first forty minutes of boring awards and blah blah blah. The last twenty minutes was the actual roast — and usually the highlight of the dinner.

    What is a roast? (This is helpful, since apparently you don’t understand what a “roast” is)

    A roast is a form of American humor in which a specific individual, a guest of honor, is subjected to jokes at their expense, intended to amuse the event’s wider audience. Such events are intended to honor a specific individual in a unique way. In addition to jokes and insult comedy, such events may also involve genuine praise and tributes. The implication is that the roastee is able to take the jokes in good humor and not as serious criticism or insult, and it is seen by some as a great honor to be roasted. The individual is surrounded by friends, fans, and well-wishers, who can receive some of the same treatment as well during the course of the evening. The party and presentation itself are both referred to as a “roast”. The host of the event is called the “roastmaster”. Anyone who is mocked in such a way is said to have been “roasted”.

    That’s how it is SUPPOSED to go.

    Historically, we elect presidents who have the capacity to laugh at themselves. Even Richard Nixon was able to participate in these roasts — and he had Watergate and a war in Vietnam going on. But Donald Trump is incapable of even the idea of people laughing at his expense, so he purposely will stay away from these kinds of events. Instead, he held a rally where HE could control the applause lines.

    Whatever works for him.

    The point is, the roast is supposed to be ‘insultive’ — to an extent. The problem is, that it can easily get out of hand — and I think it did that night.

    Sarah Sanders got the brunt of the roast — because she was set up for it. Fairly or unfairly, she was representing the Administration because Trump refused to be there. I’m not excusing it, I’m just pointing out the facts, like them or not.

    But what we got in this roast was indicative of the political landscape created by this president. The polarization has become even starker under this president.

    While you are fake-whining about a monologue you’ve admitted you didn’t bother to watch, you completely ignored many of the similar comments that Trump said only a few moments before in his rally. In fact, I found his subsequent tweets about Michelle Wolf’s comments to be ironic, considering some of the bullshit that fell out of his neck that night.

    Had you bothered to watch her monologue, you might have noticed she attacked all sorts of people. Here are a couple of MY favorites:


    “Now, there is a lot to cover tonight. There’s a lot to go over. I can’t get to everything. I know there’s a lot of people that want me to talk about Russia and Putin and collusion, but I’m not going to do that because there’s also a lot of liberal media here. And I’ve never really wanted to know what any of you look like when you orgasm.”


    “It is kind of crazy that the Trump campaign was in contact with Russia when the Hillary campaign wasn’t even in contact with Michigan. It’s a direct flight; it’s so close.”


    “We’ve got our friends at CNN here. Welcome, guys, it’s great to have you. You guys love breaking news, and you did it. You broke it. Good work.

    The most useful information on CNN is when Anthony Bourdain tells me where to eat noodles.”


    “Fox News is here. So, you know what that means, ladies: Cover your drinks. Seriously.

    People want me to make fun of Sean Hannity tonight, but I cannot do that; this dinner is for journalists.”


    “We’ve got MSNBC here. MSNBC’s news slogan is, “This is who we are.” Guys, it’s not a good slogan. “This is who we are” is what your mom thinks the sad show on NBC is called. “Did you watch ‘This Is Who We Are’ this week? Someone left on a Crockpot, and everyone died.”


    “I watch “Morning Joe” every morning. We now know that Mika and Joe are engaged. Congratulations, you guys. It’s like when a Me Too works out.”


    “We also have Rachel Maddow. We cannot forget about Rachel Maddow. She is the Peter Pan of MSNBC. But instead of never growing up, she never gets to the point. Watching Rachel Maddow is like going to Target. You went in for milk, but you left with shampoo, candles and the entire history of the Byzantine Empire. “I didn’t need this.”

    (This is funny to me, because I watch Rachel on a daily basis, and it’s true — she will spend a half hour to explain something that would take the ordinary person three minutes)


    “And, of course, Megyn Kelly. What would I do without Megyn Kelly? You know, probably be more proud of women.

    Megyn Kelly got paid $23 million by NBC, then NBC didn’t let Megyn go to the Winter Olympics. Why not? She’s so white, cold and expensive, she might as well be the Winter Olympics.

    And, by the way, Megyn, Santa’s black. The weird old guy going through your chimney was Bill O’Reilly. You might want to put a flue on it or something.”


