Reason #134,665 Why Unions Should be Outlawed

Behold the story of a 75-year-old teacher who has been collecting full pay for 13 years because the schools can’t fire him. He’s union, after all.

Now, I can see keeping him on suspension with pay while the charges of child molestation against him were being dealt with and I will be the first to admit that I find it a mite strange that he, after the charges were dropped, still wasn’t allowed to teach, but what I don’t see is the sense in the school being forced to keep him on the payroll.

It certainly doesn’t help that school in hiring teachers who can teach Johnny to read.

Thatisall.

8 comments

  1. 1
    sleeper bloviates:

    We don’t need to outlaw unions, just stop entering into contracts with them.

    We will also need to appropriately prosecute illegal behavior frequently utilized by unions and their members to coerce others to conform to their will.

    And since I’ve never been in a union and I’m too lazy to look it up, are there actually laws that require an employer to enter into a union contract against his will?

    And lastly, First. Heh.

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    americanexpat bloviates:

    Let’s see if I’ve got this right: teacher is accused of molesting girl. Teacher is suspended and charged with felony. Charges later dropped on technicality (no further explanation), but teacher is not permitted back into the classroom. So, for last 13 years, teacher has been pulling down 100k per year for sitting on his ass at home. Here’s what I’m curious about: What part of the union’s contract stipulates that a teacher in his situation can’t be fired? Yeah, the union got a sweetheart deal, but I also blame the school board/administrators that agreed to it.

    Sleeper, whether you have to join a union or not depends on the state you’re working in, and the industry. The right-to-work states, where you can’t be forced to join a union, are in the south, the Great Plains, and parts of the southwest. The “union shop” states, where you can be compelled to join a union in order to continue your employment, are in the northeast, parts of the Midwest, and the Pacific states, including Alaska and Hawaii. In general, RTW states tend to be “red” states, union shop states tend to be “blue”. I’ll let you draw your own conclusions from that.

  3. 3
    americanexpat bloviates:

    Sleeper, further to your comment, the basic answer to your actual question (that I should have read more closely the first time) is yes. Workers have the right to form and join unions, that’s part of federal law. If they choose a union to represent them in collective bargaining, the company has to suck it up. Of course, in RTW states, employees cannot be forced to join a union to work or continue to work. And employees can “decertify” their union, i.e., declare in a referendum that the union no longer represents them, in any state. But that’s the option of the employees, not the company.

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  5. 5
    Library Czar bloviates:

    americanexpat

    Alaska is a RTW state however if you choose not to join the union you still must pay union dues. In my case it was 2 1/2% of gross to the IBEW. I asked them what I was getting for my money and they said they hire a lot of lawyers. Of course they would not defend me because I was not a union member even though I was paying for them.

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    sleeper bloviates:

    Response to americanexpat @:
    Huh.

    I think I heard something about the Missouri legislature considering passing right to work legislation in the next session. I think it failed back in the ’70s.

    Forced union membership sounds a lot like being coerced into a contract. I doubt there’s enough brown party liquor in the world to make me accept an explanation of how that is constitutional.

    Which reminds me….DJ, do you have any Unknown Hinson in that jukebox thingy?

  7. 7
    LC Random Numbers bloviates:

    Library Czar said the following:

    americanexpat
    Alaska is a RTW state however if you choose not to join the union you still must pay union dues. In my case it was 2 1/2% of gross to the IBEW. I asked them what I was getting for my money and they said they hire a lot of lawyers. Of course they would not defend me because I was not a union member even though I was paying for them.

    IBEW:
    International
    Brotherhood of
    Embezzling
    Weasels

    These guys are around from time to time trying to organize the place I work at.

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    americanexpat bloviates:

    Response to Library Czar @:

    Well, per the National Right to Work website, i.e., the people who should be tracking these things, Alaska is not a RTW state. Maybe you got some bad info. Or maybe these guys are wrong. Dunno.

    http://www.nrtw.org/rtws.htm

    Although I grew up in a UAW family, I’ve never been a union member myself, and don’t want to be. But from what I’ve seen, unions tend to gain in acceptance when a company has abusive or neglectful management. My sister went through this at a hospital (in a RTW state) where she worked as a nurse, where the management was straight out of “Dilbert”. The union (Teamsters, IIRC) eventually lost the certification election, by a wide margin, but the nurses made their point. For a while at least, management treated them like human beings instead of interchangeable parts.

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