So, Er, Tell Us Again How We’re Supposed to “Work Within the System” to Change This Again?

It’s been fun (for values of “fun”) watching how the last shreds of the Republic have been burned to ashes, then pissed upon by the new Imperial Government in Washington DC, hasn’t it?

We mean, first we get the unelected Black Robed Tyrants deciding that when ObongoCare says “subsidies are only for states with ObamaExchanges”, it doesn’t actually mean “subsidies are only for states with ObamaExchanges”, but “subsidies are for all states.”

Why? Because the Supreme “Court” says so, that’s why. They alone know what the legislature really meant when they wrote a law, you see, and it is up to them to tell us unwashed serfs what that is, even when what they “meant” (as per a handful of unelected fascists) is exactly the opposite of what they wrote and passed as a law.

And there is fuck all you can do about it, peasant. Because those elite patricians of SCOTUS can’t be unelected and, more importantly, they’re the only “coequal” branch of governments whose diktats can’t be overruled. The other, not quite as “coequal”, branches don’t have that luxury. And their diktats, unlike mere laws passed by elected representatives of the people they rule over, stand forever, because whenever another case comes up, stare decisis, that abortion of a “principle”, demands that a decision, however ancient, must still be adhered to.

Fun having a Republic, wasn’t it? We must remember to tell our children and grandchildren of it when they get old enough to not believe a word of what we’re saying.

Oh, and how about the same sex marriage diktat? That was fun too, wasn’t it? Now gays not only can “marry”, they have a RIGHT to marry, no matter what you idiot peasants say. Yet another SCOTUS-invented right nowhere to be found in the Constitution.

Next up: They also have a RIGHT to be married in your church. And to order you to bake them a cake. Mandatory fellatio will come at a date to be determined. We’re only half joking about that last one.

So, er, goodbye to freedom of religion as well. Oh sure, you can still believe in what you want, but you no longer have a right to follow your religious conscience (right actually defined in the Constitution) if it might override gays’ right to tell you to shut up and do as you’re told (right NOT ANYWHERE mentioned, hinted at or penumbraed from emanations in the Constitution).

So tell us again how just holding our nose and voting for Jeb in 2016 is going to fix all of this, huh?

Thatisall.

30 comments

  1. 1
    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    I just read something that the State AG of Texas told the various clerks they can refuse to issue Homosexual’s marriage certificates on religious grounds.

    I’ve heard rumors that the homosexuals are starting to look at forcing churches to marry them. That will cause violence. Priests, Rabbi’s, Ministers might be big on turning the other cheek, but I doubt many of their parishioners are going to allow them to be taken away in cuffs.

    Game on is getting closer with each stupid decision by the courts.There might be one unintended consequence of the ruling. It cold mean that CCW permits will now have to be honored in all states. That would :em01: mean Massachusetts would be forced to honor New Hampshire CCW.s
    :em01:
    (I knew there was a pony here somewhere)
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  2. 2
    VAconservative growls and barks:

    It was a good run while it lasted. Yep. DC has given me a few too many ‘and the horse you rode in on’ moments in the last week or so.

  3. 3
    Bones growls and barks:

    Quite frankly, I do not think that they understand consequences. If they blatantly are going to rub our noses in the fact that the “Rule of Law” is dead and now flout their “Rule however the fuck I want depending on my mood at the moment”, well, that clearly establishes that there is no reason to follow ANY “law”, since Natural Law was just gored and killed last week. Fuck them, fuck them all and my the Lord above call all of them home today and judge them accordingly. Unfortunately, that will not be done because this country has a lot more punnishment coming due to all the abortions, celebration of homosexualality, etc. There is a lot more hell coming!

  4. 4
    LC Gregory growls and barks:

    It’s not that priests and pastors will be hauled off in cuffs – it’s that individually-targeted churches will have their assets (i.e. buildings) confiscated when they can’t pay the lawsuits and that churches, synagogues, etc. across the board will have their tax-exempt status removed.

