“OMGWTFBBQ Trump will push the red button”

Will someone…ANYONE..I dont care who….explain to these bedwetting, whining, puerile and utterly LUNATIC Lefties that there IS no “big red button” and reassure these Safe Space™ addicted, halfwitted, droolingly braindead imbeciles that no US President anywhere can EVER unilaterally launch a nuclear attack?

I mean really, do NONE of them ever bother to actually LEARN how this is flatly and totally IMPOSSIBLE?

I’m a dumb Aussie, a non American, an “outsider”, a citizen of one of the multitude of nations that isnt America, and even I know more on how this works than they do??? Every time I see this utter bullshit I want to slam my head into the desk until the fucking thing splinters.

Please…God..Santa Claus….Rudolph….ANYONE….tell me that these dickheads cannot be this STUPID?

*headdesk*

23 comments

  1. 1
    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Will someone…ANYONE..I dont care who….explain to these bedwetting, whining, puerile and utterly LUNATIC Lefties that there IS no “big red button” and reassure these Safe Space™ addicted, halfwitted, droolingly braindead imbeciles that no US President anywhere can EVER unilaterally launch a nuclear attack?

    No.

    We want them terrified by the monsters of their own imaginations, drooling and gibbering into their neckbeards, and pissing down the legs of their underoos in illogical fear and nameless dread.

    We want them to then put out all of their idiocies on public display so that sensible people can point and snicker, and finally see what lunatics they really are.
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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Yeah I guess…what scares the hell out of me is that I.,..a FOREIGNER,,know more of how your systems work than a US citizen does??? :em08:

  3. 3
    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Yeah I guess…what scares the hell out of me is that I.,..a FOREIGNER,,know more of how your systems work than a US citizen does???

    I’m gonna hazard a guess that that’s because you actually pay attention, unlike a lot of our citizens, who really only pay attention to or think about politics and issues every eight or four years when there’s a major election, then they start looking at the candidates and what they’ve done and paying attention to the news and events.

    (Oddly and coincidentally enough, Sarah Hoyt has a rather lengthy post on just this phenomenon over at AtH today: https://accordingtohoyt.com/2016/12/23/divided/

    She rambles a bit getting there, as she’s wont to do.)

    Another facet is something that I’ve seen Vox Day and a few others in the alt-right and right propose, is that foreign news tends to report more accurately on U.S. politics and events (at times) than our own media does – once you sift out the far leftist slant inherent in a lot of Brit, Euro, and Aussie news.

    And you may have just read a lot more about U.S. conservative, libertarian, and “right wing” history and principles of governance than a lot of our citizenry do. (Not surprising: being a poster here at the Rott, it’d be odd if you weren’t immersed in that just via osmosis, as Misha is pretty knowledgeable and writes about and links to those things a LOT.)

    Combination of factors.
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  4. 4
    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    Comments like

    You do realize that the president has sole discretion on whether to launch?

    and

    They are under his sole purview and noone can override that decision.

    This fuckwit has zero clue. :em08:

  5. 5
    Ironbear growls and barks:

    This fuckwit has zero clue.

    I blame our woefully deficient, Progtard dominated education system.

    Alternately, you might consider that: he has a clue, but he’s advancing a Narrative.

    These days, either could be true, and in some cases, the Narrative answer has the higher probability.
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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    (Not surprising: being a poster here at the Rott, it’d be odd if you weren’t immersed in that just via osmosis, as Misha is pretty knowledgeable and writes about and links to those things a LOT.)

    Heh Misha got to know me via other means, and I was already educated. I actually have startled a lot of people by what I’ve learned, goes back to BTR and other talk radio stuff. Its all there if you just shut your mouth and listen.

    A lost art these days.

    Actually I think Captain Clueless watched Dr Strangelove and decided that this is how it works. Either that or he is very young and very stupid.

    The two man rule. Anyone with half a brain knows it.

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    Please…God..Santa Claus….Rudolph….ANYONE….tell me that these dickheads cannot be this STUPID?

    Yes, they can, therefore I recommend that you give them the Tom Clancy novel which details how the president initiates a first strike and what happens when the order is declared invalid under the two man rule.
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    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Heh Misha got to now me via other means, and I was already educated. I actually have startled a lot of people by what I’ve learned, goes back to BTR and other talk radio stuff.

    Coolness. :)

    I’m an exception to the “If you’re not a Liberal at twenty you have no heart; and if you’re not Conservative at forty you have no brain” idiotic rule of thumb/axiom: I was never on the Left, nor a “Liberal”. I’ve been completely heartless since I was in my teens.

    (A large part of that is due to me being a gun nut since I was a kid: I woke up real fast and real early to the fact that it was the Left/Democrats who wanted to ban guns and take away liberties, and was never attracted to nor fooled by the Leftist pretense of being pro civil liberties and freedom. Anyone who wants to disarm me is my enemy and is not pro freedom, period, end of discussion.)

    It took me a lot longer, sadly, to wake up to the fact that Republicans were no more of a friend of civil liberties and the Constitution than the Left was. They just pretended to be.
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    MikeG growls and barks:

    You’re gonna need a bigger desk.

  10. 10
    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Actually, the concavities in the desk surface now conform to my skull, they are much less painful than when it was flat :em05:

    Then again there is now a row of them left to right after 8+ years of this crap.

