What Did You THINK Was Going to Happen?

We’re not going to go into much detail about the events of Charlottesville, at least not until we find out what actually happened, an unlikely occurrence to say the very least with the current monopoly of Prozis and Cucks in charge of the media.

All we’ll do is ask, as in the headline: “What, exactly, did you think was going to happen as a consequence of letting Prozi fascist hordes run free, rioting, burning, raping and killing with nary a consequence in sight? Did you honestly think that there would be no backlash ever, contrary to every single thing that history has taught us?”

We suspect that they knew very well, and the utterly predictable outcome is exactly what they wanted, all along.

We, “we” meaning “everybody with sufficient intelligence to successfully boil water”, knew very well that it would come to clashes eventually, people will only be put up with being gassed and hit over the head with bike locks for so long while law “enforcement” sits idly by and does nothing, and we also suspected very strongly that when it inevitably did happen, the Prozi left would be the only ones not blamed for the mess.

As the Imperial Mother always taught us that it takes two to have a fight, but not in these dis-United States of America, it would appear. At least not according to the Prozimedia and the ever surrendering cucks.

What little we know at the time of writing about the events in question is hardly flattering, and more than a little bit worrisome.

We know that law “enforcement” forced the right wing protest to pass, single file, through a raving, screeching violent mob of bloodthirsty Prozis. We also know that, when the inevitable happened and fights started, law “enforcement” not only stood down entirely, making not a single effort to stop the violence before it escalated (it was being committed against the “right” people, after all), but then moved to disperse the outnumbered defenders after the up until the “anti”-fascist fascists started a fight peaceful protest had been declared “illegal.”

One can only wonder at whose orders, right?

So spare us the “it was all their fault” nonsense.

Once again, for the particularly dimwitted, it takes two to tango.

And it wasn’t the “violent” right who wanted to dance.

Thatisall.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    the ever surrendering cucks.

    Not sure that mere surrender usually requires such repeated and enthusiastic performances of fellatio.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    We know that law “enforcement” forced the right wing protest to pass, single file, through a raving, screeching violent mob of bloodthirsty Prozis.

    Seems like more confirmation that “law enforcement” has taken a side. They should ask the RUC how well that turned out in Norn Iron.

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    I find it remarkable that not one single shot was fired. You know the White Supremacists were probably armed, at least those that could carry. As to what actually happened with that car? I’ve heard way to much conflicting information.
    :em03:
    If the mayor did order the police to stand down, then I hope the DoJ investigation nails him. Personally I was hoping both sides would lose. (Antifa thugs and Neo-Nazi scum)
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    irish19 growls and barks:

    Personally I was hoping both sides would lose.

    That’s how I always feel when the Yankees play the White Schlox.
    I do agree that it’s remarkable that no one got shot. Apparently, that point hasn’t quite been reached yet.

    They should ask the RUC how well that turned out in Norn Iron.

    That is an excellent point. However, asking progs for rational thought is an exercise in futility.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    That’s how I always feel when the Yankees play the White Schlox.

    Or, as I like to call ‘em, the Dirty Sox.

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Grr. Wish that I had kept the link – now I’d have to go back over to ATH and dig through 304 comments to find it again.

    There is apparently a post over at Belmont Club with links to video and stills showing that one of the counter-protestors (antifa? mixed antifa and BLM?) hit the back of the guy’s Charger with a baseball bat just prior to him accelerating into the other cars and the crowd, Misha. Predictably, the video links keep coming up dead as YouTube keeps deleting the videos for various “unspecified TOS reasons” (go figger), so Belmont has to keep reposting them with new vid links as they come available.

    If so, then self defense rather than unprovoked aggression: we’ve seen too many cases of cars getting trapped in crowds of antifa and BLM and the drivers getting brutalized for anyone not to be able to make a reasonable case that they feared for their safety, and numerous states have passed laws and regs that driving over a crowd of protestors blocking the road isn’t a criminal act.

    Be that as it may:

    people will only be put up with being gassed and hit over the head with bike locks for so long while law “enforcement” sits idly by and does nothing

    Bingo.

    And car trumps bike lock.

    Technically we’re behind the curve still: there’s been a hell of a lot more acts of leftist violence against Trump supporters going back through 2016 than verifiable acts by Trump supporters against Leftists.

    James Alex Fields Jr.: Making America Great Again – 36 counter protestors at a time.
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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    angrywebmaster says:

    (Antifa thugs and Neo-Nazi scum)

    We know there were Antifa scum there.

    Do we actually know if there were any “Neo-nazi” scum? At all?

    I mean: actually know. I’m not willing to take the media’s word for it.
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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Ironbear says:

    Do we actually know if there were any “Neo-nazi” scum? At all?

    I read an account from somebody who was there (on the Unite the Right side, not a lying Prozi) where he stated that yes, there were a small gaggle of NSM LARPer idjits there, but they kept mostly to themselves. Apparently nobody wanted to be near the retarded scum, for obvious reasons.
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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    Ironbear @ #:

    Do we actually know if there were any “Neo-nazi” scum? At all?

    Yeah, there were some there. They weren’t being subtle at all. One was nice enough to mouth off to a Fox News guy as he was doing a report.
    :em08:
    Nazis. What are the good for? Moving targets on a live fire range, otherwise, not much.
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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Emperor Misha I says:

    I read an account from somebody who was there (on the Unite the Right side, not a lying Prozi) where he stated that yes, there were a small gaggle of NSM LARPer idjits there, but they kept mostly to themselves. Apparently nobody wanted to be near the retarded scum, for obvious reasons.

    Okay…

    I did an image search for “Nazi Charlottesville rally” and “Nazi flag Charlottesville”, and I came up with a number of pics – all of which seemed to be of the same one single guy marching with a Nazi flag in the middle of a crowd of people with Confederate flags. (The one that I think’s been in all of the news photos.)

    So, between that and your “small gaggle of”, I’m inclined to think that if any, it was a very tiny percentage and not a main part of the Unite the Right.

    angrywebmaster says:

    Nazis. What are the good for? Moving targets on a live fire range, otherwise, not much.

    Not even gonna argue that point.

    Am gonna say that “some” and “a small gaggle” there doesn’t make that a neo-Nazi or White Supremacist rally in anything other than the media and the Left’s frame and narrative.
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    irish19 growls and barks:

    LC Xystus @ #:
    :em01: :em01: :em01:

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    irish19 @ #:

    That’s how I always feel when the Yankees play the White Schlox.

    As a New Englander, I have two words to say…
    :em03:
    YANKEES SUCK!!
    :em07:
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    LC LucysDaddy--Imperial Tire Provider growls and barks:

    angrywebmaster @ #:

    As a Yankees fan, I would just like to say that there was no such thing as the Curse of the Bambino. The Red Sox just sucked for 86 years.
    :em05:

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    LC LucysDaddy–Imperial Tire Provider @ #:

    As a Yankees fan, I would just like to say that there was no such thing as the Curse of the Bambino. The Red Sox just sucked for 86 years.

    Where as, the Yankees just suck. Period. Mike Drop.
    :em07:
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    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain growls and barks:

    Baseball aside, what happened this weekend is a remarkable occurrence. The libtards are becoming quite frisky over the past year or so, which has vast ramifications for patriots down the line. These folks aren’t very good with a rifle or handgun, but they do have decent skills with a molotov cocktail or pipe.

    This has all the marks of a real heavyweight rumble.

    -Jim+

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    LC Roguetek growls and barks:

    Nazis, and other turdburglars have one valueble function.

    Canaries in the coal mine.

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    LC Roguetek growls and barks:

    oh, and I’m home. Did I miss anything?

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    I seem to recall a military axiom from our old friend Bonaparte, along the lines of when your enemy is making mistakes, stand aside and allow them to proceed. In the same vein, when you have blue on blue mayhem, stand aside and let them have at it.

    The sadness comes when gullible are caught in the crossfire for being too clueless to realize where they are standing.

    Sad a young lady was killed but she apparently was wrapped up in the whole Antifa thing. So sad really that so many modern under 40′s do not seem to be able to discern that the “Antifa” are actually left wing hooligans bent on destruction of everything they disagree with (they are most disagreeable for sure). The KKK are the grandsons of the southern Democrats of Jim Crow and over yonder the minuscule so called American Nazis (National Socialist Party back in the day – hello Chicago!) were and are …. wait for it….. SOCIALISTS nay COMMUNISTS with their own brand of anarchy built in. So here we have left on left on left warfare. Makes me wonder if they even know what the “fasces” symbol represents?

    Dare we stand aside and let them decimate each other, let the police deal with the assholes while we get serious about tracing and destroying the sources that fund the various groups? When the money dries up, so does the ability of these shiftless louts to displace from venue to venue, much less be fed and indoctrinated (oops, gotta clean out the blue state/city educational cesspits too). We started with the ballot box in 2016 and have an opportunity to do so again in a short 14 months give or take. The more these goons piss off the average citizen, the greater the anti-leftist wave. Good thing they have zero common sense and will continue to go berserk.

    Be aware of your surroundings, educate family and friends, be not where the loonies are.

    What was that other thing, ah yes, peace through overwhelming capacity for war. Keep it up libtards, keep it up and you may find out what that means.

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Terrapod says:

    Sad a young lady was killed but she apparently was wrapped up in the whole Antifa thing.

    At the risk of apparently being one of the only old time Rotts in this comment string taking the Rorschach perspective – which wouldn’t have been the case ten years ago – I just gotta ask:

    What’s sad about that? What’s so fucking sad about a dead female Commie antifa run over by a car?

    The Left are the people who make people like Rachel of the Pancake into a Saint.

    We don’t need to do it for them.

    So. Just what exactly is so “sad” about it?
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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Ironbear, the loss of a young life that might still have had room for redemption is always sad.

    Agree fully that the individual is responsible for the decisions they make, good or bad. By being there she was in harms way and probably gave no thought to what might result in a clash between demented groups, probably too naive to see the antifa as demented. May the good lord pardon her poor choice being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Us remaining mortals just have to deal with the consequences of 120 or so years of liberalism and related mind rot.

    I am always saddened by the wasted lives of people who should know better, this runs the gamut – drugs, crime, riot, property damage, lack of civility and in many cases the broken and dysfunctional family units which they spring from.

    Time is well at hand for another religious revival in this country (there have been several before (not that this is taught in public schools). It is the 500th anniversary of our friend Martin Luther standing up to the Pope, something we should all reflect on if we want to continue avoiding repressive despots. An dear god, no church of Hillary, ever.

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    I’m with Ironbear. That’s one lefty bitch that won’t be spawning more proglodytes.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain @ #:15

    “what happened this weekend is a remarkable occurrence . . . which has vast ramifications for patriots down the line.”

    Something else with vast ramifications also got exposed: that whole “the cops are on *OUR* side” thing that many on the Right have been claiming for years.