    That’s the goal, anyway. A columnist in Time magazine (which is a helluva lot more mainstream than, say, The Nation, where this clown also writes) said that it’s time to do away with that, and let the Government pick up the charity that the churches would then drop.

    Time for the Catacombs.

  5. 5
    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Sorry.
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  6. 6
    Eric Praline growls and barks:

    I’m suing Kate Upton. I have the RIGHT to marry, so she’s violating my Civil Rights by not letting me marry her and her gigantic fun-bags. And Zero better light up the White House on the wedding night, because otherwise, H8R you guys.

  7. 7
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Most of the churches and synagogues have been sapped and drained by the Leftist infiltration — the antisocial injustice wankers have turned the sermons into leftwing drivel and diatribes for the most part. The Reformed synagogues joke that they’re “the Democratic Party at prayer.”

    Don’t look for the institutions to withstand this assault. If they were still true Christians and true Jews, they would try. I predict most of them will cave right in. Only the rock-ribbed fundamentalists, God bless them, will stick to their guns; and the Orthodox Jews will hang tough. The Leftists, bearing in mind that the help and cheerleading of non-observant Jews is very useful, will leave the OJ’s alone and start lynching the poor Christians. Wealthier “Christians” will stand aside and say, “Well, it’s terrible what’s being done to them … BUT, after all, they have such unenlightened attitudes! after all, God’s mercy is available to everyone” [regardless of whether you repent and sin no more? why yes! say the spineless].

    Spiritual warfare [first and uppermost] + class warfare ["elites" vs. petit bourgeoisie] + regional warfare [any opportunity for the Yankee Assholes to kick the shit out of the South].

  8. 8
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    As the “Great Helmsman” said, Political power grows from the barrel of a gun. Our enemies have the absolute right to receive what passes our muzzles.

    Tallulah @7.

    Only the rock-ribbed fundamentalists, God bless them, will stick to their guns…

    I’m kinda non-denominational myself. But this I’ll fight for. Liberty or death.

  9. 9
    BITOA growls and barks:

    MY OFFICIAL PERSONAL LIFE-GOVERNING POLICY GONG FORWARD:
    NOTHING OR NOBODY WITH A ‘D’ ATTACHED TO IT EVER , FOREVER, EVER AGAIN.
    NO CONSIDERATION, NO DEBATE, NO COMPASSION, NO CONVERSATION, NO RESPECT,
    NO PERSONHOOD. NO LOVE NOR CHARITY.
    AS TOM CORLEONE SAID , IT WILL BE LIKE THEY NEVER EXISTED.

  10. 10
    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    BITOA @ #9:

    We’d be even then, because you don’t exist to me. :em07:
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  11. 11
    BITOA growls and barks:

    Whats a DJAllyn, MPSE ??? :em02:

  12. 12
    LC_Salgak growls and barks:

    LC Gregory says:

    It’s not that priests and pastors will be hauled off in cuffs – it’s that individually-targeted churches will have their assets (i.e. buildings) confiscated when they can’t pay the lawsuits and that churches, synagogues, etc. across the board will have their tax-exempt status removed.

    I see a sudden rise in Church Burnings. . . of confiscated churches. . .

  13. 13
    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    LC_Salgak @ #:

    I see a sudden rise in Church Burnings. . . of confiscated churches. . .

    Priests, Rabbis, Ministers are big on turning the other cheek.

    The parishioners?

    Not so much.

    I see lots lawyers and plaintiffs becoming feather covered Christmas tree ornaments.
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  14. 14
    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    LC_Salgak says:

    I see a sudden rise in Church Burnings. . . of confiscated churches. . .

    I see NOTHING changing. Same-O, Same-O.

    Look, a little legal reminder for you: The constitution is only a contract between the people and the government, and the Court based its opinion solely on the GOVERNMENT’S role as it pertains to the government recognizing same-sex marriage.

    There is already a Constitutional Amendment that keeps the government from interfering in the teachings and/or operation of the Church. There is NOTHING in the Supreme Court’s ruling that says the CHURCH has to accept same-sex marriage, nor does it force a church to perform such a marriage.

    Churches have always had their own restrictions in place as to who they will marry. Most have requirements that both the bride and groom must either be followers of that church and its faith or convert. (I don’t hear many Jewish people suing the Catholic Church because the Catholics won’t marry them.)

    Some churches may eventually open up to accept same-sex marriages. Most will probably not. Oh well, it isn’t as though a person can’t go online and become “ordained” for a whopping $11 and do their own ceremonies.

    I suspect that we are going to see some lawsuits against certain counties whose clerks are going to take a “principled stand” by not issuing licenses — and they will prove costly for the counties involved, because the Supreme Court ruling has direct jurisdiction over a government and/or its agent when it comes to their ruling.

    If these clerks were running their own businesses, they would have every right to refuse to do something on religious grounds. But they don’t have that kind of “freedom” if they are working for the government. The were hired to do a job — the entire job — and if they can’t do it for whatever reason, then they can be replaced with someone who can. The government is there to serve ALL of the people, not those who happen to belong to your church.

    Does any of this mean there won’t be some fucknozzle who tries to sue a church over same-sex marriage? NEWSFLASH: People have been known to sue over just about any foolish thing you can think of. Someone recently sued McDonalds because they didn’t get enough french fries.

    LC Gregory says:

    It’s not that priests and pastors will be hauled off in cuffs – it’s that individually-targeted churches will have their assets (i.e. buildings) confiscated when they can’t pay the lawsuits and that churches, synagogues, etc. across the board will have their tax-exempt status removed.

    There is already a lot of talk going on about stripping some churches of their tax status because they dabble too much into politics instead of religion. Render Unto Caesar. If a church is going to get involve in government and political affairs, then it deserves to lose its tax status because it is no longer operating as a strictly religious institution, NOT because it won’t perform a same-sex marriage.
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    LC Getalis, Imperial Czar of Pharmacology growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    If a church is going to get involve in government and political affairs, then it deserves to lose its tax status because it is no longer operating as a strictly religious institution, NOT because it won’t perform a same-sex marriage.

    And I’m confident that the Obama IRS, in conjunction with the Lynch Justice Department, will apply the same level of scrutiny to pro-Democrat black churches as they do to conservative white ones.

    …said nobody ever.

  16. 16
    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    “Next up: They also have a RIGHT to be married in your church. And to order you to bake them a cake.”

    Only a true fool would ever force someone to be compelled to prepare food for them against the preparer’s will, under penalty of fine or imprisonment. They’d get their cake, but eventually someone would be forced to ponder why it tasted of bitter almonds instead of vanilla bean. And the cleanup after that one would be hell.

  17. 17
    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    Fa Cube Itches @ #16:

    Only a true fool would ever force someone to be compelled to prepare food for them against the preparer’s will, under penalty of fine or imprisonment. They’d get their cake, but eventually someone would be forced to ponder why it tasted of bitter almonds instead of vanilla bean. And the cleanup after that one would be hell.

    I am already damn picky as to who I do business with. If you want me to be your customer, you have to really show that you want me to be your customer.

    I tend to make the choices as to where I am going to shop, not the store. If you tell me that you aren’t going to bake me a cake for whatever reason you come up with, then that’s all you need to say — you will never see a dime’s worth of business come through me again. I am also going to tell all of my friends about that business, and tell them to stay away also. I won’t be malicious about it, the baker has his or her beliefs, I have mine. Mine don’t include doing business with idiots.
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  18. 18
    0007 growls and barks:

    Lovely sentiments, DJ, except that the .gov has decided that that option isn’t available to white, Christian, hetrosexual males…

  19. 19
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Ace of Spades has an excellent summation on the real threat posed by the Supreme Court’s recent conduct. It is far deeper than just suing Christian churches out of existence.

  20. 20
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Alrighty, let’s try this again.
    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/357623.php#357623

  21. 21
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    The Leftists’ gang rape of Christians and America continues.