    Brendan, happy new year as you are already enjoying Christmas day. Would send some snow your way but the postage is frightful and FedEx over extended. Then again, I did see snow in Tibindinbilla one June when visiting, the wallabies and ravens were most confused.

    Merry Christmas and may every one of us here have a prosperous New Year.

  11. 11
    Ironbear growls and barks:

    Merry Christmas, everyone.

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    Just Another Random Nut, GLOR growls and barks:

    The truth is that a lot of international news covers American national news better and with less bias than the American news does. American news is all about the message, all about the agenda. It’s stopped reporting news except as it serves their purposes.

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    irish19 growls and barks:

    Ironbear says:

    Will someone…ANYONE..I dont care who….explain to these bedwetting, whining, puerile and utterly LUNATIC Lefties that there IS no “big red button” and reassure these Safe Space™ addicted, halfwitted, droolingly braindead imbeciles that no US President anywhere can EVER unilaterally launch a nuclear attack?

    No.

    We want them terrified by the monsters of their own imaginations, drooling and gibbering into their neckbeards, and pissing down the legs of their underoos in illogical fear and nameless dread.

    We want them to then put out all of their idiocies on public display so that sensible people can point and snicker, and finally see what lunatics they really are.

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    Sounds like a good plan to me.
    :em01:

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    LC&IB Vulcanrider, MSgt, USAF, Ret growls and barks:

    Merry Christmas and Happy Chanukah to all at the Rott…here’s some entertainment…
    <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YSOZP_M6eM&quot;

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    Just Another Random Nut, GLOR growls and barks:

    So, not knowing anything about this point, I went and did some digging. Unfortunately, all I could find on a cursory search was the ever-reliable Wikipedia. :P Here’s what Wikipedia said:

    The National Command Authority comprising the president and Secretary of Defense must jointly authenticate the order to use nuclear weapons to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The order would then be transmitted over a tan-yellow phone, the Joint Chiefs of Staff Alerting Network, otherwise known as the “Gold Phone”, that directly links the NMCC with United States Strategic Command Headquarters at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska. It is argued by Franklin Miller that the President has almost single authority to initiate a nuclear attack since the Secretary of Defense is required to verify the order, but cannot legally veto it. However, Section 4 of the 25th Amendment of the Constitution allows for the vice president, together with a majority of cabinet heads or Congress, to declare the President disabled or unfit to execute the duties of the office.[14]

    True or false, and is is really feasible to declare a President unfit in the amount of time it takes to transmit and authenticate those orders?

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    It is argued by Franklin Miller that the President has almost single authority to initiate a nuclear attack since the Secretary of Defense is required to verify the order, but cannot legally veto it.

    The SecDef can veto simply by not authenticating the order.
    Even then the actual launch requires the consent of two senior officers for each launch site, ie the CO and XO of a ballistic missile sub. Two officers must turn keys at separate consoles deliberately spaced so that it’s impossible for one person to turn both keys.

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    Erbo growls and barks:

    VonZorch Imperial Researcher says:

    Even then the actual launch requires the consent of two senior officers for each launch site, ie the CO and XO of a ballistic missile sub. Two officers must turn keys at separate consoles deliberately spaced so that it’s impossible for one person to turn both keys.

    It’s even more restrictive than that. For missile silos, each launch site has multiple launch control centers, each with two men in it. The two men in each launch control center do have to turn their keys simultaneously, but that only casts a “launch vote” for that control center. It takes two “launch votes,” from two separate control centers, to actually launch the missiles.

    For boomers, there are actually five officers that have to agree to launch, and each of those officers has one more unusual order: If any of them disagrees that a launch order is valid, they are ordered to resist a launch by any means necessary. Each of them has access to personal sidearms at all times for just that reason.

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    Just Another Random Nut, GLOR growls and barks:

    Therefore, there are many people involved, and all must agree for the launch to happen. Thank you, that clarifies a good deal.

    And remember, LC Brendan, ignorance and stupidity are two very different things.

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    Terrapod growls and barks:

    Too cool not to share – useful tools for useful idiots (as in applied to) :em01: http://imgur.com/gallery/Dl01a

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    LCBrendan growls and barks:

    And remember, LC Brendan, ignorance and stupidity are two very different things.

    To me they are the same…anyone can go out and get the information, educate themselves.

    BTW I think you will all love this: this is from Pres Elect Trumps website

    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies

    Defend the Second Amendment of our Constitution. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period.

    About bloody time.

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    Just Another Random Nut, GLOR growls and barks:

    LCBrendan @ #:

    That requires realizing that one needs to look for it. I think you’re being a little arrogant and a lot unfair.

    But then, everyone has their issues. :)

    Speaking of issues … get this: Obama and certain members of the media are convinced that the media was biased against Hillary. :em05:

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    LCBrendan says:

    To me they are the same…anyone can go out and get the information, educate themselves.

    Ignorance can be fixed, stupidity is for life. There is of course willful ignorance, but I class that as a type of stupidity.

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher says:

    Ignorance can be fixed, stupidity is for life. There is of course willful ignorance, but I class that as a type of stupidity.

    I would suppose you could call certain agendas stupidity… :em03: