Trump 2012?

The “Donald” is no doubt, going to be a hot topic over the months leading up to ’12. I expect we’ll have a lot of good rottie-style discussions on these pages in the interim. I certainly have a strong opinion about him and the potential consequences of his bid. However, I don’t have the time today to get a solid post up. For the record, I’m with Mark Levin on this one. Have a listen to the clip below, Mark is on fire !!

With that said, I found a fairly good piece over at the American Spectator blog about Trump: Trump in ’07: Bush Should Talk to Ahmadinejad

I’ll toss it out for a starter piece as a mid-week OPEN THREAD.

Have fun and let the games begin !!

-Carry On

35 comments

  1. 1

    Anything that gives the US leverage bug them.
    In business, how do ya set up a non-loser deal? You use leverage. The bigger, the better.
    Here’s some leverage!

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    The Donald will be who the LSM pushes as the GOP candidate .. only until he gets the nomination, and then they will beat him to death for being a billionaire and having no experience.

  3. 3
    LC ShadowFox growls and barks:

    As always Mark is a tactical nuke of truth. Damn I wish they carried his show here! Trump is a joke and he’s not running. He’s getting the most effective free advertising he’s ever had and promoting his f-ing tv show. He needs to be combed over to the sidelines.

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    Gladiator growls and barks:

    Actually, IMHO, Trump would be better than Mccain, Dole, and the current crop of GOP misfits. But I will vigourously support ANYONE BUT OBAMA

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    lc purple raider growls and barks:

    Bolton/Jindal 2012! No others need apply.

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    FrJim, Imperial Chaplain growls and barks:

    It’s 2011 and a morally challenged real estate mogul is considered a serious candidate to be the President of the United States.

    Oh, and if nominated as the party’s nominee, he will be running against a man whose only real job before becoming a state senator (and then a one-term Senator from Illinois) was as a “community organizer.”

    Yes, Trump or Obama in the same group as Reagan, Lincoln, Washington, Madison, Jefferson, and Adams.

    Who says God doesn’t have a sense of humor…

    -Jim+

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    Samsapeel1 growls and barks:

    I definitely agree with Levin. I’ve actually been stunned by the support Trump is getting from people who I had thought were “conservatives”. Most of all, I can no longer listen to Rush fellate his golf buddy. Over the years, I’ve disagreed with Rush on any number of things; but nothing has made me doubt Limbaugh’s dedication to conservatism like his whitewashing of The Donald has.

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    LC LucysDaddy--Imperial Tire Provider growls and barks:

    Totally agree with The Great One here. Trump is a fraud. I have never thought he was a “conservative” and by telling a true conservative to “sit back and relax”, he is pushing me away further than he already had before.

    I agree with Fr. Jim…God is definitely laughing Himself silly right now. Of course if He didn’t laugh, He would cry.

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    KArnold growls and barks:

    Many of the candidates in this season’s GOP crop need to be sorted into categories of “flawed,” “deeply flawed,” and “this one I can work with.” Trump’s record make it clear that unless he’s had a Damascus Road moment, he’s a statist – albeit a pro-billionaire statist. He’s on the wrong side of far too many issues for me. The same goes for Huckabee, Romney, McCain (oh yeah, we’re going to be hearing from him again, bet on it), and the current iteration of Gingrich.

    Confession: my candidate last go-round was Fred. You’re welcome to draw whatever conclusions from that as come to mind.

    There are no perfect candidates – Christie has a record as a gun-grabber, for example. Some of the candidates I like are short on experience (though that didn’t get in the way of Sir Golfsalot, did it?), and some I like have already announced they aren’t running. Short list? In no particular order: Bachmann, Palin, West, Jindal, Bolton, Rubio, Christie, several others. Any of these I could support enthusiastically. What I down want is the left-wing media picking our candidate for us by pronouncing him “reasonable” and “electable” and then savaging him after the primary is over (I’m looking at YOU, Maverick!). Letting the media pick our candidate is like letting the Broncos pick the Parkers’ starting lineup on game day. Only fools let the opposition pick the champion they want to face in battle. You don’t do a lot of winning that way.

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    Lc ORWN engine builder for Rottie Racing growls and barks:

    KArnold says:

    He’s on the wrong side of far too many issues for me. The same goes for Huckabee, Romney, McCain (oh yeah, we’re going to be hearing from him again, bet on it), and the current iteration of Gingrich.

    Agree completely, unfortunatly Iowa ( read Ethanol subsidies) And New Hampshire, pretty much pick the nominee, so we are gonna get a squishy, go-along-to-get-along, moderate, N.E. liberal rino, Washington insider, (Gingrich, Romney I am looking right at ya) instead of someone with a backbone like West, Cain, Palin, Bachmann.

