Finally

After all the hoopla, controversy and especially conspiracy theories, Teh Won™ has released the long-form Hawaiian birth certificate. He’s ‘puzzled and confused’ about the controversy. He said that while the press was swirling around the issue, he had ‘other things to do’. The man’s arrogance is just astounding. I do agree with him that there is a LOT of things that need attention and dopey birth certificates aren’t it. I completely understand the calls for this, as it could’ve disqualified him for the run, a sure winner for us but, we absofuckinglutely, positively must run on the issues. We need to campaign on our ideas and why they’re better, then nail our opponents with it loud and clear. It’s fucking time we conservatives get out there and do it just like the ‘Donald’, in your face. The polling shows the voting public is sick of the inside-the-beltway political games. They don’t like the demagoguery being used along with the usual bag of dirty tricks, dishonesty, half-truths and outright lies. These are the leftists’ stock and trade. They don’t have any serious answers to our problems and have to resort to to verbal attacks on our side. When you’re out of arguments pull Godwin’s Law outta’ your ass and spout the pejorative of the day. The public wants the real deal, honest truth without mucking around the language. We’re real good at that here, maybe the Rott should be required reading for our side, eh?

He’s been sitting on this all along, waiting for the right time to play the card. It’s very telling that it took the bombastic Trump to get him to play that hole card. He’s scared of an opponent that speaks the truth. The GOP better damn well see that lesson hanging out there. The public wants unvarnished, non-PC, full-on discourse. Trump is merely saying the things the way our real leaders should. Grow a pair GOP and use this.

71 comments

  1. 1

    No State Seal of Hawaii, no delivery doctor listed, no birth weight of the child, and no race listed for him either. Hell I don’t care at this point about his citizenship…we’re stuck with the dumb bastard till ’12, but he’s still hiding something.

  2. 2
    ZeektheCruel growls and barks:

    I’m wondering what he intended to gain from keeping this on the down low…for, what is it now, almost three years? I don’t get it. I saw it this morning and thought “ok…so it looks like he may be a bastard child, but that’s hardly news worthy”. There is no mention of religion and no mention of him being born in another country. And, I suppose “African” is not a race, but who’s counting.

    The only thing I can figure is it provided a nice foil to keep some people wound up and looking like they’re barking mad. But I’m not so sure it worked. Sure, the left is going to have their “ha…told ya so” moment and then it will go away. And if this was his plan, why play it now? He could have milked it until well into next year. Maybe he was getting some vibe that it was starting to wear a little thin?

  3. 3
    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R says:

    No State Seal of Hawaii, no delivery doctor listed, no birth weight of the child, and no race listed for him either. Hell I don’t care at this point about his citizenship…we’re stuck with the dumb bastard till ’12, but he’s still hiding something.

    Great, just great….I slapped this up right away and didn’t see any analysis yet? Where’d you get that Sis? It seems completely filled out and obviously done with an ‘old school’ typewriter font as well.

    You’ve got it nailed. We need to forget about this crap. As I said above, time to deal with the issues.

  4. 4
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    I would like to point out a couple of things:

    1) While everyone’s already leading in with “After years of conspiracy theories…” let us not forget that this also comes after YEARS of Obama spending an ass-load of money fighting legal demands for that document in court.

    Apparently, it wasn’t too ‘silly’ to spend more money on it than any of us will ever see at one time.

    2) He’s been ‘amused’ and puzzled – he says we don’t have time for this ‘silliness’ – but it occurs to me that he must not have thought that this issue was all that ‘silly’ when he was a senator, and on the committee that found it VITALLY IMPORTANT to comb through John McLame’s (easily and willingly provided) records from-birth-to-present.

    3) He spent the entire speech spinning around a message of ‘There, now don’t ask me for the next one!’ – which I find strangely similar to the first Nixon speech – you know, when he released some of the tapes and then said ‘There, that’s what you wanted – now go away!’

    I guess now we’re all supposed to say – “Oh! Well! A Birth Certificate! I guess we’ll just drop that matter of ‘his’ Social Security number that actually belongs to someone who died right about the time The Won needed a SS# – Birth Certificate! There really IS nothing to see here! Let’s move along!

    Yah.

    – MD

  5. 5
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Hyscience is asking the same questions I am, so at least I’m not alone…

    “…why is he still keeping his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records and his adoption records a secret?”

    Indeed – seems more like that Nixon-speech as the minutes tick by…

    Ha – The Donald is moving on to some of the rest of the missing records.

    Guess someone should – it’s not like the gov’t is interested in hold The Won to the same standard as other politicians/candidates.

    – MD

  6. 6
    BigDogg growls and barks:

    It’s very telling that it took the bombastic Trump to get him to play that hole card. He’s scared of an opponent that speaks the truth. The GOP better damn well see that lesson hanging out there.