    There’s a ton of news right now; a lot is going on, and we have all these 24-hour news networks, and we could be covering everything. But, instead, we’re covering like three topics. Every hour, it’s Trump, Russia, Hillary and a panel of four people who remind you why you don’t go home for Thanksgiving.

    “Milk comes from nuts now, all ’cause of the gays.”

    You guys are obsessed with Trump. Did you used to date him? Because you pretend like you hate him, but I think you love him. I think what no one in this room wants to admit is that Trump has helped all of you. He couldn’t sell steaks or vodka or water or college or ties or Eric, but he has helped you.

    He’s helped you sell your papers and your books and your TV. You helped create this monster, and now you’re profiting off of him. And if you’re gonna profit off of Trump, you should at least give him some money because he doesn’t have any.


    Here’s a better way to look at it:

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    LCBren growls and barks:

    s’funny you post that pic – straight off Twatter btw..since thats Milo’s line. :em07:

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    I for one am pleased to have the D party and their slobbering captive news media keep on doing this, and more and louder. More and more of America is seeing them for what they are, unreformed megalomaniac Marxists. 2018 may not turn out exactly like they think it will, eh?

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    Terrapod growls and barks:


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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    I for one want the D party and their lapdog press keep on doing what they are doing, more of it and louder. More and more citizens are waking up to the fact that the D party represents virulent Marxist dictatorship.

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    LC Mike in Chi growls and barks:

    Well, that brought out the Deej. His timing is not exactly cutting edge or swift. No atomic clock comparison there, for sure. More like a sundial you made with a stick in the dirt, and you have to keep propping it up ’cause you stuck it in a mud puddle. Besides, it’s raining and there isn’t any shadows.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    LCBren says:

    s’funny you post that pic – straight off Twatter btw..since thats Milo’s line. :em07:

    It might have appeared on thousands of Twitter accounts, but that isn’t where I got it. I posted it to give you an idea of what was going on at exactly the same time as the dinner, in case you were hoping for the “high road” here.

    Because the Right was down in the gutter along with the Left that night.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Oh, and I was a bit wrong in my first comment above. Nixon skipped the WHCD in 1970, 1972 and 1974.

    Carter skipped it in 1978 and 1980, and Reagan skipped it in 1981. Reagan had an excuse though: he was in the hospital recovering from an assassination attempt, but he did call in.

    LC Mike in Chi says:

    Well, that brought out the Deej. His timing is not exactly cutting edge or swift.

    I wasn’t going to comment at all, but LC Bren challenged me to comment with something he said on The Bark.

    I’m not sure exactly where my “timing” plays into any of this. I was responding to a post with the headline:

    Spite, venom, hatred. The “tolerant left”

    I found this post to be IRONIC, considering the fact that President Trump chose to skip the dinner in order for him to “be with my favorite deplorables” at a rally in Michigan. Given the fact that Trump spent 90 minutes in his usual unfiltered ranting and name-calling.

    (Y’all probably should clean up your own back yard before you start complaining about someone else’s yard.)

    I’ve gotten to the point where people on BOTH edges of the political spectrum need to STFU and go away. We have become too polarized and the middle ground is falling out from underneath us.

    I’m not going to take a side here, because neither side is in the right. Michelle Wolf’s roast was just as ‘deplorable’ as Trump’s rally. One does NOT excuse the other. I’m condemning BOTH.

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Thank you, Sir! :em01:

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    I think this cartoon pretty much sums up this whole kerfuffle:

    Basically, those in glass houses…

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    LCBren growls and barks:

    Um Deej…the Pocahontas thing isnt just him, remember?

    . Warren is nicknamed “Fauxcahontas” because she lied about being Native American.

    In one of the most bizarre, dragged-out lies of any politician, Warren checked the “Native American” box on her applications to University of Pennsylvania and Harvard University, seemingly to receive a leg up. (She received both jobs, by the way.) There has been no proof to substantiate Warren’s claim that she is “part Delaware” and “part Cherokee.”

    But it gets better: The woman, clearly reveling in delusion, contributed to a cookbook called “Pow Wow Chow” and signed it “Elizabeth Warren—Cherokee”

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    Warren is now rightfully nicknamed “Fauxcahontas.”

    Crooked Hillary? She is crooked.