    Sad the Sarah and Michelle have more balls the the rest of the fuckin assclown Rinos do

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    KArnold growls and barks:

    Gary Johnson, former governor of New Mexico, formally announced his candidacy today. Anyone care to voice a strong opinion – including anyone from his state? The usual suspects are branding him a “loony teabagger,” so he’s got that in his favor…

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    Madam President growls and barks:

    Samsapeel1 says:

    I definitely agree with Levin. I’ve actually been stunned by the support Trump is getting from people who I had thought were “conservatives”. Most of all, I can no longer listen to Rush fellate his golf buddy. Over the years, I’ve disagreed with Rush on any number of things; but nothing has made me doubt Limbaugh’s dedication to conservatism like his whitewashing of The Donald has.

    I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks this way! Lately, I’ve noticed Limbaugh either deflects questions about Trump’s more than dubious loyalties, or gives timid, lukewarm comments about the guy (I’m paraphrasing here) “Yeah..that’s not very..conservative. BUT MAN, IS HE MAKING THE DRIVE-BYS CRAZY! HE-HE-HE! OBAMA IS AFRAID OF TRUMP. SOME PEOPLE ARE KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT YOUR DONATIONS TO REID. SO, YOU CAN MANIPULATE THEM BECAUSE YOU’RE FRIENDS WITH DEMOCRATS?”

    His latest interviews of Trump have been absolute JOKES! The dude was throwing sacks of cotton candy and sunshine at the guy! WHERE WERE THE HARD QUESTIONS? Not even ONE! Limbaugh let that slick, ingratiating ass sell his ration of shit to millions of listeners who are desperately longing for a dauntless, CONSERVATIVE leader with rock solid principles that isn’t afraid to bloody up some noses (and Trump is obviously the antithesis of this..with the exception of being aggressive. Remember how he pwnd Rosie O’Donnell?). Unfortunately, I think many people that tend to lean to the Right, but may not follow politics or read up on people as voraciously as us are buying into this gutter snipe hook, line and sinker. I can’t tell you how many popular right-wing websites or even local websites have members posting TRUMP/PALIN 2012! PALIN/TRUMP 2012!! TRUMP/WEST 2012!! at the end of their posts, or firmly stating they’d vote for such abysmal tickets. Christ on a pogo stick, people! How badly do you want this country to sink into irretrievable depths?! Why not interview more viable TRUE conservative candidates (Herman Cain, for example)?

    Don’t get me wrong, Rush fans. Now, I may not like the guy as much as I used to, and I prefer Boortz and Rusty Humphries over him at times, but I was (literally) listening to the man when I was holed up in my mother’s estrogenical bastille with my twin brother. Hell, you might as well say he was a prenatal vitamin for us! I remember receiving my first political lesson from my dad when I was DAMN young about presidential primaries, and Slick Willy’s pot-smoking, draft dodging cowardice (that was a fun car ride). In high school, I would listen to him covertly with my pen radio, hiding the wired headphones with my hair flowing like a field of sexy (brown) wheat.

    But I digress. The fact that a man with as much power and influence as Rush Limbaugh is indirectly shielding this shyster, and not exposing him for what he is speaks volumes to me, ESPECIALLY when listeners call the show and practically tongue bathe Trump’s balls raw, and Limbaugh does NOTHING to refute or challenge these statements. NOTHING. Does he realize how much legitimacy he’s giving him by holding his tongue?

    Sorry for the TL;DR response, but I’m super passionate as FUCK about this. :em04:

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    (Sets Wayback Machine to 2004 )
    Hey look, a proud son of kenya is going to run for senate,,
    That must’ve been before he was from Hawaii.

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Response to LC Cheapshot911, Dept. of Redneck Tech @:

    I’m sure the moonbat response would be something like:

    “Er, uh…..he was born in town of Kenyan, Hawaii which was located at the base of the Mona Loa volcano and it was buried during one of the volcanic eruptions which would explain why nobody can find his birth certificate since it burned up along with all of the other town records and archives under a river of flowing lava!”

    :em69:

  15. 15
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    If the Vince McMahon of modern politics actually wins the Republican nod and 2012 Presidential election is jugears Vs. combover…

    …I’ll back a military coup.

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    LC Spare Parts growls and barks:

    The Donald’s mission is prevention of any Conservative getting on the Republican ticket. Should he actually get nominated, his VP will be Mayor Bloomberg. Prepare for the worst.

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    LC Rabidfox growls and barks:

    Someone should get a screen shot of that Kenyan article before it disappears. (I’d do it but I don’t know how.