    Abso-fuckin-lutely! Weepy, milquetoast RINOs don’t have the balls or spine to get in this fucker’s face and call him out. So far, the only people I’ve seen that do have the gonads to do so are Trump, Bachman, Walker and Palin.

    I like the idea of Trump as a stalking horse … somebody needs to be out there calling out Obonzo for all of his bullshit. I just saw that Trump is now moving on to Barry’s college records. It IS about damn time someone went on offense with this guy.

  7. 7
    Grammar Czar growls and barks:

    Response to LC MuscleDaddy @:
    It’s because he’s the great, almighty, walks-on-water Barack Hussein Obama. He is what we’ve all been waiting and praying for. McCain, Clintons, Palin…all mere mortals. How DARE you question the great one’s credentials, MD?

  8. 8
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Strange that the VERY FIRST executive order he signed as his ass hit the chair – was the one that allows him to invoke ‘executive priviledge’ to prevent ANY of his presidential records from being released…

    even after he’s kicked out of office.

    But hey! We’ve got a Bith Certificate now!!! Nuthin’ ta see!! Move along, folks!!!

    Yah.

    – MD

  9. 9
    Light29ID growls and barks:

    Response to Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R @:

    Every state has different requirements than others. There is a MD signature on the second line. Some states leave off the child’s race just for this reason, he could lawfully claim either White or Black or both based on the races of the parents. I was born in Nebraska and my weight is not listed (but according to my mother “IT WAS TOO DAMN MUCH!!!!”).

    The two questions I have is:

    a. How old was she we she got knocked up?
    b. What was the age of consent in 1960?

  10. 10
    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    LC MuscleDaddy says:

    1) While everyone’s already leading in with “After years of conspiracy theories…” let us not forget that this also comes after YEARS of Obama spending an ass-load of money fighting legal demands for that document in court.

    Hey I’m not calling for it to get wiped out of our collective memories. His timing is strange and that question remains. Why spend those bucks and then fluff it off like he did today?

    What I did call for is to move on to more important shit. If this is a forgery that will come out soon and it would be over for him. Yeah, some people can multi-task, but the Party of Stoopid™ hasn’t demonstrated that trait.

  11. 11
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Response to LC Jackboot IC/A @:

    “Yeah, some people can multi-task, but the Party of Stoopid™ hasn’t demonstrated that trait.”

    Too true.

    – MD

  12. 12
    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain growls and barks:

    I’ll risk getting plastered by His Majesty or any of the other LCs.

    This is much ado about nothing.

    The real issues involve philosophy and policy, not certificates of live birth. I could care less about where the current CiC was born at this point. But tax policy, energy policy, the health care debacle, and the bloating of the federal budget – not to mention some of the Alinsky-like tactics – leave me deeply concerned and quite seriously at odds with Mr. Obama.

    Mr. Obama manipulated many of his political opponents with this issue IMHO. And anyone who plays into it does so at the expense of the disasterous results of the federal government the past two years.

    So I say move along…nothing of value to see here.

    -Jim+

  13. 13
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Response to FrJim, Imperial Chaplain @:
    FrJim – on the one hand, I agree with everything you said…

    On the other hand, you don’t let a goblin off the hook for a list of fraud/assault/home-invasion & GTA, just because he killed someone later.

    Everything Matters.

    BTW – WizBang thanks The Donald too

    – MD

  14. 14
    L.C. Mope, Imperial Beer tester growls and barks:

    I’m invoking the 48 hour rule.

    There is some bothersome things, specifically, The Hawaiian DoH decided that not even Obama could get a long form just a couple days ago.Then they arrange this. Then there is this:

    Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document’s validity.

    It’s like perfect, only different.

  15. 15
    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    L.C. Mope, Imperial Beer tester says:

    I’m invoking the 48 hour rule.

    L.C. Mope, Imperial Beer tester says:

    It’s like perfect, only different.

    Dammit Boy- Stop…making…..sense….

  16. 16
    Cricket growls and barks:

    Unfortunately, a birth cert is an issue, as a US citizen should be the candidate. He spent millions hiding it. Okay, the Donald has ‘alleged egg’ on his face, but he got Obama to produce it without a court order. Does Trump get my support as the GOP candidate? No, he does not.

  17. 17
    Cricket growls and barks:

    The issues are: reducing our dependence on foreign oil, and thus lowering the cost and increasing competiton. Getting the Paul Ryan budget passed. Telling Obama that his days in office are numbered; after which he will be voted out.