    Lock her up? Definitely.

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    RDM growls and barks:

    I’m sorry DJ but bovine fecal matter. The left does this every. Single. Election. Every. Single. Time. Trying to say “Trump caused this” because for one effing election someone dares talk back to the puerile, insulting, viscious left is a theatre of absurdity. I don’t see how you can even get the notion out of your mouth without hanging your head in shame at the hypocrisy.

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    RDM growls and barks:

    You are making a fake equivalency then condemning ‘both’ because it allows you to pretend the problem is equal rather than mostly on the left.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    LCBren says:

    Um Deej…the Pocahontas thing isnt just him, remember?

    It is ALL him. Nobody else is going around calling other people out of their names like this. This is something you’d expect out of a fucking TWELVE-YEAR-OLD, not a seventy-year-old man, let alone the President of the United States of America.

    And let’s talk about Elizabeth Warren’s claim, shall we?

    Her claim is based on what her parents told her growing up. Parents tell their kids all sorts of things that don’t always pan out. I remember as a kid, my grandmother telling me that I could trace my roots back to Ethan Allen. She even had a story about how Ethan Allen changed the spelling of “Allyn” to “Allen”.

    Surprise! It wasn’t true. But I went through my early adult years thinking it was — until we learned that it wasn’t.

    The point is, families tell themselves all sorts of stories that were false from the beginning or were enhanced over the years to the point where they simply weren’t true any more.

    Saying that Warren ‘lied’ about all of this is presuming ‘facts’ not in evidence. It is your OPINION that she is lying about her heritage, you have NO PROOF one way or the other. The fact that you are willing to believe one thing over the other only shows that you are basing your opinion on what ‘team’ she is on, and not any actual facts.

    Be honest here.

    LCBren says:

    Crooked Hillary? She is crooked.

    Lock her up? Definitely.

    For what? Don’t you think there should be an investigation where actual evidence of a crime is discovered first? Oh wait, they not only had endless hearings in Congress where they couldn’t come up with anything, but there was an actual FBI investigation where it was determined that yes, she did use a private server for official emails, but could not determine this silly little thing required in every federal crime:


    This is the thing that legal neophytes like you fail to understand: One of the basic elements to charge someone with a federal crime is the element called “criminal intent”

    There is a reason why Mueller wants to interview Donald Trump. He’s looking for criminal intent. Without it, he can’t prove the main charge hanging over Trump’s head at the moment. The government has to prove Trump’s criminal intent on obstructing justice. They could probably do that without talking to Trump, but it makes it harder.

    But absent the intent, there will be no charges. That’s how this all works.

    They couldn’t prove intent on Hillary, hence the reason why she was never charged with a crime. It is as simple as that.

    But we are getting into the weeds here. This isn’t about Hillary or crimes or any of that. This is simply about civility, decorum, and social normalcy.

    It’s about what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

    Trump started his political ‘career’ making up lies about Obama’s birth certificate. He went on from there calling people names and talking long shit about them. But the name-calling and general assholery started long before that. I lived in NYC back in the early 1980s. I was more than familiar with The Donald in the tabloids way back then. He has always been an asshole, it’s just now it’s on the global stage.

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    RDM growls and barks:

    Except what she was accused of explicitly requires NO CRIMINAL INTENT. So there is that.

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Read this….easy to understand how it works. Has been making the rounds the last 2 days.

    “Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories.” – Thomas Jefferson


    A 39 second Must Read. Advance permission to pass on.

    In their infinite wisdom, the United States’ Founders created the Electoral College to ensure the STATES were fairly represented. Why should one or two densely populated areas speak for the whole of the nation?

    The following list of statistics has been making the rounds on the Internet. It should finally put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College makes sense.

    Do share this. It needs to be widely known and understood.

    There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

    Trump won 3,084 of them.

    Clinton won 57.

    There are 62 counties in New York State.

    Trump won 46 of them.

    Clinton won 16.

    Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes.

    In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens)

    Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond)

    Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.
    These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.

    The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles.

    When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.

    Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.) DO NOT and SHOULD NOT speak for the rest of our country!

    And…it’s been verified and documented that those aforementioned 319 square miles are where the majority of our nation’s problems foment.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    RDM says:

    Except what she was accused of explicitly requires NO CRIMINAL INTENT. So there is that.

