Finally

After all the hoopla, controversy and especially conspiracy theories, Teh Won™ has released the long-form Hawaiian birth certificate. He’s ‘puzzled and confused’ about the controversy. He said that while the press was swirling around the issue, he had ‘other things to do’. The man’s arrogance is just astounding. I do agree with him that there is a LOT of things that need attention and dopey birth certificates aren’t it. I completely understand the calls for this, as it could’ve disqualified him for the run, a sure winner for us but, we absofuckinglutely, positively must run on the issues. We need to campaign on our ideas and why they’re better, then nail our opponents with it loud and clear. It’s fucking time we conservatives get out there and do it just like the ‘Donald’, in your face. The polling shows the voting public is sick of the inside-the-beltway political games. They don’t like the demagoguery being used along with the usual bag of dirty tricks, dishonesty, half-truths and outright lies. These are the leftists’ stock and trade. They don’t have any serious answers to our problems and have to resort to to verbal attacks on our side. When you’re out of arguments pull Godwin’s Law outta’ your ass and spout the pejorative of the day. The public wants the real deal, honest truth without mucking around the language. We’re real good at that here, maybe the Rott should be required reading for our side, eh?

He’s been sitting on this all along, waiting for the right time to play the card. It’s very telling that it took the bombastic Trump to get him to play that hole card. He’s scared of an opponent that speaks the truth. The GOP better damn well see that lesson hanging out there. The public wants unvarnished, non-PC, full-on discourse. Trump is merely saying the things the way our real leaders should. Grow a pair GOP and use this.

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Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R
Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R

No State Seal of Hawaii, no delivery doctor listed, no birth weight of the child, and no race listed for him either. Hell I don’t care at this point about his citizenship…we’re stuck with the dumb bastard till ’12, but he’s still hiding something.

ZeektheCruel
ZeektheCruel

I’m wondering what he intended to gain from keeping this on the down low…for, what is it now, almost three years? I don’t get it. I saw it this morning and thought “ok…so it looks like he may be a bastard child, but that’s hardly news worthy”. There is no mention of religion and no mention of him being born… Read more »

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

I would like to point out a couple of things: 1) While everyone’s already leading in with “After years of conspiracy theories…” let us not forget that this also comes after YEARS of Obama spending an ass-load of money fighting legal demands for that document in court. Apparently, it wasn’t too ‘silly’ to spend more money on it than any… Read more »

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

Hyscience is asking the same questions I am, so at least I’m not alone… “…why is he still keeping his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records,… Read more »

BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)
BigDogg - Imperial Thread Killer (ITK)

It’s very telling that it took the bombastic Trump to get him to play that hole card. He’s scared of an opponent that speaks the truth. The GOP better damn well see that lesson hanging out there. Abso-fuckin-lutely! Weepy, milquetoast RINOs don’t have the balls or spine to get in this fucker’s face and call him out. So far, the… Read more »

Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R
Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R

Response to LC MuscleDaddy @:
It’s because he’s the great, almighty, walks-on-water Barack Hussein Obama. He is what we’ve all been waiting and praying for. McCain, Clintons, Palin…all mere mortals. How DARE you question the great one’s credentials, MD?

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

Strange that the VERY FIRST executive order he signed as his ass hit the chair – was the one that allows him to invoke ‘executive priviledge’ to prevent ANY of his presidential records from being released… …even after he’s kicked out of office. But hey! We’ve got a Bith Certificate now!!! Nuthin’ ta see!! Move along, folks!!! Yah. – MD

LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole
LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole

Response to Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R @: Every state has different requirements than others. There is a MD signature on the second line. Some states leave off the child’s race just for this reason, he could lawfully claim either White or Black or both based on the races of the parents. I was born in Nebraska and my weight is… Read more »

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

Response to LC Jackboot IC/A @:

“Yeah, some people can multi-task, but the Party of Stoopid™ hasn’t demonstrated that trait.”

Too true.