  18. 18
    Muzzy growls and barks:

    The more I think about this, the more I like it. I originally hoped that Obama would keep the birth certificate hidden until the primaries, but now I reckon he’s made the right call. Obama, it is now clear, is the ultimate Cannibal Troll. Not only has he strung along the right wing’s nutcase birther contingent for the best part of three entire years, he’s now all but guaranteed that Donald Trump – Donald fucking Trump, of all people – will be a front runner for the Republican 2012 nomination, siphoning votes from Romney, Pawlenty, Christie, and any other vaguely sensible Republican who may have a ghost of a chance of pioneering an upset in 2012. We can hear it already, on World Net Daily, on Free Republic, and even here; “‘The Donald’”? Well he don’t take shit from anybody. He kicks ass and gets shit done! Trump/Palin2012! Wanna stroke my mullet?”

    But that’s not even the best part, noooo nonono, not by a long shot. The funniest thing, the thing that will really pay comedy dividends over the next year or so, is that the more the left points and laughs at you guys for falling for such an obvious ploy, the more determined you’ll be to follow through and back Trump, because everything the left says is prima facie presumed to be deceitful. We’ve seen it already with that gormless caribou birth drone Sarah Punchline. The more we make fun of her, the more vigorously you nitwits delude yourselves into thinking we’re somehow scared of her! Same thing’s gonna happen here, you mark my words.

    And all the while Obama just stands above it all, shaking his head sorrowfully and saying “I just don’t know what all the fuss is about.” Brilliant!

  19. 19
    L.C. Mope, Imperial Beer tester growls and barks:

    And another thing- Why did he allow Col. Lakin to go to jail? If he had a certificate at that time, he could have produced it to Lakin, or at least told the JAGs not to toss him in the pokey. Why was it so important to imprison Lakin?

    If this is silliness, what is going on Ofrah’s show? Seriousiness?

  20. 20
    ZeektheCruel growls and barks:

    Response to LC MuscleDaddy @:
    Yeah sure, but look at section six of this order.

    Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked.

    The next President can simply nullify it with a stroke of their pen and be done with it. This will only protect him as long a he is P-rez.

  21. 21

    LC Jackboot IC/A says:

    You’ve got it nailed. We need to forget about this crap. As I said above, time to deal with the issues.

    Yeah like telling him to take an oil well drill and shove it up his ass and get these damn gas prices down. All it takes is calling it quits on the drilling ban and also..how about the Feds take a powder and drop the federal taxes for awhile? It’s not like that’s their only freaking income seeing how they are bleeding us f**kin dry with all the other taxes they are dry humping us with.

  22. 22
    Library Czar growls and barks:

    I don’t care about the BC. He has written and stated his father was a British Subject and that he gave up his American Citizenship to go to school in Indonesia. That makes him ineligible to be president.

  23. 23
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Response to Muzzy @:

    Muzzy, you ignorant slut…

    You want a monocle and a white cat to go with all that “Bwa-ha-ha-ha”- monologuing?

    “I can’t believe you think we’re worried!!! Ha-hahahaha!!!1!”

    Sounds like whistling in the dark to me.

    – MD

  24. 24
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Response to Library Czar @:

    There is also the small matter of his apparently having gone to Pakistan, during a time when you couldn’t do that with a US passport…

    Questions – just questions – questions that any other President in the history of the US would have been held accountable to answer… but no answers.

    – MD

  25. 25
    Light29ID growls and barks:

    Response to LC MuscleDaddy @:

    You forgot “Magnificently” but she’s still our Magnificently Ignorant Slut

  26. 26

    Sayeth president Bobblehead:

    “uh…..um…..I …uh…..have released my…..ummmm……birth certificate after….uh…..this lengthy time….uh…..because I…uh…wanted to be deli…..um….berate……on this decision, like I am on all…..uh…..important decisions…..um in my adminis….uh…..tration……allah be praised”

    (turns to aide and whispers) “are the Bulls playing tonight?”

  27. 27
    Iacobus growls and barks:

    I work with digital media a lot, so everyone please excuse me whilst I’m a little more skeptical until this document can be dissected to be authentic. Remember, this is an alleged copy. I can pull a document like this out of my ass and call it genuine. The time that’s passed would certainly give me more than enough time to pull it off.

    Remember all the brouhaha over Bush’s so-called memo? It took the Internet to prove the fucking thing was a fake. I’m not saying it isn’t, but just saying, “Ha, here it is! Case closed!” after all this time..? That’s a bit sloppy and inconsistent, especially if you just want the issue to just go away.

    I could see why ZerO wouldn’t want it released though, seeing as the cad of a father of his was participating in borderline statutory rape. Not sure liberals would care, seeing as it is they have no moral code to begin with.

  28. 28

    Response to L.C. Mope, Imperial Beer tester @:

    Because as far as I’m concerned, Lakin is a fucking idiot who SHOULD be in jail for failing to obey a direct order. He is not authorized to challenge the orders of those appointed over him over some half-baked conspiracy theory. Unless and until Zero’s eligibility was proven to be fraudulent, he had a duty to obey those direct orders, as Zero (as much as we hate it) is still the fucking Commander-in-Chief.