    Some might be, but anything more than that is clearly no longer a safe assumption.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Ironbear @ #:19

    What’s sad about that? What’s so fucking sad about a dead female Commie antifa run over by a car?

    She transitioned from being a communist to being a good communist. Or, to paraphrase Rick Blaine: “She got a lucky break. Yesterday, she was just an apparatchik. Today, she’s the ‘Honored Dead’.”

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Terrapod says:

    Ironbear, the loss of a young life that might still have had room for redemption is always sad.

    We’re at war.

    The death of a young enemy soldier may be tragic, but it isn’t sad.

    It’s sad that James Alex Fields Jr. only managed to kill one antifa.

    Hey, a single Muslim rapefugee in Paris managed to kill more Frenchmen with a truck and a machete than an American could Antifa with a top of the line American muscle car. That’s sad.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/16/baltimore-removes-four-confederate-statues-cover-night/

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/15/next-on-liberals-list-for-destruction-confederate-carvings-at-stone-mountain-memorial/

    It’s sad that the Right isn’t responding to the destruction of American cultural and historical symbols by taking their maxed out 4×4 pickups and winch cables and pulling down the statue of Lenin in Seattle, along with statues of Rosa Parks, M.L. King, and Margaret Sanger all over the U.S..

    It’s sad that Right-wing businessmen aren’t responding to Google’s firing of James Damore with the firings of SJWs, Leftists, and Hillary supporters all across the U.S..

    It’s sad that this fuckwit is still employed by WalMart and that Americans all across the U.S. haven’t demanded that WalMart Inc fire him:

    https://us3.walmartone.com/pages/stories-and-news/articles/a-message-from-doug/

    It’s sad that you apparently would rather feel bad for the poor young Lefty street pizza than for the long, long list of people on the Right assaulted by people just like her over the course of the past year and a half:

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/16/this-list-of-attacks-against-conservatives-is-mind-blowing/?utm_source=site-share

    It’s sad that the Left has not only declared that they’re at war with us since Trump became a viable candidate in early 2016 through word and deed, and yet the vast majority of the Right can’t seem to figure out that that means that we’re at war with them and act accordingly.

    It’s not sad that a young Leftist twat got herself flattened by a Dodge Charger while she was with a crowd of Leftist antifa who were blocking a city street and beating on a car with baseball bats.

    Piss on “sad”.

    I’m angry.
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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    “.. we are at war”

    Only one side is not really fighting, this being the huge swath of middle America that has to get up at 5 AM daily to go to work.

    We are not (yet) fighting because we still believe in representative government (fast eroding) and the rule of law (also fast eroding) and because we know the history of the last time there was war on this land.

    24 months to see if our elected officials are capable of changing the course the country is on, one more mid term election to nudge them.

    As to the people we supposedly hire to maintain law and order, they are going to be the first to know when unrestricted warfare is on, may they choose sides wisely. The next civil war will start inside cities, not in the fields. Chicago, Baltimore, New York, Sl Louis, LA, Portland, Philadelphia and Washington DC all probably ground zero if and when it starts, maybe even Dallas which has gone a bit squirrel of late. Angry, most definitely, ready to take up weapons, not yet.

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    I’ve heard, regarding the car incident, that there is a video taken just prior to the first impact, and it shows the brake lights coming on.
    :em03:
    If, and this is a very big if, this is accurate and there is such a video, then the prosecutor’s case just got a whole lot harder. It blows the intent to harm right out the window.
    If you’re going to run down people, the last thing you do is step on the brakes. You step on the gas to increase velocity.
    Again, while I do know the source, I have not personally seen any such video. (I’ve also avoided watching any of the videos of the incident)
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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Terrapod says:

    The next civil war will start inside cities, not in the fields. Chicago, Baltimore, New York, Sl Louis, LA, Portland, Philadelphia and Washington DC all probably ground zero if and when it starts, maybe even Dallas which has gone a bit squirrel of late. Angry, most definitely, ready to take up weapons, not yet.

    When it breaks sideways, it’s going to be in one of the Red-state cities with Must Issue CCP. Some group of antifa/BLM/SJW “counter-protestors” emboldened by the media is going to overreach themselves and some permit holder is going to shoot a bunch of them in self defense or in defense of someone else.

    I’d say Phoenix, Denver, Salt Lake, or someplace like that, but DFW is also a good candidate for ground zero.

    (That BS with renaming RL Thornton to “Barack Obama Freeway” isn’t going to go over well in Texas. If it doesn’t spark anything, then it’s going to be one more squirt of gasoline on the fire for when it does blaze up.)

    I still say that 2020 during and immediately after Trump’s reelection campaign is going to be the danger point for it all breaking wide open.
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    irish19 growls and barks:

    Ironbear @ #:
    Red state is, I think, the key term. As long as they confine their Weimar re-enactments to blue cities, the rest of us will just sip on adult beverages, eat sammiches, puff on cigars or pipes, and cheer both sides on. However, all bets will be off if they get bold or stupid enough to try that in one of the places you named.

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    irish19 says:

    Ironbear @ #:
    Red state is, I think, the key term. As long as they confine their Weimar re-enactments to blue cities, the rest of us will just sip on adult beverages, eat sammiches, puff on cigars or pipes, and cheer both sides on.

    Heh. Reminds me of when we had a few neighbors over to watch a movie, and the discussion turned to North Korea’s nukes and the probability that at worst the NORKS might be able to reach the west coast.

    One of the neighbors from across the road reflected for a moment, then said, “Hell, Jong Un does realized that we’d pay him to nuke Sacramento, right?”

