You Have GOT To Be Kidding Us!
EUnuchistan descends further and further into dhimmitude and insanity.
Angela Merkel, the Chancellor of Germany, is now finding herself in hot water, well probably not all that hot since the plaintiff is certifiably insane but still, because she had the nerve to suggest that she was glad that a mass-murdering monster was dead:
Schadenfreude, the enjoyment of others’ suffering, may be a famously German concept, but it is apparently not a feeling that many Germans aspire to. The political and public fallout following Chancellor Angela Merkel’s statement on Monday that she was “glad” Osama bin Laden had been killed was among the most hotly debated topics in the German media this week.
Politicians, including those within her own center-right coalition, said that no death was cause for celebration, and reproved the remark as un-Christian and vengeful.
As far as we can recall, most Germans were quite happy when they learned in 1945 that Adolf Hitler was dead and that the end to his reign of insanity finally appeared to be at an end, but apparently they were all “un-Christian and vengeful” too, according to the current breed of nutless Germans. How far a once proud nation has fallen.
But Hamburg judge Heinz Uthmann went even further. He alleges that the chancellor’s statement was nothing short of illegal, and filed a criminal complaint against Merkel midweek, the daily Hamburger Morgenpost reported Friday.
“I am a law-abiding citizen and as a judge, sworn to justice and law,” the 54-year-old told the paper, adding that Merkel’s words were “tacky and undignified.”
In his two-page document, Uthmann, a judge for 21 years, cites section 140 of the German Criminal Code, which forbids the “rewarding and approving” of crimes. In this case, Merkel endorsed a “homicide,” Uthmann claimed. The violation is punishable by up to three years’ imprisonment or a fine.
Good luck with getting the death of a terrorist who, by definition, is outside of any and all protections of the Geneva Conventions and the Laws of Warfare classified as a “homicide”, but what’s more disturbing is this:
While the judge’s reaction may seem extreme, his sentiments are apparently shared by 64 percent of the German population. That was the proportion of Germans who said bin Laden’s death was “no reason to rejoice” in a poll published by broadcaster ARD on Friday.
There’s no reason to rejoice when the murderer of 3,000 innocents is finally popped in the head himself? Really, now? Then what, pray tell, exactly is a reason to rejoice in today’s obviously neutered Germany?
What the everloving fuck happened to Germany?
Should we, perhaps, instead sit down in a prayer circle and bemoan the fact that poor Osama’s actions had led to his untimely demise? That poor, misunderstood child whose upbringing obviously led him to make a series of unfortunate choices through no fault of his own?
It seems to me that we may have gone a bit overboard in our “de-Nazification” of Germany after WWII and, instead of having produced a nation of responsible individuals with a strong sense of right and wrong, ended up creating a bad parody of the French.
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Judge Uthmann is missing a couple apples in his strudel. Any taking of a human life by another is a “homicide”, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a crime. Chancellor Merkel endorsed a “justifiable homicide”… and so do I. Most enthusiastically.
Heinz Uthmann puts a twist on Germany’s “Land der Richter und Henker” putdown. So he’s gonna charge Merkel with “tacky & undignified” speech? I find him guilty of gerichtlicher Arschlochigkeit!
Well, I know my Brothers in the Bundeswehr and Fallschirmjäger are happy!!
And, yes, I DO have my Fallschirmjäger wings!!! Now…Ich mochte noch einmal Martini haben!!!
And FYI…
I’m with Chancellor Merkel on this one.
I’m GLAD that the goat-f**king P.O.S. known as Osama Bin Laden is DEAD!
Ok “Herr Uthmann”, bring it on!
Er, wait a minute….
If he’s charging people for saying things that are “tacky and undignified”, I’m screwed!
With my history, they’ll lock me up and throw away the key!
Better send lawyers, guns and money!