– MD

FrJim, Imperial Chaplain
FrJim, Imperial Chaplain

I’ll risk getting plastered by His Majesty or any of the other LCs. This is much ado about nothing. The real issues involve philosophy and policy, not certificates of live birth. I could care less about where the current CiC was born at this point. But tax policy, energy policy, the health care debacle, and the bloating of the federal… Read more »

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

Response to FrJim, Imperial Chaplain @:
FrJim – on the one hand, I agree with everything you said…

On the other hand, you don’t let a goblin off the hook for a list of fraud/assault/home-invasion & GTA, just because he killed someone later.

Everything Matters.

BTW – WizBang thanks The Donald too

– MD

L.C. Mope
L.C. Mope

I’m invoking the 48 hour rule. There is some bothersome things, specifically, The Hawaiian DoH decided that not even Obama could get a long form just a couple days ago.Then they arrange this. Then there is this: Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records.… Read more »

Cricket
Cricket

Unfortunately, a birth cert is an issue, as a US citizen should be the candidate. He spent millions hiding it. Okay, the Donald has ‘alleged egg’ on his face, but he got Obama to produce it without a court order. Does Trump get my support as the GOP candidate? No, he does not.

Cricket
Cricket

The issues are: reducing our dependence on foreign oil, and thus lowering the cost and increasing competiton. Getting the Paul Ryan budget passed. Telling Obama that his days in office are numbered; after which he will be voted out.

The more I think about this, the more I like it. I originally hoped that Obama would keep the birth certificate hidden until the primaries, but now I reckon he’s made the right call. Obama, it is now clear, is the ultimate Cannibal Troll. Not only has he strung along the right wing’s nutcase birther contingent for the best part… Read more »

L.C. Mope
L.C. Mope

And another thing- Why did he allow Col. Lakin to go to jail? If he had a certificate at that time, he could have produced it to Lakin, or at least told the JAGs not to toss him in the pokey. Why was it so important to imprison Lakin?

If this is silliness, what is going on Ofrah’s show? Seriousiness?

ZeektheCruel
ZeektheCruel

Response to LC MuscleDaddy @:
Yeah sure, but look at section six of this order.

Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked.

The next President can simply nullify it with a stroke of their pen and be done with it. This will only protect him as long a he is P-rez.

Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R
Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R

LC Jackboot IC/A says: You’ve got it nailed. We need to forget about this crap. As I said above, time to deal with the issues. Yeah like telling him to take an oil well drill and shove it up his ass and get these damn gas prices down. All it takes is calling it quits on the drilling ban and… Read more »

Azygos
Azygos

I don’t care about the BC. He has written and stated his father was a British Subject and that he gave up his American Citizenship to go to school in Indonesia. That makes him ineligible to be president.

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

Response to Muzzy @:

Muzzy, you ignorant slut…

You want a monocle and a white cat to go with all that “Bwa-ha-ha-ha”- monologuing?

“I can’t believe you think we’re worried!!! Ha-hahahaha!!!1!”

Sounds like whistling in the dark to me.

– MD

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

Response to Library Czar @:

There is also the small matter of his apparently having gone to Pakistan, during a time when you couldn’t do that with a US passport…

Questions – just questions – questions that any other President in the history of the US would have been held accountable to answer… but no answers.

– MD

LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole
LC Light29ID - The Imperial Asshole

Response to LC MuscleDaddy @:

You forgot “Magnificently” but she’s still our Magnificently Ignorant Slut

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

Sayeth president Bobblehead:

“uh…..um…..I …uh…..have released my…..ummmm……birth certificate after….uh…..this lengthy time….uh…..because I…uh…wanted to be deli…..um….berate……on this decision, like I am on all…..uh…..important decisions…..um in my adminis….uh…..tration……allah be praised”

(turns to aide and whispers) “are the Bulls playing tonight?”