    :)
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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Terrapod @ #:26

    Angry, most definitely, ready to take up weapons, not yet.

    Which leads to the cannibal’s paradox: by the time people in dire situations overcome the taboo against eating their own dead, they’re often past the point where doing so can still save them. The same problem exists with fighting back – wait too long to decide that “the time is right” and it no longer matters, because you can no longer save yourself.

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Logical progression between now and midterms:
    More Antifa/Anarchist actions, mostly in blue cities
    More attacks at the fabric of the south and all it’s visible monuments
    Absolute beyond all rationality actions by the press
    All blame directed at Trump and his administration

    Result:
    Loss of another 500 state offices by the D party
    Riddance of maybe half a dozen Remocrat rinos and equal number of D’inosaurs both by challengers mostly from their own parties
    Difficult to see major swing either way in the senate but I think the house will gain R seats not lose them as the D party thinks
    The polling will be so tainted and skewed as to be worth less than in last cycle which is saying something.

    I say give this one more turn of the ballot screw before the explosion.

    Agree with IB that Trump running for re-election will be what causes a total meltdown and likely triggers the leftards to start shooting, providing more losses at the midterms does not cause premature detonation.

    On comment made by FaCube – it simply must be the left that starts shooting first in a big way with video evidence splashed all over before the core of this country reacts, has to be, otherwise the media will crucify all those who stand up to save the republic. We all know what media frenzy causes, it will be the defenders that end up prosecuted. The left dominates the courts in most of the likely flashpoints at this time.

    It will not be pretty or sanitary but just maybe it can be contained, not sure it can be headed off, not enough adults seem to be in charge.

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    irish19 growls and barks:

    Ironbear @ #:
    I’d rather they take San Fran or LA, but Sacramento would be acceptable if Gov. Moonbeam were home at the time.

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Yeah, agreed to a point. L.A. would be no great loss, nor would SF. But Sacramento is where all of the lunacy gets embedded into law there, so my neighbor had the right of it.
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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Terrapod says:

    More attacks at the fabric of the south and all it’s visible monuments
    Absolute beyond all rationality actions by the press

    The dust hasn’t even settled from Charlottesvile and they’re already doubling and tripling down on both of those:

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9kkkby/lets-get-rid-of-mount-rushmore
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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Hah! And here I thought all these years that FDR (MHRIH) was the patron saint of the left.
    Looks like the thugs have no religion whatsoever (good work Prozis) and are turning on those who thought themselves to be the masters. :em05:

    You are right, so long as the mayhem is confined to Blue zones, pass the popcorn while preparing to repel boarders. :em01: .

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Heh. And on the “beyond all rationality actions by the press” table, I direct your attention to Breitbart where over on our Left we find CNN’s Angela Rye saying “that statues of slave owners, whether they’re of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, or Robert E. Lee should come down”.

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/08/17/cnns-rye-statues-of-washington-jefferson-and-robert-e-lee-all-need-to-come-down/

    Give it up, Terrapod. There is nothing so extreme or outre that you can propose that some idiot on the Left or in the Media isn’t already doing it or preparing to do it. :)

    Want a beer to go with that popcorn? I keep NA beer for me, but I always have a few six packs of real beer around for guests. And we have IBC in the fridge. Pass the weenies and the Smores makings – I have the feeling that this is going to be a long and entertaining year.
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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Newspeak Dictionary
    1) Nazi (current U.S. edition) = National Socialist = Greens, Pinkos, BLM, BPP, Occupy whatever, Communists, Socialists
    2) AntFa = Anti Social behavior = .Luddites, Anarchists, SJW, Greens, Pinkos, BLM, BPP, Occupy whatever, Marxists, Leninists, Maoists, Fidelists, Communists, Socialists ad nauseum. Admire Che Guevara, know nothing of history.
    3) AltRight = no such thing exists, invented name for the straw man by 1), 2) 5) , 6) and 9)
    4) Conservative = anyone of any background that is self supporting, works in the real economy and sees what the above cost them in taxes. Most of their thinking is based on reality and recognition of human nature.
    5) Liberal (current edition) = anyone of any background that encourages, aids and abets 1), 2) and 3) in order to be the last the alligator eats. All of their thinking does not recognize human nature and is doomed to fail.
    6) Fascist = Those in group 5) that think they can be in control, all rest applies
    7) Libertarian = somewhat more rational version of 6), fringes of 4) except where drugs are concerned, most of their thinking does not recognize human nature and is doomed to fail.
    8) Deep State = Federal and State Government which has outgrown it’s basic mission and metastasized into a cancer on the body politic and the Republic. Depends on 4) and 7) for sustenance but is killing it’s host. Strikes out at all who wish to diagnose, excise and reduce the malignancy.
    9) Academicians = The most bitter of groups 1, 2 and 3 that have actually managed to rise in stature off the public teat, using their positions to poison the minds of future generations as a means of perpetuating their existence and that of 5), 8) and themselves. Incapable of rational thought and despise those who succeed on their own merits.
    10) Classical Liberals = Few remain as it requires in depth UNDERSTANDING of history, literature, the arts, including study of the enlightenment and the development of western civilization. Some have moved over to 4) and need to be closely watched.
    11) We the people = group 4) and some of 7) who have had enough of the rest, elected Trump as the better of the options generated by the two party system, in expectation of changing the decline caused by the rest and keeping the Republic intact.
    12) Patriots = those predominantly from group 4) and 11) who have taken the oath and believe the Republic as founded is worth saving.

    The sequence of this exposition can be re-ordered in ascending or descending order based on a number of traits. Those who care fort taxonomy and orderliness can adjust as desired. :em03:

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    13) People like me = Those who no longer believe that the Republic as founded exists, and that it can’t be salvaged or recovered at this point, and who are just waiting to see the fireworks as it all implodes.

    3) AltRight = no such thing exists, invented name for the straw man by 1), 2) 5) , 6) and 9)

    Horseshit.

    The Alt-right exists and it wasn’t invented by any of those.
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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    IB – have always read a lot, all subjects, don’t care, classic Greek, engineering, history (pre 1950 texts preferably) so called political sciences, any book laying on a shelf will get a look and in depth read if it catches my interest. Then there is tons of online crap with small nuggets of intellect here and there.

    Never ran into the term “AltRight” until the Shrillay sad loser brigades (the MSM) started spouting it, kinda starting right about the time they got a whiff of the coffee and realized they were political read kill. Visceral triggers seem to be the mention of the name Bannon and Trump.

    Am interested in hearing from the panel here, what the label stands for and if there is an attributable originator..

    If I had to come up with a use, would be my label for the entrenched Republican political elites that have sold out their constituents and act no different than flaming liberals. That would be the “Altered Right:em05:

    Oh, I know it means “alternate right” , like my take better.

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    Terrapod says:

    On comment made by FaCube – it simply must be the left that starts shooting first in a big way with video evidence splashed all over before the core of this country reacts, has to be, otherwise the media will crucify all those who stand up to save the republic.

    It doesn’t matter who starts the shooting. The National Socialist Democratic Workers Party propaganda apparat is going to crucify all those who stand up to save the republic anyway.

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    Retired Spook growls and barks:

    VonZorch Imperial Researcher says:

    Terrapod says:

    On comment made by FaCube – it simply must be the left that starts shooting first in a big way with video evidence splashed all over before the core of this country reacts, has to be, otherwise the media will crucify all those who stand up to save the republic.

    It doesn’t matter who starts the shooting. The National Socialist Democratic Workers Party propaganda apparat is going to crucify all those who stand up to save the republic anyway.

    Not if there’s none of them left.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Ironbear @ #:34

    L.A. would be no great loss

    Enh, when LA ran California, it was still *relatively* sane and a decent business environment. Once San Francisco took over, it all went off the rails.

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Terrapod says:

    Never ran into the term “AltRight” until the Shrillay sad loser brigades (the MSM) started spouting it, kinda starting right about the time they got a whiff of the coffee and realized they were political read kill. Visceral triggers seem to be the mention of the name Bannon and Trump.

    sHrillary publicly declared war on a cartoon meme-Frog, too. Are you real sure you want to take her word for anything?

    Am interested in hearing from the panel here, what the label stands for and if there is an attributable originator..

    Here. Let me Google that for ya.

    Spencer claims to have created the term, however it predates Spencer. (I don’t recall the name of the blogger/writer who did originate it back in’08 or ’09 or so offhand.)

    The actual movement that is today considered the alt-Right grew out of the remnants of three previous political movements: the Dissident Right, the Neo-reactionary Movement, and Gamergate. Some of it grew out of elements of the Men’s Rights movement.

    While he didn’t invent the term, the person who did and has done more work to both invent the movement, define it, and set down the philosophical underpinnings of the alt-Right and popularize the term since then has been Vox Day.

    https://voxday.blogspot.com/

    For all intents and purposes, really, Vox Day/Theodore Beale is the inventor and populist of the Alt-Right. And the corresponding Alt-West and Alt-Light, as well as of the Cuckservative meme.

    (That’s another one you left off your list: Cuckservative. You also misused the term “Newspeak.”)
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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Retired Spook says:

    Not if there’s none of them left.

    *nod*

    They can run, they can hide, they still all get helicopter ride!
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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches says:

    Enh, when LA ran California, it was still *relatively* sane and a decent business environment. Once San Francisco took over, it all went off the rails.

    *snort* I’ve been to Los Angeles.

    Nuke, nuke, nuke L.A., nuke, nuke L.A., nuke, nuke L.A., nuke, nuke…
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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Terrapod says:

    Am interested in hearing from the panel here, what the label stands for and if there is an attributable originator..

    Oh. I left out the Dark Enlightenment from my list of sources and political-philosophical antecedents for the Alt-Right.

    That’s what you get when you expect others to do your homework for you. They don’t always cover all of the ground in the course curriculum. :)

    Oh and “White Supremacist” and “Neo-Nazi” are not synonymous with the Alt-Right.

    As Vox Day is one of the prime movers and definers of the modern Alt-Right movement and philosophy, he’s just about exactly (give or take some percent) “White” as I am “Amerind”. and he’s both a self-identified Red Nationalist, thoroughly anti-Nazi, and not a supremacist.

    Me, I’m a ‘Breed who can pass, and a Texican, and secondarily an American Nationalist, but technically Alt-Right to the extent that I’m Alt-West and the Alt-West is a subset of the Alt-Right.

    Calling me a “White Supremacist” is definitely going to put you on the sharp end of my sense of humor, which is a place in the crosshairs that you won’t enjoy in the long run. Ask Misha.

    (That’s assuming that I don’t just cock an eyebrow and ask, “So? What’s yer point?”)

    If I had to come up with a use, would be my label for the entrenched Republican political elites that have sold out their constituents and act no different than flaming liberals. That would be the “Altered Right”

    No.

    Those are the Cuckservatives, or “Cucks” for short.
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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Tip of the hat Ironbear .

    Says a lot about living here in the Midwest that of all these monikers – Dissident Right, the Neo-reactionary Movement, Gamergate Dark Enlightenment and Cucservatives (along with that silly frog meme), the only terms that impinge are: Cucks, the slinging around of the “AltRight meme”, the frog and faintly Gemergate. Had already pegged the Cucks as the modern word for RINO.

    As to Google and many other reading stops online, have become more and more skeptical of them as reliable source, their “news” feeds along with those of AOL, Red State and even NRO to name a few, seem to have gone over the left side of the cliff which means they are agenda driven just like the MSM, Anything they report is discounted heavily. with regards to truthiness,

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Terrapod says:

    Tip of the hat Ironbear .

    Says a lot about living here in the Midwest that of all these monikers – Dissident Right, the Neo-reactionary Movement, Gamergate Dark Enlightenment and Cucservatives (along with that silly frog meme), the only terms that impinge are: Cucks, the slinging around of the “AltRight meme”, the frog and faintly Gemergate. Had already pegged the Cucks as the modern word for RINO.

    Thank you. Two shows a night: I’m here all week. :)

    *nod*

    Cuckservative = RINO is deadly accurate.

    You can tell that it is by the way that calling Squishy-Cons and RINOS a “cuck” drives them absolutely berzerk in a way that “Republican in Name Only” or the Left’s old favorite of “Rethuglican” never did.

    As to Google and many other reading stops online, have become more and more skeptical of them as reliable source, their “news” feeds along with those of AOL, Red State and even NRO to name a few, seem to have gone over the left side of the cliff which means they are agenda driven just like the MSM, Anything they report is discounted heavily. with regards to truthiness,

    Good.

    Something that just flat continually puzzles and amazes me is how so many people can look at the slow unmasking of the Media through the GWB years, and then the rapid unveiling of them through the 2016 campaign as “Democrat Operatives with Bylines”, and sit there and say straight out that “The Media distorts and lies about everything!” and yet…

    A few minutes later they’ll turn right around and use the exact same lying and distorted MSM media machine as a source for information on whatever arguments they’re spouting.

    It’s like Jackie Chan said in Rush Hour (paraphrased): “Do these people even listen to the words that are coming out of their mouths?”

    The media lies about and distorts everything. FOX, MSNBCCBSNBCABCCNN. Everything.

    Everything the mainstream Media puts out in the way of information is disinformation designed to push a prevailing narrative.

    Nothing from the media can be taken at face value, or trusted as information. Nothing.

    If you’re an American or a defender and advocate of Western Civilization, the media is the Enemy.

    Ditto for polls and polling organizations. They’re an arm and an extension of the media.

    Where this leaves us, quite frankly, sucks. It means that we have three choices:

    1) Automatically discount everything the media says and assume the opposite of what they say is the truth. Non optimal.

    2) Automatically discount everything the media says as distorted, and mine it exhaustively for the few crumbs of actual signal buried in the noise, and research those crumbs for verification. A hella lotta work. Non optimal.

    3) Automatically discount everything the media says as distorted and/or lies, and just use it as pointers to the issue, and then go directly to the sources as a starter point for researching it yourself until you can form an informed opinion. The “even false intelligence is still intelligence: it tells you what the enemy wants you to believe, or what they don’t want you to know, so look for why” method of intelligence analysis.

    Number 3 is also a hell of a lot of work, and most people don’t have the skills to do it these days – thanks Education System! – or the time, or the resources. Non optimal.

    What’s left is finding a few resources that you can trust, vetting them carefully, and then forming your own opinions. And a lot of time, just using common sense and trusting your own gut.

    I know that for me, the fact that the Alt-right was around a long, long time before the MSM or the mainstream political machine ever discovered and uttered the term was a dead giveaway that they didn’t have a clue what they were talking about.

    Hell, I was in the frigging homeless system in 2009 and 2010 and I’d run across the term Alt-Right and Dissident Right browsing blogs and alternative news sources on the fucking library computers, when I wasn’t even really plugged into the zeitgeist any more. (I went “dark” in early ’09 due to a bout of unemployment leading to homelessness and lost my internet connection until I became housed again in early 2011. So I was seriously unplugged for a long time.)

    The Media was as far behind the curve on that as they were when they discovered to their shock and horror that lone “Rope, Journalist, Lamppost, some assembly required” t-shirt on that guy at the Trump rally, and didn’t realize that it originated back with IMAO and Misha here over a fucking decade before. :)

    I don’t honestly know what to tell you.

    I know that our Republic, what’s left of it, absolutely depends on a free press. And I know that we no longer have even a press, much less a free one.

    So I really don’t know where we go from here.

    Most days, I figure that the cartridge box is the only box left, and we’re just counting down the days until we finally open it and hoist the black flag.

    Well, for certain values of “we”, anyway.

    I don’t plan on hoisting any flags. Why warn the enemy that the balloon has gone up?
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    Being somewhat familiar with violent political theory dissent (Viet Nam past Desert Storm), I’m prepared for this bullshit to start. Really do want to up my MRE stash, but I’m also a trained forager. So long as I have “enough ammo for this run”, I’ll be fine. :em04:

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    Ironbear @ #49: Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
    :em03:

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    #49 all the way. About the folks that still watch the MSM I can give you a first hand report on that from the microcosm.

    Wife has always liked watching 60 minutes ( I quit right about 1970, funny putting on a uniform had something to do with that) which maybe, back when she was 10, did some real reporting. Likely her parents watched every Sunday as did most. Then came Vietnam and the agenda took over big time.

    Nowadays when she tunes in CBS it is with a pained expression and she is now agreeing with me that virtually all the national news is skewed left so hard that it is painful to watch. It has become, background noise while doing other things. The local weather, local crime reporting and local events are all that are left somewhat untainted, but you still have to be vigilant as the SJW mentality is penetrating the locals.

    The decline will continue until it implodes a la Venezuela in blue cities. Ya notice that Venezuela news is 100% suppressed? Go look at some of the streaming videos from Caracas, Maracaibo and Colombian news. Food riots, zoo animals being stolen for meat, soldiers crossing to Colombia to beg for food.

    Depressed just discussing this crap – going to get a beer or three.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Ironbear @ #:46

    *snort* I’ve been to Los Angeles.

    Yes, LA is lefty and weird. However, it is a far less virulent strain of lefty and weird than San Francisco (however, as LA’s “diversity” increases, it is definitely moving towards a ‘Friscoesque future). LA lefties still like to make money, for example, and the overall attitude is more one of “whatever, dude” than enforced ideological conformity. It’s a bad cold, whereas San Francisco is more like the Black Death.

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Terrapod says:

    Ya notice that Venezuela news is 100% suppressed? Go look at some of the streaming videos from Caracas, Maracaibo and Colombian news. Food riots, zoo animals being stolen for meat, soldiers crossing to Colombia to beg for food.

    Oh yeah. Big time.

    I’m kinda used to that: I noticed back when I was in South America and the lower Caribbean in my 20s that U.S. and European news media just kind of ignores South America unless American tourists are getting blown up. We had the Shining Path running around the Andes and the Brazilian border country chopping people to death with machetes, DEA and U.S. drug interdiction troops all over Columbia, the FARC killing people right and left, and maybe, maybe, you’d see a quick blurb in the U.S. news whenever the Medellin blew up a judge or a politician with a mailbox bomb.

    But the Contras and the Sandanistas up in Central America involved “Right-wing” violence, so the media was all over that shit. :)

    I’ve been watching the Colombian and British and French Guyana media for glimpses of what’s happening there. I used to have a few expat friends in the area that I could ask what was up down there, but not being idiots, they all bailed when Chavez took over.

    Sucks. Venezuela was a lovely, lovely country when I was there in 1980. Hate to see it go this way, but it’s inevitable when you get that peculiar combination of Latin American fatalism and socialists involved.

    Depressed just discussing this crap – going to get a beer or three.

    Agreed.
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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches says:

    It’s a bad cold, whereas San Francisco is more like the Black Death.

    Yeah, it’s kinda like debating what will kill you faster: walking pneumonia, or terminal crotch rot.
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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    The Leftoids are now digging up the grave of Nathan Bedford Forrest.

    Here’s a little history of NBF that the Powers That Be have wiped out of the “history” books.

    The Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association (predecessor to the NAACP) was organized by Southern blacks after the war to promote black voting rights, etc. One of their early conventions was held in Memphis and Mr. Forrest was invited to be the guest speaker, the first white man ever to be invited to speak to the Association.

    “Ladies and Gentlemen, I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God’s earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.)

    “I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man to depress none. (Applause.)

    “I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don’t propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office.

    “I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so.

    “We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I’ll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand. (Prolonged applause.)”

    When Forrest died in 1877 it is noteworthy that his funeral in Memphis was attended not only by a throng of thousands of whites but by hundreds of blacks as well. The funeral procession was over two miles long and was attended by over 10,000 area residents, including 3000 black citizens paying their respects.

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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    And did you know that Forrest had many black men in his cavalry command?

    After the War, Forrest took it upon himself to hire blacks as architects, construction engineers and foremen, train engineers and conductors, and other high-level jobs. In the North, blacks were prohibited from holding such jobs. When the Civil War began, Forrest offered freedom to 44 of his slaves if they would serve with him in the Confederate army. All 44 agreed. One later deserted; the other 43 served faithfully until the end of the war.

    Though they had many chances to leave, they chose to remain loyal to the South and to Forrest. Part of General Forrest’s command included his own Escort Company, his Green Berets, made up of the very best soldiers available. This unit, which varied in size from 40-90 men, was the elite of the cavalry. Eight of these picked men were black soldiers and all served gallantly and bravely throughout the war. All were armed with at least 2 pistols and a rifle. Most also carried two additional pistols in saddle holsters. At war’s end, when Forrest’s cavalry surrendered in May 1865, there were 65 black troopers on the muster roll. Of the soldiers who served under him, Forrest said of the black troops: “Finer Confederates never fought.”

    Forrest was a brilliant cavalryman and courageous soldier. As author Jack Hurst writes: a man possessed of physical valor perhaps unprecedented among his countrymen, as well as, ironically, a man whose social attitudes may well have changed farther in the direction of racial enlightenment over the span of his lifetime than those of most American historical figures.

    The original Klan was organized in reaction to the 9 years of military rule by the North during “Reconstruction” [or as the Southerners called it, "Redestruction"]. Southern men had been stripped of the right to vote, and the military tribunals of the conquerors were the only courts. Hate them if you will, but see them as they were. They disbanded in 1872.

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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Real history is always far more complicated and interesting than the axe-grinders know. Forrest is a fascinating figure on several counts. Amazingly brave in battle, grew up hardscrabble, wasn’t one of the Elegant crowd. A real man’s man. And for his day, he was very broadminded about race: he’d worked alongside black men, knew them well, and saw them for all in all as fellow human beings. His beef was with the Occupation and the state of lawlessness and pillaging that ravaged the South after the war.