    Instead Lakin decided he was an arbiter of whether or not POTUS is eligible to hold office and refused to deploy.

    He’s a moron. He belongs in jail, as far as I’m concerned.

  29. 29
    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    This is absolutely fake. No bullshit. No bias. I opened the document directly in Adobe Illustrator (I’m a graphic artist by trade) and I found actual LAYERS in this file. That’s an immediate red flag that it was doctored.

    Honestly, I was surprised by this. I figured Obama, if he was faking it, would assign the job of creating said fake to competent graphic artists. I’ve never been a Birther. But now… this guy is hiding something.

    I can prove this, btw. Right now. Here are images from Illustrator with the layers intact:

    http://www.xmtech.net/layerson.jpg Layers On.
    http://www.xmtech.net/layersoff.jpg Layers Off. Obviously Doctored.
    http://www.xmtech.net/obvious.jpg Even some of the signatures are edited.

    Paste it around.

  30. 30
    Cannon Fodder growls and barks:

    OK, next conspiracy. What exactly is on the part of that “birth certificate that is bent back on the left and out of view? Why was that done that way? Especially since it is doctored up to look like it is a whole sheet in a framework around the actual paper. That framework is supposed to take a focus away from the hidden left portion.

  31. 31
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Response to Iacobus @:

    Yeah – about that…. (and Mope’s invokation of the 48 hour rule)

    Looks like someone from Jerry Pournelle’s site started taking apart the doc itself, and found that it doesn’t behave like a regular scanned image(slide down to ‘checking for myself’)

    Here’s the example he’s talking about.

    If this is for real, Dan Rather’s going giggle himself to death.

    – MD

  32. 32
    Cannon Fodder growls and barks:

    If you actually look closely it doesn’t seem official because the governor’s stamp is actually on the framework-looking part. You see the part that is bent back and goes out of view behind it, but only for about the first 2\3 of the image. Then it looks like a flat sheet fixed to merge with the real image.

  33. 33
    L.C. Mope, Imperial Beer tester growls and barks:

    Response to LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch @:

    If being a moron was a jail-able offense, there wouldn’t be enough real estate in this nation for all the 6 x 12 foot cells. Seems to me following an order that you believe to be unlawful would be a worse crime. But I understand your point. There were other avenues for him to explore. My point is Obama allowed this to go on to the point where this poor sap gets tossed in the shit-house, when Obama knew all he had to do is produce the $10.00 document instead of hiding it at a cost of $2,000,000. Obama could have prevented it and didn’t.

  34. 34

    Response to L.C. Mope, Imperial Beer tester @:
    My guess is he didn’t give a shit about some tool birther who disobeyed an order. Being a moron is not a jailable offense, but being a moron by disobeying a lawful order is.

    With following unlawful orders, it’s a double-edged sword. You can disobey it on the grounds of it being unlawful, but you’re still liable if the order is ruled lawful in court proceedings. It happened with Michael New. It happened with others. Additionally, the order to deploy in and of itself does not become “unlawful,” merely because there’s a question about the President’s eligibility to be President. My educated guess is the order came from Lakin’s unit – from those lawfully appointed over him.

    In any case, as a vet, I consider Lakin an absolute embarrassment.

  35. 35
    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An growls and barks:

    This has been discussed elsewhere, of course. I still have not had time to look at the purported long form and the circumstances around its release [been burning weeds in the garden plot this morning] I will not comment on its veracity or lack thereof directly. But I did put this up over at PAJAMAS MEDIA:

    53. Subotai Bahadur

    Just came online and have not had time to examine the released document myself. Some comments above point out possible discrepancies. I will await further examination, but have to note the following points:

    The credibility of Buraq Hussein Obama on this subject is far from unimpeachable.

    This question did not spring forth full formed from the forehead of Zeus.

    During the 2008 campaign, the issue was brought up by … the Hillary Clinton campaign; fruitlessly it seems. Shortly thereafter, the Obama campaign’s surrogates began agitating for proof that McCain was a natural born citizen, having been born in Territory of the United States Panama Canal Zone. Reams of documentation were released by McCain and the questions about him were put to rest. But that turned attention to BHO.

    A short form birth certificate was released online by the Obama campaign; and promptly vouched for by all the usual suspects in the media and left wing NGO’s [including FactCheck which is owned by the same Annanberg Foundation who subsidized Obama’s early career. The problem with that was that the form was shortly shown not only NOT to be a Hawaii birth certificate, but in fact was a fake available for sale on the internet.