Unfortunately Uthman’s comments sound much like those from the majority of people I come in contact with. For one reason or other they felt it necessary to show their disgust for the distasteful celebrating by quoting Mark Twain and Martin Luther King..all of the same quotes of course ’cause it’s like mass distributed to these people or something… as if it somehow makes them the higher life form to say condescendingly that they will not rejoice in the murder of another human being. blah blah blech. Hello?! He was a murdering lunatic, why shouldn’t you be glad, or in the least relieved, that he succumbed to the same fate inflicted on thousands of others by his command?? Especially when 3000+ of those were your own country men and women! He got exactly what he deserved. As for the un-Christian and vengeful bit, there is nothing against killing a killer of innocents anywhere in the Bible, and if his death gives those he murdered some justice then I’m all for it. I highly doubt he was anywhere near repentance, anyway. We just sent him to God all the sooner. So be it.
Misha, my liege. Let me take this opportunity to make a few comments being that this is about my land and people.
First of all, it is good that has been Laden is finally dead. If this had been a German operation and if I had had the great honor to be part of it (highly unlikely as I have never served with Kommando Spezialkräfte), I would have pulled the trigger myself. Simply because it was the right thing to do.
Why ? Simple: He was the leader of a deliberate attack on the US, our friend and ally. This was an act of war (even declared as such by himself) and a war crime by its very nature. The situation being that he had no protection under the Laws of Warfare, the only correct outcome is a summary court martial and summary execution. End of story.
Secondly, I am glad that Osama is dead. Why ? Simple: Not because I enjoy killing or the thought of dead enemies. But because there simply was no other way. This man was a sworn enemy of our whole civilization and everything we stand for. We will not be able to kill his idea and ideology if we do not first kill the man himself.
Thirdly, you had the right idea when saying:
This is the surface of the problem. Digging deeper, the problem is that the underlying reason for the rise of Nazism was never analyzed and addressed. It wasn’t that ze Germans have a special inclination towards violence or totalitarianism, these are never far away in any society. It was that we -like other nations as well- have a larger than usual inclination towards collectivism and socialism !
Nazism was simply a particularly nationalistic flavor of socialism. Think soviet elements (police state, prosecution of religion, liquidation of political opponents, dirigiste economy) with Prussian nationalism and crude 19th century racial idiocy).
De-nazification simply purged this particular brand of socialism from our society. It was probably the most successful re-education of a people in western society. But it failed to purge with similar zeal the real underlying ideology, the one idea that made it all possible: the idea that the individual must subordinate his interests to the proclaimed interest of the collective and that the state is the tool by which a ‘greater good’ can be achieved that benefits said collective.
This dangerous nonsense was never addressed and still prevails in German society. This is why there is no member of the media caste who strongly opposes this idiot if a judge.
Currently air superiority over our moral interpretation of reality belongs to a class of socialists and social democrats with a strong adherence to the substitute religion of Ecological Preservationism. This group occupies influential positions in politics, justice, media and social groups. They see Jihadism as a welcome ally to overcome the nation state and our model of society. Although the thought that they will be first ones to be beheaded when their bed sheet wearing supposed allies are finally in power, does not occur to them. But that doesn’t keep them from attacking perceived enemies of Jihadism with all weapons at their disposal which is exactly what Heinz Uthmann did.
I hope that goes a small way towards making some sense of the current situation from across the pond.
So, do you think that Judge Mond Fledermaus (German for Moon Bat) will try to order the arrest of Obama and the SEAL’s who put two in Bin Laden’s turban?
Perhaps my family should pay Germany a visit again and have another party. The last time a member of my family partied in Germany it got a bit out of hand. Of course my father brought along a few close friends, namely the 3rd Army and it was 1945.
The pussification of the west continues. There is some of this going on here as well though not as bad…yet.
Good vs evil. It’s a simple concept really. Perhaps too simple for the intelligentsia to recognize.
This is exactly why I balk at calling myself a conservative and prefer the name federalist. We need to reduce our military spending as much as we need to reduce every other area of government, but when I say that, the best response I get is a bunch of crickets chirruping. But we can accomplish the goal of reduction in large part by withdrawing our troops from Europe. To hell with the idea that they share our culture, heritage, and ancestry. Anymore, that’s all the hell they share. Time to get the shit out of there and leave these asshats to their fate. Good riddance to them.
Germany is still suffering societal WWII guilt, and they overreact in instances such as this.