    Did the Klan do bad things? Yes, they sure did. But the original crowd were born of desperation.

    The second incarnation, no one can defend. My two cents.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    Tallulah @ #:56

    Given that Confederate veterans are considered by law to be US veterans, it will be interesting to see if anyone gets prosecuted for that.

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    LC Wil, S.C.E. growls and barks:

    Ironbear, et al:

    If I may, sir, I have a couple of points:
    1) IMHO, the loss of any of The Lord’s humans is a tragedy. No one is beyond redemption until they are beyond this veil of tears. Although I have little hope for some, it is not OUR call that they are beyond saving. They deserve the chance. While I am inclined to agree with the sentiment driving the lack of sympathy, I cannot intellectually allow the thought that someone is beyond hope – if anyone is, so am I, for we have all come short.

    2) For what it’s worth, I agree wholeheartedly with # 49. War is coming, brother. I foresee no way to avoid it. May God give us all strength. . .

    Majesty, forgive my long absence, as I have been engaged behind enemy lines. I have had to watch from afar as the world spent several years going to hell around us. I was on scene, and have a few observations on this unpleasantness:

    The PoPo stood by and watched as all this developed. My inclination is to believe that they were constrained from acting to stop the fighting before it started. Not just “watch and see what develops,” more like “stand the hell off to the side until we get an excuse for some stick time.” BT, DT, wore out the t-shirt years ago. If this can be proved, some sumbitch who ordered this lack of response, need to spend some time in the general population of the state lockup.

    The “Nazis” were peaceful until they were attacked. Assholes, yes. Loudmouth idiots, no arguments. But until the “war” started, what I observed was the they were marching, making noise, and complaining. They were, at least at the start, legal.

    The Nazis” were the only legal protest. Having a holstered pistol, or shouldered or slung long arm, in Virginia, is not a reason to take action. Or piss yer britches. Or whine. The attack of Antifa and associated fellow travelers (and I use the term advisedly), was met with surprising restraint.

    Our “Southern Monuments” deserve our actions to protect them. “Those who cannot learn from History . . . “

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    LC Wil, S.C.E. says:

    Ironbear, et al:

    If I may, sir, I have a couple of points:
    1) IMHO, the loss of any of The Lord’s humans is a tragedy. No one is beyond redemption until they are beyond this veil of tears. Although I have little hope for some, it is not OUR call that they are beyond saving. They deserve the chance. While I am inclined to agree with the sentiment driving the lack of sympathy, I cannot intellectually allow the thought that someone is beyond hope – if anyone is, so am I, for we have all come short.

    If you go back up and reread my response to Terrapod, LC Wil, you’ll note that I said nothing to Terrapod’s contention that the poor widdle Proggie twat “might still have had room for redemption”. Nothing at all.

    I solely addressed Terrapod’s contention that it was “sad”.

    As you say: redemption is not our business.

    Defeating them is.

    I personally don’t give a runny crap at this point if a Prog gets redeemed or not. Redemption is not my business. I’ll let Priests, Pastors, missionaries, and whatever gods may or may not exist handle the redemption end of things. Your mileage may differ.

    The are enemy. The female progtard that got Chargered was an enemy combatant. If she hadn’t been with Antifa goons blocking the road and beating on the back of the Charger with bats, she wouldn’t now be an acolyte of Saint Rachel of the Pancake.

    I refuse to accept any intimation from anyone that any of us should be saddened when a Prog gets turned into a corpse.

    Waggle that reproving finger in someone else’s face, LC. I ain’t of a mind on this to be remonstrated at.
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    irish19 growls and barks:

    Tallulah @ #:
    That was an interesting tidbit. I just copied it to my FB page. The feedback on it should also prove interesting.

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    irish19 growls and barks:

    Tallulah @ #:
    Very well said.
    :em01: :em01:

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    RR is alive and cryptic as ever :em01:

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Yeah, it’s kinda like debating what will kill you faster: walking pneumonia, or terminal crotch rot.

    Well..unless you know more about those than I do, I’ll take your word for it.

    And NO I dont need details.

    Thank you. :em01: :em05:

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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    LCBrendan says:

    Yeah, it’s kinda like debating what will kill you faster: walking pneumonia, or terminal crotch rot.

    Well..unless you know more about those than I do, I’ll take your word for it.

    And NO I dont need details.

    Thank you.

    Snerk.

    Never had terminal crotch rot, but I have had walking pneumonia once. That really sucked. And it did almost kill me in late 2010.

    Just goes to show: that which does not kill you gives you congestion.
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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Pneumonia twice – once courtesy of a PRC Harbin winter and the other from extended stays in Ecuador just because they both suck as a countries in their own way. That said, keep away from San Fran, LA, Twin Cities MN and any other place with high percentages of illegals, they carry every effing third world hellhole disease with them and we are letting them in to freely spread it around the nation. Just wait until the first reports of bubonic plague start showing up in NYC or southern border of Texas ( I may be late on this one, seem to have read that there has been a case down south)

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    irish19 growls and barks:

    You’re right about where to stay away from. And I thought I heard about a case of plague in the NYC area within the last year or two IIRC.

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Terrapod @.68.

    Just wait until the first reports of bubonic plague start showing up in NYC or southern border of Texas…

    A “reservoir” of plague was, I believe, long ago already established in the Southwest.