    Shortly thereafter, another short form was released. Yes it was a proper form for Hawaii. But no, it was not the form in use at the time of BHO’s birth. While it had the embossed seal, it lacked another security measure to indicate validity. When a copy is released by the Registrar’s Office; it has a date stamp on the back with ink designed specifically to bleed through to be visible as a negative on the front. This certificate did not have such, and there were indications that the text had been altered on a computer. All the same right thinking people in the media and NGO’s promptly vouched for the authenticity of the second certificate. And I am sure that they will vouch for this, and any further versions that may be released in the future.

    I will wait until independent researchers not affiliated with the Democratic party, BHO, OFA, or various Leftist foundations have had a look.

    At #14 Mr. Simon worries about those who have doubts about Obama’s background fixating solely on that, to the exclusion of his policies. I respectfully submit that those with those doubts are more cognizant of the harm his policies are doing to this country than most. Just as American patriots worried about the Soviet Union did not fixate only on say the Berlin Blockade, to the exclusion of everything else from 1917 on; American patriots now are not going to ignore the other acts of this enemy of our country. This is just another front in the war.

    Subotai Bahadur
    April 27, 2011 - 12:04 pm

    The doubts mentioned include possible use of something called layering in pdf that could be used to forge items, the appropriate seals, etc. I do not have the detailed knowledge to confirm or deny them. I will agree with the 48 hour rule, pending examination by those who I trust more than the MFM and the Democratic Party. I note that the issue of line 7c on the long form birth certificate [which if the document checks out a genuine, I WILL accept as probative as to place of birth] is far from the only matter that needs to be revealed about Buraq Hussein. There are other matters that involve his citizenship being questionable by adoption or by renunciation; and there is the matter of exactly who paid for his education [ Columbia and Harvard Law are NOT community college cheap], or his actual attendance at Columbia, since no one remembers him at all. Then there is a Colorado connection to his past. He apparently has used up to 9 different Social Security numbers. One of which has been outed by a retired AF LTC here in Colorado. Using a quirk in the FOIA system attached to Selective Service, he has been able to get BHO’s Selective Service registration. The SSA # listed is from Conn. and belonged to a woman born in 1890. And no, they NEVER re-issue SSA #’s. The response from the local and MFM is not to trace the SSA #, it is to emphasize how much trouble the LTC is in. Can’t question the narrative.

    Oh, by the way, deliberatively submitting false Selective Service registration is a Federal Felony.

    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An

  36. 36
    LC/IB PrimEviL growls and barks:

    Ummm….this isn’t the hospital long-form birth certificate. It’s a “certificate of live birth”, says so
    right at the head of the form. Genuine long-form birth certificates will carry a seal, from the
    hospital or state, include the name of the attending physician, and carry the newborn’s footprints.

    As for the typewriter font, big deal. So someone dug up an old 50′s era typewriter. He’s president
    fer chrissakes, the most powerful man in the world. He’s had nearly three years to work on this. It
    proves nothing of worth concerning his place of birth, which is in fact, redundant. His mother was
    underage to convey citizenship, his father was a British Subject. He cannot be a “natural born
    citizen” under the law.

  37. 37
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    I’ve pointed out where someone has already found discrepancies in the makeup of the .pdf doc – but it has two links, so it’s stuck in ‘Moderation’.

    – MD

  38. 38

    LC MuscleDaddy says:

    so it’s stuck in ‘Moderation’.

    Fixed it. :em04:

  39. 39
    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain growls and barks:

    Response to LC MuscleDaddy @:

    Your analogy seems to break down at the moral level.

    Don’t think there is a moral equivalent between the birth certificate and committing a felony. Am I missing something?

    -Jim+

  40. 40
    Cannon Fodder growls and barks:

    If anyone wants to see what I was talking about. Here is a link to the image with notations on my photobucket account.

    [IMG]http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z278/kwikdrw/birthcert.jpg[/IMG]

  41. 41
    Cannon Fodder growls and barks:

    Oops! that didn’t work!!!

  42. 42
    Cannon Fodder growls and barks:

    OK, the wrong image got uploaded and I changed it, but photobucket is hung up on the wrong image for some reason. just skip the whole thing. Photobucket is screwing with me today.

  43. 43
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Response to FrJim, Imperial Chaplain @:

    Odd thing to say, really – since, if the whole BC thing were to ultimately turn out to be real, it would mean that:

    - He had committed fraud in obtaining a Social Security number
    - He had committed fraud in using that fraudulent Social Security number to register for Selective Service,
    - He had committed fraud during/after the election,

    And it would mean that all of those previous frauds had allowed him to wreak yet-untold damage to the United States, through various & sundry abuses of power – power itself taken through fraud.

    Never mind that it would also mean that Col. Lakin (asshat or not) was correct and that Obama didn’t actually have the authority to hand the US military over to NATO for use on Libya OR to order deloyments to Afghanistan OR Iraq.

    While we’re at it, what about Every Single. Bill. that he’s signed into Law since occupying the WH? What happens to all of those, if it turns out that the guy who signed them was never legally eligible to be the signatory in the first place? Are all of those laws then struck-down as Unconstitutional, for never having followed the very-specifcially prescribed process for becoming law?

    Seems that would ( at the very least) count as a “Constitutional Crisis”, no?

    Now, to me that looks like a stack of felonies and a possible enumeration of crimes & harm that we’ve never even had opportunity to experience before – much less enact laws against.

    So, I don’t think we really have to wonder about ‘moral equivalence’ between defrauding the government and the American people – and committing a felony, since it rather seems that there’s plenty of Legal equivalence to be had.

    Playing off the real importance of this question as ‘silliness’ is to set a dangerous societal precedent.
    If one part of the Constitution can be dismissed as ‘unimportant’ – and particularly a part as fundamentally simple as eligibility-for-the-Presidency – why not other parts? After all, isn’t ‘Freedom of Speech’ really just a ‘neat idea’?

    Like I said before – everything matters.

    That said, you tell me: Are you missing something?

    – MD

  44. 44

    Found this over at The Smoking Gun. Interesting look at the birth certificate.

  45. 45
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    But wait – it gets better…

    Remember earlier, when I threw out some links to someone who flagged a problem with the BC?

    Now it seems that half-the-friggin’-world has picked up on it – and expanded the details

    Check Pamela’s update links – definitely worth the technical backup.

    First The Won spends 3 years and upward of $2MM fighting access to his BC – then drops a shop-job, saying ‘I know there are people who won’t be satisfied with this’…before heading out to ‘Oprah’ and 3 different NY fundraisers tonight?

    BTW – falsifying official government documents? Also a felony.

    – MD

  46. 46
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    You know what else I just realized?

    Out of 6-7 minutes worth of speech, there was plenty of posturing, spinning, and arrogant derision…

    …but do you know what single thing he never actually said?

    “This is my birth certificate”

    Go check – plenty of dancing – nothing like an affirmative statement.

    - MD

  47. 47
    LC Draco growls and barks:

    You know what I would ask for, since it is in a bound volume (from what I understand)? I would ask to see the birth certificates BEFORE and AFTER Obama’s supposed certificate!!! Think of the link analysis that could be done with THOSE!!

    But that’s just me thinking a bit outside the box a bit! :em02:

  48. 48
    Library Czar growls and barks:

    Tried to get to Pam’s site and get this

    Invalid URL
    The requested URL “/”, is invalid.

    Reference #9.17971645.1303953433.716fd

  49. 49
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Response to Library Czar @:

    Just used the link – worked for me (on the home machine – posted from work)

    :em02:

    – MD

  50. 50
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Oops!

    Looks like we gotta stop scrutinizing the new BC, folks…

    we’re all RAAAAAACIST

    – MD

  51. 51
    Mike M growls and barks:

    Well, this should certainly win over any remaining skeptics out there. The registrar’s name at the bottom of the “official” long form Hawaiian birth certificate Obama offered is “U K L Lee”. No shit.

  52. 52

    Mike M says:

    The registrar’s name at the bottom of the “official” long form Hawaiian birth certificate Obama offered is “U K L Lee”. No shit.

    seriously? Ukelele?

    Couldn’t be funnier even if it was signed by Hal Lay

  53. 53

    So he decided to drop this ZOMG-be-all-and-end-all now??

    Seems mighty convenient. I guess it’s one thing to have the Rightwing look like loons, but when you start having the Independents and Leftwingers asking, it’s time to nip it in the bud.

  54. 54
    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    I really enjoy the meme that this was some sort of brilliant tactical move by Barry. I got news for folks that think along those lines…. Obama just became Trumps BITCH. The average American will view this (rightfully so) as Trump yanked Barry’s chain and Barry barked. The other thing this tactical ploy accomplished is that it opened the door to the rest of the records. After all, if Barry is now willing to show his BC, what could possibly be stopping him from releasing his college transcripts?

    Junior is definitely a brilliant tactician.

    Simple question, Barry himself stated (wrote in his book) that he visited Pakistan during a period of time when a US passport couldn’t have been used to gain entry. How did he get in? Did he violate another countries laws and sneak in? Or did he use another countries passport? Who in the fuck visits Pakistan? I guess one could go to Karachi on a hash tour….

    Since the election of the Socialist I have considered the BC issue to be just about moot (from a practical standpoint). I’m more interested in the other docs he refuses to release. I guess Im just a “crazy” (insert derogatory name of the week here that ends in “bagger” or “er”) in that I think a POTUS should share his academic records for review of performance, influences, etc. etc. A POTUS life should be a open book up to when they take office.

    Im not a fan of Trump and will not vote for him unless offered no other choice as I believe just about anyone with a pulse could be a more effective leader than the socialist. But I give Trump props, he is doing a service for US ALL. Obama’s behavior when it comes to his background is as shady as any criminal / con man I have ever seen. Who created this “silliness”? Was it the folks who asked this POS to provide what all other candidates have provided? Or was it the person who refused to comply with normal behavior? Obama asked us to be POTUS, we didn’t go knock on his door. It is his behavior that is out of the norm and appears silly (nonsensical).

  55. 55
    Grammar Czar growls and barks:

    Aggie, I think he’s trying to head off Jerome (?) Corsi’s book which is due to come out shortly. The problem is, that for all of Bonzo’s alledged techno-savvy, he really has NO clue how the internet works, and how easily one can be proven a fraud. rofl.

  56. 56
    Grammar Czar growls and barks:

    Ack. Major typo alert…should be alleged techno-savvy. *sigh*

  57. 57
    LC Fmwoods01 growls and barks:

    Anyone notice what the left hand was doing today during the BC smokescreen? Gaggle doesn’t even seem to have noticed Bernanke’s FED speech.
    (Note to self: buy more tin-foil) :em98:

    D’

  58. 58
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    I really enjoy the meme that this was some sort of brilliant tactical move by Barry.

    At this point, Obongo could have a press conference on prime time TV, climb up on the podium, “drop trou” and proceed to squeeze out a huge growler and the leftist nitwits would applaud and proclaim it “a brilliant tactical move”. :em01:

  59. 59

    LC MuscleDaddy says:

    Strange that the VERY FIRST executive order he signed as his ass hit the chair – was the one that allows him to invoke ‘executive priviledge’ to prevent ANY of his presidential records from being released…
    – MD

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the
    laws of the United States of America, and in order to establish policies
    and procedures governing the assertion of executive privilege by incumbent
    and former Presidents in connection with the release of Presidential records
    by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) pursuant
    to the Presidential Records Act of 1978, it is hereby ordered as follows:

    Heh. After he’s proven ineligible, and all of his decrees declared null and void, this one is invalid as well.

  60. 60

    Response to Iacobus @ 27: There are a number of dissections done already by Adobe Illustrator. It’s not even a GOOD photoshop. Then we have numerical sequencing, fathers race (African is NOT a race. Does the name Kim du Toit ring any bells?), several other bits.

  61. 61
    LC MuscleDaddy growls and barks:

    Some foamingly-rabid, ‘anti-birther-at-any-cost’ nitwit was on another site trying to dismiss the Layering in the “BC” as the result of ‘OCR application to the scanned pdf’, referring to it as ‘Basic’ and then proceeded to call anyone who thought anything else “incompetent”.

    Before I could even dash off my response to that straw-grasp, someone else beat me to it:

    “OCR, huh? Then why doesn’t the doc have text-searchable fields?”

    ..stick your chin out a little farther next time, asshat – next time I want to see someone put you down without a windup.

    Hmeh.

    – MD

  62. 62
    AyUaxe growls and barks:

    All above who suggest that it’s really no use to pursue this issue further with this fuckwit usurper are certainly correct–there is no convincing the fiddy2ers, no matter how much evidence there may be. It is sadly typical of <0 and his ilk that after immense amounts of money, effort, ill-will, good-will, and even an officer's freedom and career have been sacrificed for him, he dissembles that it is all just silliness and he couldn't have cared less. Of course, that's true–he didn't have anything invested in the issues–just as all welfare and affirmative action leeches never have anything invested in the largesse they suckle and defecate on.

    It is way past time for the citizens of this nation to move on the local and state level to rebuke all of the federal intrusion and all that it has cost us. For instance, it is the state officials who could and can demand a real birth certificate from a candidate whose citizenship is at issue, before letting the candidate on the ballot, even for federal positions. That's where this whole birth certificate thing went awry. We certainly can't expect the wholly co-opted, self-interested, useful idiots of either of the major political parties to vet candidates objectively. Their performances over the last 40+ years proves that, conclusively.

    It is time for state governors and legies to permit, indeed support business and individuals taking action, completely ignoring all un-constitutional federal regulation and bureaucracy. Drill that well. Crank up that power plant. Halt that housing project construction. Arrest and charge TSA and other DHS goons, locally, when they engage in physical assaults and searches without probable cause. What, really are the feds going to do about it? Send a cobbled together quasi-military into thousands of communities or attempt to control whole states. An entire state, city, or industry group won't go down like the Branch Davidians. Moreover, the present administration has shat so hard on the millitary, it is no longer likely that such unlawful orders would be followed. Nothing meaningful can be done in any meaningful time-frame on the federal level. It is too far out of control, already.

  63. 63
    LC Darth Scoundrel growls and barks:

    LC Nicki the Resident Misanthropic Bitch says:

    Response to L.C. Mope, Imperial Beer tester @:
    Because as far as I’m concerned, Lakin is a fucking idiot who SHOULD be in jail for failing to obey a direct order. He is not authorized to challenge the orders of those appointed over him over some half-baked conspiracy theory. Unless and until Zero’s eligibility was proven to be fraudulent, he had a duty to obey those direct orders, as Zero (as much as we hate it) is still the fucking Commander-in-Chief.
    Instead Lakin decided he was an arbiter of whether or not POTUS is eligible to hold office and refused to deploy.
    He’s a moron. He belongs in jail, as far as I’m concerned.

    Yep.

  64. 64
    LC/IB PrimEviL growls and barks:

    Buwaaahahahahaha!! It’s been outed!! It’s a fake!!!

    Item one: Paper- the green-on-green background paper was not used in 1961. A photo-copy of the certificates
    for a set of twins born the day after Obama shows a white, rough-textured paper.

    Item two: Father’s race- In 1961 there was no ‘African’ race designation. National protocols stipulated ‘negro’,
    for a black person.
    Excerpt from section 5,page 7 (pg. 231 of pdf doc.)of ‘Vital Statistics of the United States: Volume 1-Natality clearly
    states:

    Race and color
    Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese,
    Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and “other nonwhite.”
    The category “white” includes, in addition to persons reported as “white,” those reported as Mexican or Puerto
    Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian.In most tables a less detailed classification of “white” and “nonwhite” is used.

    Just like a demcong operative to insert a current PC euphemism into a period-specific document.

    Item Three: Embossed Seal. There is no evidence of embossing anywhere on the purported Obama
    Certificate.

  65. 65
    AyUaxe growls and barks:

    Response to LC MuscleDaddy @:
    Also, OCR wouldn’t affect the handwriting, the way I’ve seen it displayed in “clip” layers. This thing probably is a forgery, but the same people who coined “fake but accurate” will continue to live by that motto, at least as long as it serves their interests. So far as I’m aware, there is no statute of limitation for fraud; if a later administration is able to build a real case of fraud, four years of salary and benefits could be forfeit, as well as someone’s and probably several people’s freedom. Maybe. But that won’t get us drilling in the Gulf or recover our Constitutional right to travel freely within the U.S.

  66. 66
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    RACISM ALERT!!!

    Looks like the moonbats are breaking out their favorite card……

    ‘Trump is a racist’: Bob Schieffer attacks The Apprentice host… as liberals desert reality show in protest at anti-Obama campaign

    Oh the humanity! :em99:

  67. 67
    LC/IB PrimEviL growls and barks:

    But wait, there’s more!
    Stormbringer notes:

    * The address used on here was reportedly lived in by a family for 40 years during the time of 0bama’s birth . . .

    “Orland Scott Lefforge owned and occupied the house at 6085 Kalanianao­le Highway. The Lefforge family, including their 3 children under the age of seven were residing at the luxury home listed on Obama’s newly found birth certificate — 6085 Kalanianao­le Highway. The “Obamas” didn’t live there. In 1961 the Dunhams lived on Kamehameha Avenue, while Obama Sr. lived on 11th Avenue.”

    * There is also question about the type set used as it is from a typewriter that was released to stores two weeks before 0bama’s birth and does not match the twins’ copy.

    Now isn’t that interesting??

    More interesting stuff about this over at My Very Own Point of View, also. As Alice said, things keep
    getting curioser and curioser.

  68. 68
    LC/IB PrimEviL growls and barks:

    One more wild thought. Assuming that Stormbringer is correct about the typewriter in question;
    was the distribution system in place in 1961 capable of getting units shipped all the way to Hawaii in only
    two weeks, with enough time for one such unit to be acquired by the Registrar’s office? Given the internal
    friction of bureaucracy, it seems unlikely an immediate acquisition could have been made.

  69. 69
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Looks like the democrats and the Lame Stream Media are setting the template to counter any criticism of Obongo’s late term abortion of a long form birth certificate.

    This is the third news article I’ve seen today asserting that questioning the legitimacy of Obongo’s “birth certificate” is racist.

    Some blacks see racism in ‘birther’ questions

    Given Obongo’s dismal record, race cards are the only cards in the democrat deck so they’ll be playing them fast and furious right up to November 2012.

  70. 70
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Note the name of the registrar on the birth certificate (at the bottom).

    :em99: Ukulele!

  71. 71
    bruce growls and barks:

    i think frank m.davis knocked up stanley ann and bongo, the kenyon, took the fall.his mother and grand parents were piss poor americans which is where bongo learned to hate this country.