    Trump is popular because he is saying things publically and in such a way that can’t be ignored that a lot of folks have been saying privately. Once other candidates learn that they won’t be struck by lightening if they ask the inconvenient questions, Trumps popularity will drop as we learn more and more about his other positions.

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    LC TerribleTroy growls and barks:

    LC Gunsniper says:

    If the Vince McMahon of modern politics actually wins the Republican nod and 2012 Presidential election is jugears Vs. combover…

    …I’ll back a military coup.

    “Vince McMahon” :em01:

    Trump is just another power monger, although I must admit I am entertained by his WTF?? stance on Obama’s Birth Certificate. Other than that I am not a fan. Worst thing about it, none of the “candidates” so far impress me at all. Half of them are retreads, the other half somewhat unknown (on a national level) The BEST I can say about them safely is that none of the “conservative” candidates are socialist, muslim loving, community organizers. Which at this point, is a real plus.

    Here’s a nightmare thought I had …Whats to stop Obama from running again in 2016 if he loses 2012?

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    Teufelhunden_JD growls and barks:

    Trump and Palin are great, they draw fire from the legitimate candidates and make the media look like asshats. It’s like having a guerrilla smear campaign that runs itself, you just turn the Trump/Palin ticket loose and watch the media implode in helpless rage. Then nominate your real candidate, who the media has been ignoring instead of doing hit-pieces on. In the meantime, Trump/Palin are able to take shots at Obama that no “legitimate” contender could get away with without being torn to shreds.

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    VonZorch Imperial Researcher growls and barks:

    LC Rabidfox says:

    Someone should get a screen shot of that Kenyan article before it disappears. (I’d do it but I don’t know how.

    Done. It’s simple to do, click on the link, once the page has loaded click on “save as” in the file menu.

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    Library Czar growls and barks:

    Seriously? The man isn’t seriously running. He is just a modern-day PT Barnum, and he is no different than any of the other clowns who are just trying to feather their resume by making the attempt to run.

    You mean like McCain?

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    Samsapeel1 growls and barks:

    Madam President says:

    Limbaugh does NOTHING to refute or challenge these statements. NOTHING. Does he realize how much legitimacy he’s giving him by holding his tongue?

    The funny thing is, as Levin and Limbaugh are good friends, it was most likely Rush’s ass-kissing of his new BFF Donald that inspired Levin’s thumping of Trump a few days later. I can even imagine Levin puking in his mouth listening to the part of Limbaugh’s show where he actually defended Trump’s crony capitalism, bribes, graft (whatever you want to call it) as “just the way business gets done”. I almost lost my lunch at that point, too. It was basically the first time Rush addressed Trump’s new “birther” clothes — and it only got worsee from there. I would have loved to have heard the conversation between Rush and Levin about Rush’s indefensible defense of Trump.

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    Tallulah growls and barks:

    I say, Cheer Trump on when he attacks the Zero. But don’t get behind him as our candidate: he’s just using us like that effwad BLOOMBERG did. IOW, NOT a conservative.

    BUT useful in his way: his chief value is that he’s showing the pusillanimous ones that it IS possible to attack O-Bumfuk and Live. :em58: :em58: :em58:

    BTW, go see Atlas Shrugged. I saw it today and thought they did a damned good job of it. It really does have the production values of a feature with 10 times the budget; the actors were very good, and BEST of all, it was an actual movie espousing our love of individual liberty. :em58:

    When was the last time you had THAT experience in the theater?

  24. 24
    Tallulah growls and barks:

    Response to LC ShadowFox @:
    Mark Levin can be heard on his website, rebroadcasting his show around the clock. Enjoy!

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    McCain actually thought he could win — and he probably should have. Back in 2000.

    Still bitter after all these years, are we? :em01:

    I googled “McCain Bush 2000” and got a litany of lamentation from various liberal moonbat websites about the “evil doin’s” of the diabolical Karl Rove.

    Lots of squealing about “smear campaigns” and the like….. :em01:

    I find it hilarious that when democrats engage in “smear campaigns” against an opponent, it’s either ignored or lauded as “tough, hard nosed politics”.

    If a republican engages in the same behavior, the gnashing of teeth and wailing is deafening.

    I’ve always suspected the ongoing leftist fantasy has been that if McCain had won the GOP primary instead of Bush, the GoreBot’s blatant attempt to steal the 2000 election would have succeeded.

    Given “The Maverick’s” penchant of giving the “reach around” to any democrat within range reaching across the aisle, they assume he would have “thrown in the towel in the spirit of bipartisanship” rather than fight.

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    Let Trump blow his wad kicking Obamaramadingdong in the ass for awhile. If nothing else it’s great entertainment value watching the mediots giving themselves atomic wedgies making fun of him. The longer he’s out there throwing spitballs at Teh Won, the more likely we’re going to see Mr. Hopey Chagitude having a major ass temper tantrum on national television.