    This is where you show your ignorance of the law. In criminal law, intent is one of three general classes of mens rea necessary to constitute a conventional, as opposed to strict liability, crime. A more formal, generally synonymous legal term is scienter: intent or knowledge of wrongdoing.

    “Intent” is required in order to bring charges in a federal matter. Not so much in state or local jurisdictions, but mandatory in federal court.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Terrapod @ #19:

    Amazingly, you gave the perfect argument for doing away with the Electoral College and simply going with the popular vote.

    Here’s the thing: yes, Trump won so many counties compared to those that Clinton won. But you are mainly talking about empty land, not people.

    Most of the people in this country are located on the coasts of this country, in large heavily populated metropolitan cites.

    Clinton received over three million more votes than Trump did. So when you say something like:

    Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.) DO NOT and SHOULD NOT speak for the rest of our country!

    it means you are talking about territorial size and not population size.

    You still can’t get over the idea that more people in this country voted AGAINST Trump than voted FOR him.

    If you REALLY want to break this down. Trump only won the election by winning three states that Clinton either ignored or took for granted. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Total margin of victory in those three states?

    78,000 votes.

    I said it at the time, and I will continue to say it: Clinton was a terrible candidate. I don’t consider her a bad person per se, but she had waaaaaay too much baggage, and she was a lightening rod for Right wing attacks. That, and she didn’t know HOW to campaign.

    If she had won, we’d be talking about the endless investigations looking into everything Hillary. Instead, we are talking about Trump’s bullshit. It’s kinda where we are at as a nation at the moment.

    The bottom line is that regardless of who had won in 2016, we’d still be as polarized as we are right now. The only difference is that right now we have an actual criminal in the White House instead of pretending there was a criminal there with Hillary.

    Either way, we were screwed.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    The only difference is that right now we have an actual criminal in the White House

    Judge Allyn has found that elusive criminal intent! :em03:

    He will next argue before himself & lay out his case.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    LC Xystus says:

    Judge Allyn has found that elusive criminal intent! :em03:

    I did?

    And to think, I wasn’t even looking.

    All of this is mental masturbation. The kart before the horse and all of that.

    Trump’s biggest problem isn’t ‘collusion’ with a foreign power or conspiracy to commit a crime, it is his active attempt to try and shut down the investigation that has the potential of getting his fat ass in trouble.

    If the man would just sit down, shut up, and let the investigation look into what its original scope is, then maybe we can get somewhere. That doesn’t mean that Trump’s campaign isn’t under close scrutiny — it most certainly is, and its former campaign manager is the one on the roasting hot seat.

    Trump’s crime is trying to interfere in an active investigation. It is also the one that has his legal team all up in arms.

    It is also the reason why the White House leaked out the 49 supposed questions that the Special Counsel wants to ask Trump.

    HINT: those question did NOT come from the Special Counsel, they were written by Jay Sekulow, Trump’s lead attorney on the Russia investigation. Since the NYT said they received the questions from outside Trump’s legal team, the only other buffoon who had access to those questions in that format was … wait for it … either Donald Trump himself or his former lead attorney, John Dowd.

    Why would Dowd leak these questions? SIMPLE. He doesn’t want Trump to sit down for an interview. The only way he can impress this on Trump is to make these questions public. (If you want to get Trump’s attention, get it on TV)

    Frankly, if I were Trump’s attorney, I would be ADAMANT about him NOT SPEAKING TO THE SPECIAL COUNSEL. There is no way that Trump can get through that kind of interview without lying. Just one lie is all it takes.

    A §1001 is the most common federal felony that gets charged in federal court. It is also the easiest to get a conviction on, and the hardest to defend. I would advise anyone who finds themselves as either a target or a subject not to sit down for an interview. (I have personal experience here)

    The downside is that if they really want to talk to you, all they have to do is subpoena you to appear before a Federal Grand Jury. If that happens, you’ve lost the chance to have your attorney in there to run interference. Your only out would be to plead the Fifth, but that comes with its own set of problems.

    In a civil case, pleading the Fifth usually will mean that you’ve lost your case. Taking the fifth in a civil case CAN be construed as admitting guilt, whereas in a criminal case, your right to not be forced to incriminate yourself is adhered to because you stand the chance to lose your life of freedom.