Had it been THEIR country which had been attacked, and 3,000 of their people who had died, their reaction might be vastly different.
The liberals kept telling us that Ogabe was much loved all over Europe…more than all the other presidents combined. Shoot, more than anyone one in the whole of HISTORY. Guess they aren’t so in love with him now, eh?
Response to ThePaganTemple @:
Let’s differentiate between military spending (defense) and defense-related spending that has nothing to do with the department of defense!
We are a big country, and we need a big military.
The US spends 4.91 percent of its GDP on national defense. (by NATO definition)
Comparatively, non-US NATO defense burden is 1.5 percent of GDP
Only 4 nations currently meet the NATO benchmark defense burden of 2 percent of GDP:
• US
• UK
• Greece (due to its huge GDP contraction)
• Albania (due to its very small GDP)
The defense budget comprises around 20 percent of the US federal budget
The defense budget includes:
• Personnel (military and civilian)
• Pensions (technically funded by Treasury, but included in the NATO definition of defense spending)
• Operations and Maintenance
• Procurement
• National military construction
• NATO common infrastructure
• Research and development
We also spend money on intelligence, which is considered defense spending, but that figure is classified (and insufficient).
There is defense-related spending, but that is not money that is allocated to the Department of Defense
The nation-building funds for Afghanistan, such as roads and other infrastructure do not come from the defense budget. They come from USAID
That is not to say that there isn’t money to be saved within the defense department. For instance: the F-35 engine and the C-17s – another program the Pentagon does not want, but we spend billions on acquiring and even more on maintaining.
BOTTOM LINE:
There are savings to be had in defense. However, what most politicians and people who just don’t know any better advocate – a straight cut to DoD spending will DECIMATE our military at a time when we need it most. Cuts need to be intelligent: extraneous equipment, personnel, etc. Personnel costs generally comprise the largest portion of the defense budget, with procurement second. Military bases in Europe are already being closed and forces realigned. We can certainly look at defense-related spending, such as the State Department’s budget, which is responsible for the nation-building discussed in interviews and other expenses in Afghanistan, and funding for USAID, but I shudder when I hear people rail on defense spending! We’ve got troops using old, substandard equipment, and living in shitty, borderline condemned housing while bureaucrats at the Pentagon hire directors of random offices to deal with environmental community relations issues at six figures!
Not while I’m alive.
I’ve met too many good ones,, and more than a few GREAT ones from Europe. They’ve seen everything happening,, many are old enough to recognize the patterns,, they are not without memory, logic, or sense of “genug, genug ist” .
Many feel the same as many Americans do when an impudent detractor demands “What do YOU have to be proud of?”
They/we must decide if we’re ready to engage in another futile trip through fantasy,,as opposed to history,, and instead,, another beer would be the rational option.. It makes suppressing the urge to rub noses bloody into the facts a tad easier.
Good riddance to abandoning real allies any more..
For that matter,, where IS Churchill’s bust these days?
When it’s returned to it’s place of honor, we’ll know we’ve turned an important corner..
Panzerman,, my buddies,, your buddies,, should meet each other.
Response to LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech @:
Sorry, we just can’t afford to babysit the assholes anymore. Why should we spend so much of OUR money to protect these bastards from themselves? They are their own worst enemies.
Y’know,, I hope Angela take’s this opportunity to turn the kitchen lights on them cockroaches,, otherwise, she might’ve been better off with just another beer.
With all respect to Nicki, et. al, PT has a point. Our troops could be put to better use elsewhere.
See, we have this strip of land down south of Empire HQ…
ThePaganTemple says:
Because they are NOT all of the mind you describe.
There’s a lot worth saving, and in the coming battles, turning our backs on them could only be regarded as ANOTHER reason to abandon us,,as our present pRezident has given them many good reasons to kick us out,, but as yet, they have not. Finding the real culprits has occupied many of their minds,, more are speaking out, and I’m encouraged enough to keep listening.