Iacobus
Iacobus

I work with digital media a lot, so everyone please excuse me whilst I’m a little more skeptical until this document can be dissected to be authentic. Remember, this is an alleged copy. I can pull a document like this out of my ass and call it genuine. The time that’s passed would certainly give me more than enough time… Read more »

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

Response to L.C. Mope, Imperial Beer tester @: Because as far as I’m concerned, Lakin is a fucking idiot who SHOULD be in jail for failing to obey a direct order. He is not authorized to challenge the orders of those appointed over him over some half-baked conspiracy theory. Unless and until Zero’s eligibility was proven to be fraudulent, he… Read more »

LC Xealot
LC Xealot

This is absolutely fake. No bullshit. No bias. I opened the document directly in Adobe Illustrator (I’m a graphic artist by trade) and I found actual LAYERS in this file. That’s an immediate red flag that it was doctored. Honestly, I was surprised by this. I figured Obama, if he was faking it, would assign the job of creating said… Read more »

Cannon Fodder
Cannon Fodder

OK, next conspiracy. What exactly is on the part of that “birth certificate that is bent back on the left and out of view? Why was that done that way? Especially since it is doctored up to look like it is a whole sheet in a framework around the actual paper. That framework is supposed to take a focus away… Read more »

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

Response to Iacobus @: Yeah – about that…. (and Mope’s invokation of the 48 hour rule) Looks like someone from Jerry Pournelle’s site started taking apart the doc itself, and found that it doesn’t behave like a regular scanned image… (slide down to ‘checking for myself’) Here’s the example he’s talking about. If this is for real, Dan Rather’s going… Read more »

Cannon Fodder
Cannon Fodder

If you actually look closely it doesn’t seem official because the governor’s stamp is actually on the framework-looking part. You see the part that is bent back and goes out of view behind it, but only for about the first 2\3 of the image. Then it looks like a flat sheet fixed to merge with the real image.

L.C. Mope
L.C. Mope

Response to LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @: If being a moron was a jail-able offense, there wouldn’t be enough real estate in this nation for all the 6 x 12 foot cells. Seems to me following an order that you believe to be unlawful would be a worse crime. But I understand your point. There were other avenues… Read more »

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch
LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch

Response to L.C. Mope, Imperial Beer tester @: My guess is he didn’t give a shit about some tool birther who disobeyed an order. Being a moron is not a jailable offense, but being a moron by disobeying a lawful order is. With following unlawful orders, it’s a double-edged sword. You can disobey it on the grounds of it being… Read more »

LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An
LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An

This has been discussed elsewhere, of course. I still have not had time to look at the purported long form and the circumstances around its release [been burning weeds in the garden plot this morning] I will not comment on its veracity or lack thereof directly. But I did put this up over at PAJAMAS MEDIA: 53. Subotai Bahadur Just… Read more »

LC PrimEviL
LC PrimEviL

Ummm….this isn’t the hospital long-form birth certificate. It’s a “certificate of live birth”, says so right at the head of the form. Genuine long-form birth certificates will carry a seal, from the hospital or state, include the name of the attending physician, and carry the newborn’s footprints. As for the typewriter font, big deal. So someone dug up an old… Read more »

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

I’ve pointed out where someone has already found discrepancies in the makeup of the .pdf doc – but it has two links, so it’s stuck in ‘Moderation’.

– MD

Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R
Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R

LC MuscleDaddy says:

so it’s stuck in ‘Moderation’.

Fixed it. :em04:

FrJim, Imperial Chaplain
FrJim, Imperial Chaplain

Response to LC MuscleDaddy @:

Your analogy seems to break down at the moral level.

Don’t think there is a moral equivalent between the birth certificate and committing a felony. Am I missing something?

-Jim+

Cannon Fodder
Cannon Fodder

If anyone wants to see what I was talking about. Here is a link to the image with notations on my photobucket account.

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Cannon Fodder
Cannon Fodder

Oops! that didn’t work!!!

Cannon Fodder
Cannon Fodder

OK, the wrong image got uploaded and I changed it, but photobucket is hung up on the wrong image for some reason. just skip the whole thing. Photobucket is screwing with me today.