    But as Trump pointed out many times in his campaign, “only guilty people take the fifth”

    “The mob takes the Fifth,” Trump said after Hillary Clinton aides invoked their right against self-incrimination. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

    He added at his first debate with Clinton that pleading the Fifth is “disgraceful.”



    There will never be criminal charges against Donald J. Trump Sr.

    The standing DOJ position is that a sitting president can’t be indicted. The only way a case can go forward is to bring impeachment proceedings in the House and to hold a trial in the Senate. IF, after 66 members in the Senate vote to remove Trump from office, then the DOJ might (and I mean, MIGHT) bring charges.

    Which brings us to the likelihood of Trump being A) impeached, and B) removed from office.

    There is a FAIR chance that Trump will be impeached in the House. There is a better chance of an asteroid landing smack dab on top of your house than there is of getting 66 Senators to vote to remove Trump.

    I just don’t see it happening. PERIOD.

    That doesn’t mean that the American people won’t elect a Democratic majority in at least the House, if not the Senate this coming November. Even in “normal” times people want there to be a check and balance on the presidency.

    I do expect to see Trump junior and Jared get hit with charges. I also expect that Michael Cohen will to a lot of talking.

    I also don’t see Trump running for re-election.

    There, those are my predictions.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Trump’s biggest problem isn’t ‘collusion’ with a foreign power or conspiracy to commit a crime, it is his active attempt to try and shut down the investigation

    Doesn’t look like much of an active attempt to me. :em04:

    Oh, and that dopey cartoon tries to compare the Wolf episode (Headline: “Comedian Makes Jokes” :em05: ) with every naughty thing Trumpty-Dumpty’s said–real or alleged–in the past ten years. Doesn’t work.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    LC Xystus says:

    Oh, and that dopey cartoon tries to compare the Wolf episode (Headline: “Comedian Makes Jokes” ) with every naughty thing Trumpty-Dumpty’s said–real or alleged–in the past ten years. Doesn’t work.

    Really? Because with the exception of his 2005 “grab ’em by the pussy” remark (which is laughable if you consider this to be ‘alledged’) this is everything he said while on the campaign trail — in the past twenty months.

    And these just scratch the surface of what he says and tweets on an almost daily basis. The man is vulgar to begin with, so if any of you are clutching your pearls over something a late night comedian has said, then you really have some issues to work out. :em02:

    LC Xystus says:

    Doesn’t look like much of an active attempt to me. :em04:

    Probably because you aren’t paying attention.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    D(a) J(udge) Allyn rules:

    The man is vulgar to begin with, so if any of you are clutching your pearls over something a late night comedian has said…

    In case you hadn’t noticed, vulgarity is one of this blog’s distinguishing features! :em05:

    LC Xystus says:

    Doesn’t look like much of an active attempt to me. :em04:

    Probably because you aren’t paying attention.

    Paying attention to what? The warnings from Congress about firing Müller despite Trump’s disinclination to do so?

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    LC Mike in Chi growls and barks:

    Holy crap Deej, you really do go on and on.DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    I’m not sure exactly where my “timing” plays into any of this.

    I say there, you blatant audiophile, timing is everything, as a dyed in the wool deplorable, I am proud of my criminal president. Taunt the sissies, commies and discontents into bad decisions and self destruction. He is my man.
    Oh, and the timing thing:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    I also don’t see Trump running for re-election.

    There, those are my predictions.

    Didn’t see him winning, either.
    Stick in the mud, raining, trying to tell me the time of day and what to expect.
    So, looking through a glass darkly in the rain, covered in muddied diatribe, is all you got.
    To clear up any possible semantics…I mean this:

    Words Related to diatribe:
    assault, attack, broadside, invective, lambasting, lashing, tongue-lashing, vituperation,
    berating, chewing out, rebuke, reprimand, reproach, reproof,
    abuse, castigation, censure, condemnation, denunciation,
    excoriation, execration, revilement,
    admonishment, admonition, lecture, sermon.

    This, is how I hear you.

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    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    This is how I hear you

    This is how I see you:

    Isn’t this fun?

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    Tpod growls and barks:

    First DJ selfie ever posted? Meh!

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    LC Mike in Chi growls and barks:

    Ya’ll can see me better if ya’ quit jiggiting all ’bout there, Deej.

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    LC Mike in Chi growls and barks: