Obama’s Union Buddies and the NLRB [Updated]

In a move absolutely shocking the business world, the NLRB, with a fresh recess-appointed former Union Attorney seated by Obama, comes up with an incredibly partisan ruling against the Boeing Company. Boeing in their Puget Sound, Washington location has had a long history dealing with the International Machinist’s Association. The union has struck the facility there pretty much, at every new contract renewal since the 90s. Boeing, concerned about the rollout and production orders for their 787 Dreamliner was justifiably concerned about another strike, costing them more billions that have already been lost in previous strikes, decided to build and move some production to a new facility in South Carolina. The company expanded a facility that already houses some production to accommodate 787 work. South Carolina is a right-to-work state unlike Washington and would presumably be much more business friendly, preventing the union from a strangle-hold with potential financial ruin for Boeing. The NLRB decided Boeing’s decision was a violation of federal labor laws, as it was a retaliatory move against the union. reaLLy? Of course it was and Boeing let that be clear. They were damn sick and tired of being held hostage by these assholes every 3 years or so. The union’s bullshit bargaining tactics and resultant strikes have already cost Boeing billions and they came up with a plan to end it now. But the NLRB ruling on Wednesday put a stop to it for now.

This nebulous ruling is absolutely bullshit. The concept of employer retaliation was to prevent union organizing activity resulting in disciplinary action or terminations of individuals. The commissars at the NLRB stood that idea on it’s head to decide that anything detrimental to the union interests met this standard. That friends, takes BALLS !
Since when did an unelected government bureaucracy, clearly biased toward Obama’s union cronies, have the power to make business decisions for a private company? This is perhaps one of the biggest outrages I’ve seen from Ogabe’s administration. The idea that unions can interfere so blatantly with the highest level of business operations is beyond the pale. If there was any doubt at all about creeping socialism in the country, this is proof positive. You have to ask yourself another question here, what is making the left so arrogant that they’ll engage in blatantly unconstitutional acts such as this? This is a tactic that we’ve seen before, do something incredibly outrageous, and let it continue until it’s overturned judicially. It’s the same tactic they used with Obamacare. Do the deed and by the time the courts decide, it’s a fait accompli and any public outrage, long forgotten or actually accepted. Hell, they even have a good chance the courts which they’ve spent a generation packing, might side with them. Of course, this story will never see the light of day in the LSM, and even Fox News has relegated it to their Business network. Moreover, where in HELL is our team on this? This could be a super-dooper campaign issue and one would think one of those idiots would grab it and swing for the bleachers, but noooo…..The Party of Stoopid Rides Again.

The link above is an awesome synopsis of the case over at RedState

OK, it’s late and I’m beat so I’ll 30 this one.

To ALL a Happy and Joyous Easter weekend. -JB

“For He is Risen !”

[Update: Fox finally is moving on this issue. I just watched a debate on FNC-Fox and Friends on this issue specifically. It's unfrackinbelievable how stoopid the pro-union sow was on this piece. How can presumably intelligent people not see, that these predatory, gangster-like union activities will ultimately result in business being moved offshore. They're parasites of the worst kind, those that kill the host. Idiots. Big Al Capone would be proud of our modern unions. Idiots]

36 comments

  1. 1
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    This is un fukking believable. What is Boeing doing about it? aren’t they going to fight??? Of course, they’ve got their balls in a vise grip because the fukking government buys so much of their stuff.

    I can’t believe Fox News only put it on the business network.

    But I do see that the motherfuckers on the left have decided that they can literally get away with EVERYTHING, as long as they proceed, shamelessly, to do so. Like that sleazebag rapist, Clinton: he just refused to leave office. That’s all. And Ofuckface, who just IGNORES the law when it suits him. No one punishes them, and they never resign: like Charlie Rangel, they just stick around forever, pulling the levers of power.

    We are so fucked.

  2. 2
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    But look at this man. I saw him on Neo’s blog:

    Gary Earl Johnson (born January 1, 1953) is an American businessman and candidate for the Republican nominaton for President of the United States in the 2012 election.[1][2] He served as the 29th Governor of the U.S. state of New Mexico from 1995 to 2003, and is well-known for his low-tax libertarian views and his regular participation in triathlons.

    Founder of one of New Mexico’s largest construction companies,[3] Johnson entered politics for the first time by running for Governor of New Mexico in 1994 on a conservative, low-tax, anti-crime platform.[4] He beat incumbent Democratic governor Bruce King by 50% to 40%. He cut the 10% annual growth in the budget by using his gubernatorial veto on half of bills in the first six months.[3]

    He sought re-election in 1998, winning by 55% to 45%. In his second term, he concentrated on the issue of school voucher reforms,[5] as well as campaigning for marijuana decriminalization. During his tenure as governor, he adhered strictly to an anti-tax, anti-bureaucracy program, and set state and national records for his use of veto powers:[3] more than the other 49 contemporary governors put together.[6][7]

    Term-limited, Johnson retired from politics at the end of his second term. He “is highly regarded in the state for his outstanding leadership during two terms as governor. He slashed the size of state government during his term and left the state with a large budget surplus.”[8]

    Gary Johnson. Check him out. I love that bit about the VETOS.

  3. 3
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    (puts on tinfoil hat)

    The Chosen One and his brethren are merely trying to stop the greedy power mongering of the corporate monstrosity known as “Boeing”!

    Let us rejoice that they’ve prevented the exploitation of the South Carolina proletariat!

    OK everybody! Let’s all sing together in solidarity!

    (takes off tinfoil hat)

    “Look for the Union Label” indeed… :roll:

  4. 4
    mousseman growls and barks:

    Boeing should move that facility to Switzerland. Low taxes, not much union bullshit, and usually quite close to the customers of that new Dreamliner. Ontop of it, they can move their corporate HQ to Switzerland as well and save shitloads of taxes that Obama won’t ever see again. And since Switzerland is not a member of the EU, that solves a few more problems.

    And make no mistake – a lot of US companies have already done that, for good reason.

  5. 5
    LC Jackboot IC/A growls and barks:

    mousseman says:

    Boeing should move that facility to Switzerland. Low taxes, not much union bullshit, and usually quite close to the customers of that new Dreamliner.

    Yep. That is EXACTLY where this is going to go. But then again, if the NLRB won’t let them move to South Carolina, I suppose moving off-shore is right out too.

  6. 6
    LC fxpcpa growls and barks:

    But Atlas Shrugged was overwrought

    http://www.atlas-shrugged-movie.com/2011/04/headline-right-out-of-atlas-shrugged-nlrb-dictates-boeing-operational-plans/

    The government has essentially expropriated the rights of the shareholders(exercised through their representatives on the Board of Directors) to the benefits of their property. The government has violated any number of principles including the 5th amendment takings clause as they have removed the property rights of the owners to do with their property as they will. There is a concept in business law that the court can not substitute it’s business judgment for the judgment of those who are actually running the business NLRB has violated this and has made a decision as if the business was theirs.Of course this is a natural progression as the regime and their party clearly feel all income in America is theirs to dispose of as they will. So by definition and they feel all property is theirs as well.

    They have violated the right of contract where the board exercised it judgements to satisfy it’s fiduciary duty to the stockholders to conserve and enhance their property rights. The rights of property are intrinsic to the natural law this country is based on. Employees do not have a “right” to work where they are not welcomed and they have even less of a right to force an employer to allocate where the owner does not wish to allocate it. If you don’t like what your employer does…quit.

    The socialists claim unionization is a “right”. Where is the corollary right that a business regardless whether it is a corporation, partnership or sole proprietor to not have to deal with people and organizations whose primary goal is the misappropriation of their property? The disgorgement of property from it’s rightful owner is the raison d’etre of the the current iteration of the union movement as represented by socialist thugs like Richard Trumka, Andy Stern and their fellow traveler Craig Becker who sits on the NLRB and was deemed so radical that they could not get him confirmed.

    So called “laws” and decisions that give unions these special privileges are anathema to the concept of equal protection under the law. They are the product of unscrupulous labor leaders and their bought and paid for puppets in government. They make a mockery of a constitutional order designed to administer equal justice not equal outcome. The NLRB has made and egregious and brazenly lawless decision that is the exact opposite of justice partisan and criminal caprice.

    Just one more example of the executive coup d’etat being committed by Obama and his cabal of intellectual mafioso.

  7. 7

    To all of the above. Each post I wanted to take a fairly large clip from, and comment. That, in and of itself, makes those comments together. This asshole’s got to go. I don’t care HOW he goes, so long as he does. Proving him illegitimate would be best, because all actions taken by him would then be void. As to the proving, we’ve done that. Or, I should say, we’ve provided evidence. Now the court must act. 1 claimed fact, from his own mouth, is all it will take British father.