Hey, it’s not like we’re asking for the return of the 2nd SS Panzer Division (although some of their espirit de corps might be useful in northern Afghanistan, where the Bundeswehr troops now serving there have reportedly done little but drink beer), just a recognition (and maybe just a bit of gratitude) that a festering carbuncle on the ass of civilized society has been excised. Not that I expect some robed nitwit to grasp that. At least Angela does.
Response to Darth Venomous @:
Not saying I disagree with the babysitting assholes part, but we need to be out there to kick terrorist ass, which is an actual threat to our national security. If not, I suggest nuking that entire part of the world. I’m not married to the idea of keeping them alive in any way.
Terrorism still exists. Al Qaida is still a threat.
You have to remember that al Qaida is a very decentralized group of terrorists. While bin Ladin and al Zawahiri are top echelon, so to speak, most groups that associate themselves with AQ have never met bin Ladin or any of the higher ups in the command structure. Indeed, there IS no command structure. They are scattered all over the world, and bin Ladin was their psychological and emotional rallying point – their leader, for all intents and purposes, but not one they have met, nor one who keeps control over his troops. You will see references to AQIM (al Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb), AQAP (al Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula) and others who associate themselves with al Qaida. There are al Qaida cells all over the world – mainly in places that are considered “ungoverned spaces,” where national governments don’t go, have no control, and are too weak to exert influence. These are places like Yemen, Kashmir, Iraq, all over Africa, etc. There are also associated groups – Lashkar-y-Tayyiba, Jaish-y-Mohammed, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami and even portions of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Haqqani network is an insurgent group that has ties to the Taliban, which harbored bin Ladin and sanctions and supports al Qaida’s mission and goal of Islamic jihad. They are associated groups, and likely get al Qaida funding and support, but you can see just from the small number of them, the network is huge, and while they’re not all direct offshoots of al Qaida, they are all interrelated.
My point was that cutting defense spending – ACTUAL defense spending – like many people advocate will decimate our actual military and hamper our war against these terrorist assholes! Most of the nationbuilding bullshit we’re doing in Trashcanistan doesn’t come out of the defense budget – much of it is State Department funds and USAID money.
Seems that the current line taken by the libs is that it is “UnChristian” to celebrate a death….I’ve heard it doxens of times on the news channels lately. Even Fatass Michael Moore said it was ‘UnChristian”, as if he or any other left wing liberal knows ANYTHING about what being a Christian is all about….
sheesh, I’ll continue to pray for them I guess
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery mis-states:
that should be DOZENS
I thought you were an avowed atheist? Noncontradiction Indeed.
WHERES THE CHAT?
Ah! I’m pleased to announce that we agree!
Response to DJ Allyn, ITW @:
I’m so so so sorry! Seriously. I can’t even begin to imagine the torture! Maybe that should be our new interrogation technique!
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery says:
I am trying to figure out what was un-Christian about taking out Bin Laden. I will not comment on whether someone is a Christian or not(though someone who has openly mocked the crucifixion and is Pro-Death does make me wonder) but what does it matter. Bid Laden bad guy, leader of bad guys killed many people even many of his own muslims who he espoused to be killing for. And he hated all things from the West, yet had many of the creature comforts that the West created. Hmmmmm……..all I can say is well done Seal Team 6 and all others involved in supporting the successful mission.
As of all those that are having issues with Bin Laden being taken out, shut the fuck up. He was a murderer and got what he deserved. I wish they would show the look on his face when he realized the Seals had found his cowardly ass. I don’t need to see his dead corpse but his look of “oh fuck” would be nice to see.
The HarangueOutan
Funny, I don’t recall anyone citing Josh O’Nazareth as an authority for whacking terrorists. Yet I must respect DJ’s well-known Christian piety, which oozes from every pore…
Seriously, folks, the Left loves Christianity–when they think they can use it as a club against the Right! (Not insisting the ITW’s a leftist, but he is famous for playing one on the Net.)
Response to LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @:
Thanks for the breakdown. Extremely informative, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen it all put together like that.
I’m not sure even terrorists deserve being forced to listen to some boy-band until they crack. The World Court would string us up by our balls for that and deservedly so IMHO.
DJ Allyn, ITW says:
really? so perhaps we should also take pity on HItler for his being a prisoner in the basement of the Reichstag or for his deteriorating health eh? Jeez man, I don’t care if he was suicidally depressed….he was still in charge of Al Qaeda, and the compound was described as the Ops center for them. He still drove strategic plans for them, and was a spiritual leader as well.
Speaking as a Catholic Christian, I would have rather Bin Laden have been converted before he passed this life, but he did make his bed. “You live by the sword, you die by the sword.” and all of that.
And who knows….last Sunday my Church celebrated the Feast of Divine Mercy, the day Blessed Pope John Paul 2 was beatified. I’d like to think Mr Bin Laden repented of all of the evil he had done before his soul appeared before Christ for his personal judgment. I guess we’ll have to wait and find out in the Next Life whatever became of him. But I know had the Lord granted His infinite mercy on this man, I think he’s going to be in Purgatory for a loooooong time! (Maybe the last one to leave at the end of Time?)
Lady H sez:
Hopefully being forced to listen to “a whole bunch of ‘tweens’ whose parents are convinced that they can be the next Justin Beiber, and they are willing to blow their savings on recording demos.”
Having gained insight into what DJ has been subjected to as of late, I can understand his “There is no God” stance.
Then again, maybe God is punishing him for his “heathen ways”…..
The Deejinator:
FWIW Tolkien actually labeled the Gospel a “fairy story,” but I suspect you didn’t mean to show any respect–which would seem to render your original remark irrelevant anyway.
Condemning the recent “temination” of the monster Osama isn’t just a German thing. The disgusting Liberal thread runs the entire European gamut.
I believe it has to do with the Catholic religion, where ANY life is sacred and the “martyr syndrome” trumps defending yourself and your country.
Look at the reent demos in London. The cops and general public let the Mooslimes take over the public streets and spew their vile hatred. No repercussions.
Euroweenie land is rapidly turning into a Shariah empire.
Response to irish19 @:
No problem. I don’t think most people (and candidates) realize what they are advocating when they push for defense cuts. Sure, there is plenty of waste in the DoD, but cuts have to be intelligent, which is why I would never allow Ron Paul NEAR the defense budget.
Ah! But it would be SO much fun to watch their heads explode! Fuck the World Court! Fuck them with a rusty pitchfork sideways!
Response to DJ Allyn, ITW @:
Ear plugs might be in order. In whose Wheaties did you piss to have earned that particular form of torture??
simonwise says:
Um no offense but to any Christian life is sacred. The thing is when I hear someone saying that it is not Christian to perform punishment for wrong done I just want to laugh. The Bible teaches time and time again that there are consequences for your actions. Bin Laden lived a life of hatred and murder and consequence occurred.
Response to Lady H @:
Wait a minute here, suppose there were a few people in the Twin Towers and the Pentagon who were bound for hell and were killed before they had a chance to repent? Wouldn’t that be a kick in the nuts if Bin Laden repented and went to heaven while those people he murdered are burning in hell for eternity? I don’t necessarily believe all this, just posing the question as a philosophical point. what about Hitler? He evidently had a few days to consider his options. What do you think of his chances? “I’m sorry, now that everything has gone to pieces” doesn’t seem like much of a recommendation to me.
Because, unlike a spider or a rabid animal, a terrorist mass-murderer is a human being that chooses to be a monster. When such human filth is slaughtered it is a time for all decent civilized people to rejoice the removal of said filth. The goatfucker made his choices and ultimately got what he deserved. The rest of civilization deserves the chance to celebrate.
We also have thousands of dead muzz trash sent to the ninth ring of goatfucker hades so we do have some good, tangible results. to show for it.
The likes of Osama Be Rotting rejects the fact that life is sacred and goes so far as to massacre that life. Death is deserved and more than gloat-worthy. To do any less is to minimize the goatfucker’s actions and disrespect his victims.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/snl-perceptive-mermaid-friends-encounter-osama-bin-ladens-body/
DJ Allyn, ITW says:
Everything that the left said about the war in Iraq was that it was a distraction from the REAL mission, which was to get Osama Bin Laden. Hell, I remember YOU stating the same thing, calling him Osama Bin Forgotten. They and you made him the centerpiece of the war on terrorism.
DJ Allyn, ITW says:
well, his digs in Abbottabad were a step up from the caves of Tora Bora. He lived his entire life as spare as he could make it, it was a philosophy and a way of life for him.
Murder was his way of life. Power was his way of life, Force was his way of life, Terror was his way of life.
Lies were his way of life. Determined evil was his way of life.He lived only to extol others to kill us.
You guys can wrestle with you conscience, maybe get brave enough to even say “Sic semper tyrannus”,, but I’d like to think that this is just the the best adaptation to the assymetrica warfare we face,,and it’s going to unroll the same way for the next terrorist on the list. And the next, and the next.
If it pisses them off to the point of hasty revenge attacks,, too bad,, they were comin’ for us anyhoo,, ‘rather have ‘em all emotionally frenzied n’ less than methodical.
The hard drives are revealing the network,, bring ‘em out..
NEXT!
and
NEXT!
and
NEXT!
‘Glad I get to choose for myself whom to forgive, how far and for what.
I like anagrams too.
An anagram of Osama Bin Laden is “Lob man in da sea”
DJ Allyn, ITW says:
I think you misread what I posted man. The left made the war all about bin laden and defeating Al Qaeda. Bush, Rumsfeld, the UN ( until they were paid off during Oil for Food) knew that coming to grips with islamic terrorists meant more than just fighting al qaeda. The war would be a many front war designed to hem in and contain the real threat in the area….aka Iran. Look at where we are strategically, Iraq and Afghanistan. They sandwich Iran, and contain them……
DJ Allyn, ITW says:
Support from whom? The UN??? They hindered us all the way during the leadup of OIF, they stalled and played games while Bush tried to play by the rules and get them on board. They stalled and gave saddam time to remove anything that might be incriminating…..and they got rich on Oil for Food money intended to feed the Iraqi people but used instead to bribe UN officials to stall.
so who’s paying Bush’s buddies now? God forbid we should take the fight to this global enemy….God forbid, someone might make money on it.
DJ Allyn, ITW says:
and killing him then would have ended things right? there would be no more global jihad against the infidel right?
‘scuse me while I go sing a couple of stanzas of “I’d like to teach the world to sing” and then throw up.
DJ Allyn, ITW says:
That was a pretty good definition DJ but NOT of an Atheist. That was quite a good definition of an Agnostic!
Atheist = No God
Agnostic = There is a God but, No One True Religion!
It’s the German guilt. Now that I live here, I’m beginning to understand it. People are happy OBL is dead- they just get embarrassed when someone expresses that, because they are acutely self-conscious and guilty about the whole war legacy, and shy away from things that they feel would make them look bloodthirsty, vindictive, etc.
But trust me, they’re happy- at least everyone I’ve talked to is.
seagoon says:
Very true. A very clear analysis, I must say. We need to have a beer some day, mate.
DJ Allyn, ITW says:
To be specific, my statement included obl, and everyone and thing that ever, or will ever exist. You assumed that it was limited to ubl.
“Words have meanings” ‘Ring a bell?
Debate about forgiveness was moot all along, I just had a few minutes to drop by.
All rights reserved.
Response to LC Panzermann @:
Vielen Danke
Where are you located, anyway? I’ll be doing some traveling once I’m settled here and that beer could prolly be arranged.
DJ Allyn, ITW says:
Cite the source please DJ. I doubt this was EVER said.
DJ Allyn, ITW says:
because it’s the Christian thing to do……it’s what differentiates us from the muslims
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:
Niki, you might want to check your facts on the F-35. The early variants are woefully underpowered, underperforming even the long in the tooth 4th gen F-16. The engine upgrade is vital, or the F-35 is a sitting duck. ( much like the early F/A-18 was before its engine upgrade to Super Hornet)
Response to seagoon @:
I am in the Frankfurt/Main area. Plenty of good places to visit around here. Just let me know when you are in the area, I’ll be buying
Response to LC Panzermann @:
I’ll be in touch- need to get my German up a little more before I go a-wandering… and all this Schwaebisch ain’t helping