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    Grammar Czar growls and barks:

    Lady M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper G.L.O.R says:

    the more likely we’re going to see Mr. Hopey Chagitude having a major ass temper tantrum on national television.

    Maybe not on national television yet, but the spoiled brat who resides in the WH has already started his hissy fits:
    From the WSJ

    Obama’s Likability Gap: Obama today is different than the 2008 candidate.

    And the true Obama:

    Obama.2011 has been something else—testy, petulant, impatient, arrogant and increasingly a divider.

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    A bit OT but since McLame was mentioned, apparently the “maverick” thinks of the Libyan rebels as heroes.

    This is what passes for a hero to the doddering old jackass from Arizona.

    But, at least the rebels haven’t waterboarded anyone because that would be torture.

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    LC Gunsniper says:

    A bit OT but since McLame was mentioned, apparently the “maverick” thinks of the Libyan rebels as heroes.

    I’m increasingly convinced that McCain is actually Jimmah Cahtah in disguise. Has anyone ever seen the two of them together in the same room? Someone needs to set a rabid bunny loose and see if McCain runs screaming like a little girl.

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    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    Yikes, more from McCain’s Heroes. WARNING: Graphic Video

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    Gladiator growls and barks:

    If the GOP loses in 2012 and 0 wins a second term, don’t blame Trump, blame the GOP. We gave the GOP a big majority in the House in 2010, and what did we get? A sham agreement on a 2011 budget that was the responsibility of the Dem Congress and POTUS. Now, it looks like the debt ceiling will be raised, when the GOP has TOTAL control over stopping it! Ryan’s budget make noise in the right direction, but it doesn’t balance anything until 2040!?! Why can’t the GOP balance the budget NOW? Why does the GOP agree that we need to spend 1+ trillion (with a T) more than we take in next year? It is business as usual. The Dems are racing headlong to a communist state-controlled economy, and the GOP is willing to keep things “status quo”. Both parties have a “ruling class” mentality.

    That’s how Mitt and Huck are at the top of GOP polls right now. If we do not get a different kind of repub nominee for 2012, it will be curtains for our country. Mitt, Huck, Newt…none will reverse this statist course.

    The Donald is beginning to remind me of various characters from history. Many of our Founding Fathers were the wealthy people of the day and the British crown was basically draining their wealth and control over their lives. The Founding Fathers knew how to use words effectively – maybe Donald is calling us to action like Patrick Henry did with his unforgettable words:
    “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!”

    Make no mistake about it, Obama and his thugs are as repressive and draining of our wealth as the British King was in Colonial Days. Obama is not only confiscating our wealth but also our hard-won freedom and liberty. Forbid it Almighty God!

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    Cricket growls and barks:

    @ Madame President.

    Ditto. I quit listening to Rush a while ago for about the same reasons. If his show is about conservative studies, and principles, and issues, then make it about those issues and principles. Donald Trump will never back a loser, which is why he donates to everyone in the Democratic Party. He also needs favors, and they are the party in power now. The house always wins.

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    YGBSM growls and barks:

    I can’t make this stuff up.

    Apparently this day is known to some as…Earth Day(?) Anyhoo. I am a volunteer at a charity on a local navy base and this afternoon the phone rang. It was the base recycling manager apologizing for being unable to pick up our office’s recylables.

    And the reason?

    It’s Earth Day.

    Yep, to quote the recycling office, they are “too busy to make their weekly pick-ups on account of ongoing Earth Day related events. When I mentioned our paper bin was overflowing, and that that condition was predicated on them doing their weekly rounds, they recommended we simply throw out the excess papers. :em01:

    The only thing I like about liberal ideas are that the jokes just write themselves.

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    Samsapeel1 growls and barks:

    Gladiator says:

    Many of our Founding Fathers were the wealthy people of the day and the British crown was basically draining their wealth and control over their lives. The Founding Fathers knew how to use words effectively – maybe Donald is calling us to action like Patrick Henry did with his unforgettable words:
    “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give me Liberty, or give me Death!”

    While I don’t know that that’s what Trump is saying, still it puts me in mind of another quote by a long ago precursor to our Founders and their principles:

    But what more oft in Nations grown corrupt,
    And by their vices brought to servitude,
    Than to love Bondage more than Liberty,
    Bondage with ease than strenuous Liberty;

    –John Milton, Samson Agonistes, 1671

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    LC Xystus growls and barks:

    The ITW:

    Better yet, try this on for a nightmare for you:

    Bill Clinton and Barack Obama named to the US Supreme Court by President Bernie Sanders in 2018.

    After the Northeast secedes to form East Nannystan.