  8. 8
    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    If I was Boeing I would very publicly begin scouting other countries to relocate, or something along those lines. For what its worth, Boeing is involved in a LOT more that just aircraft manufacturing. I personally know of a “facility” that has signs that indicate it is a Boeing facility when in fact it is something entirely different. I know this because in a former life I was a instructor for the security personnel assigned there. And my Brother was also assigned there.

    Is South Carolina a Red State or a Blue State? Wasn’t it FDR that paid back States that didn’t support his election by purposely excluding them from certain “programs”? After what just occurred regarding the placement of the decommissioned shuttles, makes one wonder if similar behavior is involved as a layer.

    The NLRB is a fucking JOKE. Nothing more than a pro-union organization. Did you know that none of the past “rulings” by the NLRB can be considered as precedent in legal proceedings? The NLRB could have easily put a stop to Trumpka back in the late 80′s / early nineties. The guy is nothing but a gangster in the literal sense of the word. If any of his past behavior was committed today, he would easily meet the definition of Domestic Terrorist. Now the guy meets with our POTUS POS at the WH on a frequent basis.

    I’m sure Boeing anticipated this scenario, the question is how they respond. I highly doubt they will “bug out” , but will they attempt to get the media to buy into the potential for them to do so? Certainly this cant be considered a business friendly ruling and as such can only have a negative impact on our current environment.

  9. 9
    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An growls and barks:

    We’ve been talking about this over at BELMONT CLUB. My $0.02:

    82. Subotai Bahadur

    #70 beverly and #77 Matt

    This is a power grab that Mussolini would have appreciated. It is not quite Directive 10-289, but it is a step. The problem is like that in ATLAS SHRUGGED, absent a settled rule of civil law [which is what also largely obtains now in the corporate world] there is little that a company can do when faced with State lawlessness. Discussing it elsewhere, it was brought up that Boeing has several divisions; with the Commercial Aircraft division separate from the military production. If they move the military divisions out of the country; they will get no more US military contracts. While commercial aircraft are purchased by international customers, they are in fact vastly influenced by the local governments. Moving either division would mean no more orders from the United States for either.

    While there is technically an appeal to the Federal courts available; first you have to go through the administrative law judges, whose decisions are influenced by what their political masters desire. And that can take years; freezing the project long enough to kill it. If they do get past the administrative law phase and into the courts, we know for a fact that this administration is not bound by court orders.

    Thus in the end, they have the choice of moving one or more divisions to another country [which other country is another whole can of worms] and writing off the US as a market, shutting down and dissolving the whole corporation and cashing out for the stockholders [noting that either of the two processes may trigger seizure and at least partial nationalization a'la GM and Chrysler], or submission.

    This is not going to end well.

    Subotai Bahadur

    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An

  10. 10

    so who will the union folk work for when the companies like Boeing say screw it and move overseas? Are there really that many government jobs available for them?

  11. 11
    Radical Redneck growls and barks:

    Talk radio host so amazed and flabbergasted after Kayinsane calls they play 15 straight minutes of commercials! afterwards :em95:

    I called into WGAN560 radio when Mikey (the right wing nutjob) and Ken (the Democrat) were talking about the labor mural. I couldn’t take it anymore, so I picked up the cell phone to tell Mikey the truth (something the boy hates!): I then told Mikey that I had a great idea for a new mural: one of Paul LePage *SPIT* shining the shoes of the Koch Brothers! There was a moment of silence after I said the words out loud and all Mikey could say back to me was, “Kay, do you know who the Koch Brothers are?” and I screamed that they were the billionaire brothers that LePage and the teabaggers worship. Oh man! Poor Mikey! He was livid! Well, I will tell you…after my call there was at least 15 minutes of commercial and news breaks. It appears I may have thrown the fragile-minded Mikey over the edge.

    :em01: :em99:

  12. 12
    mousseman growls and barks:

    Response to Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery @:

    so who will the union folk work for when the companies like Boeing say screw it and move overseas? Are there really that many government jobs available for them?

    Depends on how much the dollar shall be worth compared to the Swiss Franc. If they want to pay ten dollars for one Franc, then yes. Else, no.

  13. 13
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    Apparently the ITW knows more about aircraft manufacture than Boeing, who now have become mysteriously incompetent. (Like Mr./D. Science, he certainly knows more than you do!) :em93: Obviously they need to hire him, & fast! :em95:

  14. 14

    LC Xystus says:

    Apparently the ITW knows more about aircraft manufacture than Boeing, who now have become mysteriously incompetent. (Like Mr./D. Science, he certainly knows more than you do!) Obviously they need to hire him, & fast!

    Deej is right about the outsourcing on the 787, it’s been a nightmare regarding tolerances and that. I know an engineer who is working on the project and he now spends most of his time flying to the out of state contractors to oversee their manufacturing.

    That said, I disagree with him on the reasons for both Boeing corporate and the 787 assembly plant moving out of state. The government has NOT been that friendly to the workers and their families……..hamstringing their commutes to work and their spending power

    consider this gem of a piece of legislation,

    They’re planning on imposing tolls on ALL the roads into and through and around Seattle to pay for an overpriced floating bridge and tunnel through downtown to replace our viaduct. Their reasoning is that too many drivers will bypass the roads they plan on tolling to pay for these nightmares….so their solution is to toll EVERY major road and rape us for more money. They call it a “commuter reduction incentive” and it will succeed, this here commuter plans on getting the hell out of here ASAP thereby reducing MY driving time around here to zero……

  15. 15
    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    They now cut corners by hiring unskilled labor that end up costing them more money in the long run in re-work. Most of the product coming out of the South Carolina plant is usually sent back up here to Everett for re-work because it wasn’t done right the first time. The same goes for the tail sections that are outsourced to China.

    Union = Good Skilled workers. Non-Union = Bad Slovenly Workers. SAME. OLD. TIRED. MANTRA.

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    But when Boeing was showing record profit-taking, they figured that they weren’t going to take another pay cut — and why should they?

    How is it exactly that Boeing was able to make such profits when they have the cost of the reduced productivity from having to have so much product reworked? How many Union employees are Boeing Stockholders? I figure you probably have a answer to my questions since you have such a in depth knowledge of what is occurring in Boeing’s Quality Control and Accounting Dept.(s)

  16. 16
    Samsapeel1 growls and barks:

    Unions are argued to be Constituional based on the created right to freedom of association. In a State which is not a “right to work” State, this is manifestly untrue. This alleged freedom of association of the “Union” cannot exist unless created by denying the freedom of association of both the company and the individual worker.

    Thus, every State which is not a “right to work” State is in violation of its citizens’ right to freedom of association.

  17. 17
    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    We are talking about an entire line that has not been certified airworthy yet.

    So much for that union “tribal knowledge” you were touting…

  18. 18
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a War On Easter to conduct. I might even have time to perform an abortion or two…

    I’m surprised you have the time what with all the ‘sooper sekret” missions to the Middle East, hobnobbing with the political elite, advising key players in the radio entertainment industry, consulting with friends and “experts” on (insert whatever topic is being discussed here) etc. etc.

    Our ITW is a regular Buckaroo Banzai…….. :roll: :em01:

  19. 19
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Did a little web searching and found this article:

    Union-Boeing lawsuit may take years

    Basically, it says that while a protracted legal battle goes on, the S.C. plant is going to open as scheduled.

    By the way:

    We are talking about an entire line that has not been certified airworthy yet.

    The 787 Dreamliner passed its airworthiness testing back in January 2010.

    The first deliveries are scheduled for the third quarter of this year.

  20. 20
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    In other union news, the LEFTWADS are passing THIS around. A Bolshie pal of mine sent it to me, all unsuspecting. I suggest that we, you know, pass on the list to OUR pals.

    “Boycott businesses that support Scott Walker!”

    Hi – These products are made by companies who helped to elect Scott Walker who as you know wants to “severely curtail” collective bargaining rights in Wisconsin. Here is the list of products and stores you might want to “severely curtail” from your shopping list and from places you shop. Feel free to press delete if this list somehow offends you. Thanks for your time.

    These are the contributors:

    -Johnsonville (meats and sausages)

    (Anything made by Georgia-Pacific and the Koch Brothers) [the Emanuel Goldsteins of our day!]
    -Angel Soft, Quilted Northern, Soft n Gentle toilet paper
    -Brawny paper towels
    -Dixie cups, plates, etc.
    -Sparkle, Vanity Fair, Zee napkins

    -Georgia-Pacific building materials

    -Walmart (big surprise…)

    -Sargento Cheese

    -Ashley Furniture

    -Miller and Coors Beer

    -Royal Prestige Cookware

    -Kwik Trip (gas stations)

    -Menards (grocery)

    Well, folks, I think we patriots can show these companies some LOVE, can’t we? :em04: :em04:

    You know, I hate these fuckers. They’re such Brownshirts, such bullies. Always ready to kick good Americans in the slats. Passing around their little hate lists, their BLACKLISTS. What fuckers.

  21. 21
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    The HarangueOutan shrieked:

    I apparently know a lot more about it than you do.

    Duh. Notice that I claimed no knowledge of aircraft manufacture. :em93:

  22. 22
    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    Duh. Notice that I claimed no knowledge of aircraft manufacture.

    DJ Allyn has, by his own admission, degrees in psychology (aka Coffee Brewing 101™) and computer science (whether on the engineering or programming tracks, I don’t remember at the moment), plus – again, according to him (and supported by Misha) a background with the Israeli military.

    It is highly unlikely that he knows much about the inner workings of Boeing, save what some of his friends, who appear to have a huge ax to grind against the company (fellow libtards, perhaps?) tell him. His “expertise” would, in all probability, be laughed out of court, were it to come to that.

  23. 23
    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An growls and barks:

    #22 Tallulah

    Thanks for the list of who to support. Some of those brands aren’t out here, but I will do what I can with one exception. I admit that even for the sake of politics, I will NOT drink Miller or Coors. Life is too short to drink bad beer. Besides the rumor that Coors mistreats the horses that furnish the main ingredient of their brew; the Coors family of Golden, Colorado ["pure Rocky Mountain spring water?"] are also financial patrons of the Get-Along-at-all-costs-with-the-Democrats-at-the-expense-of-Conservatives RINO’s here in Colorado. While the unions hate Coors for what happened there generations ago; if they land some ‘friendly fire’ on the Democrats’ close allies here, it’s all good as far as I am concerned.

    LC Subotai Bahadur, Lord Pao An

  24. 24
    lc purple raider growls and barks:

    Response to Tallulah @:

    Johnsonville Sausage – Check.

    Georgia Pacific – Check.

    Walmart – Check.

    Well, lets just say, I’m a big backer of Governor Walker, without even knowing it.

  25. 25
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Response to lc purple raider @:

    Just bought a roll of Brawny paper towels, myself. ;-)

    As far as Master Allyn’s account of the doings in Seattle is concerned, even if that is all true, the NLRB STILL HAS NO RIGHT TO DICTATE to a business about a purely business decision.

    God, arguing with these people is a right pain in the arse.

  26. 26
    Cricket growls and barks:

    Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8

    Next: The warranty issues aside (reworking of parts and pieces), define ‘profit taking’ versus profit making. You see, there is profit before tax (federal) which we call ‘earnings before taxes’ and even though you say Boeing has huge tax breaks locally, they still have to pay the corporate rate of income tax, as do their shareholders when a dividend is paid. So, if Boeing posted profits before taxes and expenses, that would indeed, be eye-brow raising. But, warranty issues are an expense, and still come off the bottom line.

  27. 27

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    (the flak I get from some people for being here…)

    You never got flak for being here. You get flak for things you say.
    That sets this page apart from many,many others.

  28. 28
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Response to DJ Allyn, ITW @:

    Wow, I must’ve struck a nerve.

    Er, nobody is asking you to apologize for anything.

    However, if you have a habit of making snotty remarks about other people’s beliefs, views and opinions, you’re going to get it dished right back at you in spades. (especially around here)

    You complain about the “flak you get around here” yet in the very next paragraph of your comment, you insinuate that:

    1) We base our friendships on a person’s political or religious views.

    2) We are narrow-minded.

    3) We are filled with negativity and fear.

    For someone with “broad horizons” and an “open mind” you sure have placed a lot of the folks here in a very narrow box.

  29. 29
    YGBSM growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    Boeing cannot afford to lose those employees …

    But they can afford to pay them less!

    Oh wait, I work for Boeing – what am I saying?!?!? :em98:

    In fact….. My brothers work for Boeing, my uncle works for Boeing, heck, my grandfather was a salesman in the 1920′s for Bill Boeing himself, and me, I work for Boeing (DSS)

    I was born and raised in Seattle. I know Boeing very well, but, the workings of the company are far beyond the understanding of mere mortals. Anyone who says otherwise is either a carpetbagging loudmouth, the CEO, or both.

  30. 30
    Cricket growls and barks:

    The eeeeevil union giveth and the eeeeeevil union taketh away. If a union member gets a 20% pay raise, so does the union representation. Have a good reast of the week!

  31. 31
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Naw, I just get tired of the stupid shit.

    Yep, I really think I did strike a nerve.

    If you were really as ‘laize faire” as you attempt to portray yourself, you wouldn’t have launched into a such a strident, self-righteous screed.

    And speaking of stupid shit, perhaps a lot of the people here are tired of the ridiculous leftist talking points and memes that you parrot as “fact” on a regular basis.

    They aren’t even original. Whatever harangue of the week being spoon fed to ‘The Media” by the democrats, you’re sure to broadcast it here.

    Was I “insinuating?’ I thought I was pretty clear about a lot of people here.

    Hey, I was just trying to give you an “out”. :em01:

    Now that it’s clear how you really feel about a lot of the people here, I’m sure they’ll be more than happy to “return the love”. :em99:

    Everything you guys talk about is couched in the fear of Muslims/Sharia Law/Socialist/Communist/anti-american/they’re-comin’-fer-our-guns/fill-in-blank, defeat, obliterate, kill, wipe out any and all opposition to your narrow point of view, and there isn’t any real good news.

    Calm down……Take a deep breath. If you keep ranting like that, you’re going to blow a gasket. :em01:

    Er, It’s called hyperbole and venting.

    It’s always been like that around here, despite your best efforts.

    I’ve got news for you. This is Misha’s blog, not yours.

    There’s no nice way to say this so I’ll come right out with it.

    If you don’t like what’s being said on this blog, then take a fucking hike.

    I think your dream of having Misha do a “Chuckles Johnson” with this blog is starting to border on the ridiculous.

    Give it up already….. :roll:

    One last thing and then I’ll let it go. (for now)

    Have you noticed that the only time you get “ripped on” is when you espouse your political and religious views/dogma?

    When the topic is non-political, virtually all of the people here treat you as a friend with kindness and respect.

    Kind of deflates your notion that we base our friendships on a person’s political and religious views, doesn’t it?

  32. 32
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    If you were really as ‘laize faire” as you attempt to portray yourself,

    That’s supposed to be “laissez faire”.

    PIMF dammit! :em41: :em98: :em99:

  33. 33
    Darth Venomous growls and barks:

    That’s right, I do have friends who have worked at Boeing for a long time. Some are probably Liberals, and others are probably Conservatives.

    “Probably”? Sounds as if you don’t know for certain. (Curious, since you seem to be my-mind-is-made-up-don’t-confuse-me-with-the-facts certain on most everything else.)

    I tend to think, given King County’s general political makeup, one can make an educated guess as to the leanings.

    (EDIT: Clarification – You say “some” and “others”. I’d guess “damned near all” and “not very effing many”.)

    But all seem to tell the same stories. The difference is that the people I am using as a source is not some ideological talking head spouting off about the evils of unions with absolutely no clue as to what is really going on with labor and / or operations at Boeing.

    No, they’re usually the “Do ya like the 40-hour work week? UNIONS GAVE THAT TO YOU, DAMMIT!!!!!“-types. The “Union-born, union-bred, when I die I’ll be union-dead” types. The Professional Kvetchers™, if you will. The types that wouldn’t have a good thing to say about management if you feted them with hookers and booze* 24/7.

    What have we told you about using faulty sources again?

    Additionally, someone at Boeing can’t fart around here without it being in-depth news at five and splashed all over the scrawny rag we laughingly call a newspaper the next morning.

    I’m familiar with the phenomenon. We usually call them “tabloids”.

    Again, see above (“faulty sources”). Apparently they overlooked the 787′s 2010 passing of those initial certification tests, since you failed to mention them yourself.

    *Memo to Armed & Aggie: shameless plug alert!

  34. 34
    YGBSM growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    …it was that eeeevil union that got you that money, why not be defiant and refuse to take it?

    Sorry, no union man here – I’m management, not a sweatie.
    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    oooo. We should do lunch.

    Well then, given that I am a Seattle native, (and you are obviously not) I could show you around the town, then lunch. Heck, I’d even treat. (You would thank me later – lunch wont be cheap :>)

    Off to keep Boeing happy

  35. 35
    YGBSM growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, ITW says:

    YGBSM says:
    Well then, given that I am a Seattle native, (and you are obviously not)
    I have been around these parts since 1949. You’d be hard pressed to show me anything that I haven’t seen.

    Heck, you would be surprised what you don’t know or haven’t seen around my hometown – and surprised in a good way. Very healthy, this “surprised” thing. See, those who think they know enough or have seen it all, neither know or do as much as they’d like to think. Me, I learn a whole lot more when I remember to not pretend I already know it. Make sense? Okay, good deal.
    And yes, it was pretty obvious you are not local. (You guys have a sure-fire method for giving yourselves away!)


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