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

Response to FrJim, Imperial Chaplain @: Odd thing to say, really – since, if the whole BC thing were to ultimately turn out to be real, it would mean that: – He had committed fraud in obtaining a Social Security number – He had committed fraud in using that fraudulent Social Security number to register for Selective Service, – He… Read more »

LC Sir M - Imperial Tobacconist™, K.o.E.
LC Sir M - Imperial Tobacconist™, K.o.E.

Found this over at The Smoking Gun. Interesting look at the birth certificate.

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

But wait – it gets better… Remember earlier, when I threw out some links to someone who flagged a problem with the BC? Now it seems that half-the-friggin’-world has picked up on it – and expanded the details Check Pamela’s update links – definitely worth the technical backup. First The Won spends 3 years and upward of $2MM fighting access… Read more »

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

You know what else I just realized?

Out of 6-7 minutes worth of speech, there was plenty of posturing, spinning, and arrogant derision…

…but do you know what single thing he never actually said?

“This is my birth certificate”

Go check – plenty of dancing – nothing like an affirmative statement.

– MD

LC Draco
LC Draco

You know what I would ask for, since it is in a bound volume (from what I understand)? I would ask to see the birth certificates BEFORE and AFTER Obama’s supposed certificate!!! Think of the link analysis that could be done with THOSE!!

But that’s just me thinking a bit outside the box a bit! :em02:

Azygos
Azygos

Tried to get to Pam’s site and get this

Invalid URL
The requested URL “/”, is invalid.

Reference #9.17971645.1303953433.716fd

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

Response to Library Czar @:

Just used the link – worked for me (on the home machine – posted from work)

:em02:

– MD

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

Oops!

Looks like we gotta stop scrutinizing the new BC, folks…

we’re all RAAAAAACIST

– MD

Mike M
Mike M

Well, this should certainly win over any remaining skeptics out there. The registrar’s name at the bottom of the “official” long form Hawaiian birth certificate Obama offered is “U K L Lee”. No shit.

Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery
Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery

Mike M says:

The registrar’s name at the bottom of the “official” long form Hawaiian birth certificate Obama offered is “U K L Lee”. No shit.

seriously? Ukelele?

Couldn’t be funnier even if it was signed by Hal Lay

LC Aggie Sith, a goddess, only different, G.G.O.R.
LC Aggie Sith, a goddess, only different, G.G.O.R.

So he decided to drop this ZOMG-be-all-and-end-all now??

Seems mighty convenient. I guess it’s one thing to have the Rightwing look like loons, but when you start having the Independents and Leftwingers asking, it’s time to nip it in the bud.

LC TerribleTroy
LC TerribleTroy

I really enjoy the meme that this was some sort of brilliant tactical move by Barry. I got news for folks that think along those lines…. Obama just became Trumps BITCH. The average American will view this (rightfully so) as Trump yanked Barry’s chain and Barry barked. The other thing this tactical ploy accomplished is that it opened the door… Read more »

Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R
Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R

Aggie, I think he’s trying to head off Jerome (?) Corsi’s book which is due to come out shortly. The problem is, that for all of Bonzo’s alledged techno-savvy, he really has NO clue how the internet works, and how easily one can be proven a fraud. rofl.

Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R
Imperial Grammar Hun, G.L.O.R

Ack. Major typo alert…should be alleged techno-savvy. *sigh*

LC Fmwoods01
LC Fmwoods01

Anyone notice what the left hand was doing today during the BC smokescreen? Gaggle doesn’t even seem to have noticed Bernanke’s FED speech.
(Note to self: buy more tin-foil) :em98:

D’

Elephant Man
Elephant Man

I really enjoy the meme that this was some sort of brilliant tactical move by Barry.

At this point, Obongo could have a press conference on prime time TV, climb up on the podium, “drop trou” and proceed to squeeze out a huge growler and the leftist nitwits would applaud and proclaim it “a brilliant tactical move”. :em01:

LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.
LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.

LC MuscleDaddy says: Strange that the VERY FIRST executive order he signed as his ass hit the chair – was the one that allows him to invoke ‘executive priviledge’ to prevent ANY of his presidential records from being released… – MD By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of… Read more »

LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.
LC Sir Clambake, Imperial Black Ops Technician, K.o.E.

Response to Iacobus @ 27: There are a number of dissections done already by Adobe Illustrator. It’s not even a GOOD photoshop. Then we have numerical sequencing, fathers race (African is NOT a race. Does the name Kim du Toit ring any bells?), several other bits.

LC MuscleDaddy
LC MuscleDaddy

Some foamingly-rabid, ‘anti-birther-at-any-cost’ nitwit was on another site trying to dismiss the Layering in the “BC” as the result of ‘OCR application to the scanned pdf’, referring to it as ‘Basic’ and then proceeded to call anyone who thought anything else “incompetent”. Before I could even dash off my response to that straw-grasp, someone else beat me to it: “OCR,… Read more »

AyUaxe
AyUaxe

All above who suggest that it’s really no use to pursue this issue further with this fuckwit usurper are certainly correct–there is no convincing the fiddy2ers, no matter how much evidence there may be. It is sadly typical of <0 and his ilk that after immense amounts of money, effort, ill-will, good-will, and even an officer's freedom and career have… Read more »

LC Darth Scoundrel
LC Darth Scoundrel

LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says: Response to L.C. Mope, Imperial Beer tester @: Because as far as I’m concerned, Lakin is a fucking idiot who SHOULD be in jail for failing to obey a direct order. He is not authorized to challenge the orders of those appointed over him over some half-baked conspiracy theory. Unless and until Zero’s… Read more »

LC PrimEviL
LC PrimEviL

Buwaaahahahahaha!! It’s been outed!! It’s a fake!!! Item one: Paper- the green-on-green background paper was not used in 1961. A photo-copy of the certificates for a set of twins born the day after Obama shows a white, rough-textured paper. Item two: Father’s race- In 1961 there was no ‘African’ race designation. National protocols stipulated ‘negro’, for a black person. Excerpt… Read more »

AyUaxe
AyUaxe

Response to LC MuscleDaddy @: Also, OCR wouldn’t affect the handwriting, the way I’ve seen it displayed in “clip” layers. This thing probably is a forgery, but the same people who coined “fake but accurate” will continue to live by that motto, at least as long as it serves their interests. So far as I’m aware, there is no statute… Read more »

Elephant Man
Elephant Man
LC PrimEviL
LC PrimEviL

But wait, there’s more! Stormbringer notes: * The address used on here was reportedly lived in by a family for 40 years during the time of 0bama’s birth . . . “Orland Scott Lefforge owned and occupied the house at 6085 Kalanianao­le Highway. The Lefforge family, including their 3 children under the age of seven were residing at the luxury… Read more »

LC PrimEviL
LC PrimEviL

One more wild thought. Assuming that Stormbringer is correct about the typewriter in question; was the distribution system in place in 1961 capable of getting units shipped all the way to Hawaii in only two weeks, with enough time for one such unit to be acquired by the Registrar’s office? Given the internal friction of bureaucracy, it seems unlikely an… Read more »

Elephant Man
Elephant Man

Looks like the democrats and the Lame Stream Media are setting the template to counter any criticism of Obongo’s late term abortion of a long form birth certificate. This is the third news article I’ve seen today asserting that questioning the legitimacy of Obongo’s “birth certificate” is racist. Some blacks see racism in ‘birther’ questions Given Obongo’s dismal record, race… Read more »

LC Gunsniper
LC Gunsniper

Note the name of the registrar on the birth certificate (at the bottom).

:em99: Ukulele!

bruce
bruce

i think frank m.davis knocked up stanley ann and bongo, the kenyon, took the fall.his mother and grand parents were piss poor americans which is where bongo learned to hate this country.