    Rush was asking why more people aren’t openly rebelling against the trashing and burning of everything we hold dear — I say people are justifiably scared shitless of the LEFTWING LYNCH MOB.

    They see how the LEFTWING LYNCH MOB is attacking across the board, ruining people’s lives, bankrupting them, swarming them online like killer bees; they see how the LEFTWING BROWNSHIRTS are attacking even a billionaire like Donald Trump and trying their damnedest to destroy his business; they see the LEFTWING STASI are intimidating even big corporations to fold up like carpenter’s rulers.

    “Live and Let Die!” screech the Flying Monkeys of the Dark Side.

  22. 22
    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    DJ “Alphabet” Allyn @14,

    If these clerks were running their own businesses, they would have every right to refuse to do something on religious grounds.

    Didn’t the Nine Bench Riders in the East just say that such would be a “public accommodation” & hence fair game for foul targeting?

    Tallulah @21.

    Rush was asking why more people aren’t openly rebelling against the trashing and burning of everything we hold dear — I say people are justifiably scared shitless of the LEFTWING LYNCH MOB.

    We can do as bad as those bastards–& worse. They should fear us! As the Emir of Glennbeckistan has said, “We surround them.”

  23. 23
    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    It’s a wonder any of you get any sleep at night, what with all the awfulizing going on here.
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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE @ #:

    ” If you tell me that you aren’t going to bake me a cake for whatever reason you come up with, then that’s all you need to say — you will never see a dime’s worth of business come through me again.”

    That’s what most non-activitist types would do as well. Some might take your next step and tell friends and family not to go there. But that’s not what a militant activist type seeks to do – they opt for more of a pour encourages les autres approach. So, some will seek to sue or prosecute businesses that fail to lick sufficient boot. Forcing anyone to do something against their will tends not to result in quality work, but forcing someone to feed you against their will? That’s the height of stupid. Tyrants had food-tasters for a reason.

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    Fa Cube Itches growls and barks:

    LC Xystus @ #:

    As the Emir of Glennbeckistan has said, “We surround them.”

    That’s not always an advantage – Bastogne and Rorke’s Drift come to mind

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    angrywebmaster growls and barks:

    I’m going to hijack the topic. A true hero passed away the other day. Sir Nicholas Winton, who saved the lives of over 600 Jewish children just prior to WW2, passed away in England. He was 106.

    Please pause in your remarks and reflect on the passing of a truly great man.
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  27. 27
    LC Robohobo growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE @ #:
    Oregon bakery owners to pay $135,000 to gay couple and lose their right to free speech

    THIS puts paid to your comment. They will either force you or force you out of business. Sorry, DJ, seel that to someone dumber than around here.

  28. 28
    DJ Allyn, MPSE growls and barks:

    LC Robohobo says:

    THIS puts paid to your comment. They will either force you or force you out of business. Sorry, DJ, seel that to someone dumber than around here.

    Do you subscribe to the “State’s Right” argument? If so, then the state of Oregon has some pretty specific laws dealing with discrimination.
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    watchyerlane growls and barks:

    I do support the state’s right on that, DJ. So in turn, you should be into South Carolina flying the Southern Cross where ever they damn well please and no Yankee lib can say shit about it.
    DJ, it is nice to say how folks will choose to shop elsewhere and tell their family about these discriminatory businesses but the fact is the extreme left is at war and looking to settle scores.
    You can choose to act like the ROTC kid at the end of Animal House telling us to be calm and all is well but we both know that is bullshit.
    Folks say to keep our eyes on the real target in regards to Obama and not buy into these “false flag” issues like gay marriage but like my screen name “Watchyerlane”, Fort Benning taught me how to acquire and engage multiple targets.

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    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    DJ Allyn, MPSE says:

    Do you subscribe to the “State’s Right” argument? If so, then the state of Oregon has some pretty specific laws dealing with discrimination.

    States can’t override the Bill of Rights. In this case, specifically the 1st Amendment. At least, it used to be they couldn’t.

    So your argument is invalid.
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