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		<title>By: WayneB</title>
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		<dc:creator>WayneB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;- Movies where some high-ranking military officer is involved in some rogue operation or shh-big-secret coverup, and some intrepid reporter or whomever blows the lid off it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ever read Footfall, by Niven &amp; Pournell? In the latter half of that book, the &quot;Intrepid Reporter&quot; discovers what they&#039;re doing in the big secret operation (to try to defeat the aliens), but when he stops at the compound of a Survivalist friend, the guy staying there who is a former Environmentalist Wacko drowns the reporter in the toilet, then buries him in the compost heap out back, so he doesn&#039;t get a chance to blow the operation&#039;s cover.

I&#039;d like to see them turn that into a TV mini-series, as long as they don&#039;t turn it around to be another &quot;Humans Evil&quot; plot.</description>
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<p>Ever read Footfall, by Niven &amp; Pournell? In the latter half of that book, the &#8220;Intrepid Reporter&#8221; discovers what they&#8217;re doing in the big secret operation (to try to defeat the aliens), but when he stops at the compound of a Survivalist friend, the guy staying there who is a former Environmentalist Wacko drowns the reporter in the toilet, then buries him in the compost heap out back, so he doesn&#8217;t get a chance to blow the operation&#8217;s cover.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see them turn that into a TV mini-series, as long as they don&#8217;t turn it around to be another &#8220;Humans Evil&#8221; plot.</p>
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		<title>By: LC BrainFromArous, God-Fearing Atheist</title>
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		<dc:creator>LC BrainFromArous, God-Fearing Atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And some of my own...

&lt;strong&gt;E-Z Languages&lt;/strong&gt;
The ability of movie characters - esp Designated Heroes - to attain fluency in foreign languages with preternatural ease. I saw this last week while watching some lame WW2 movie (the name escapes me) where one OSS-type guy told the other he had &quot;picked up German by traveling in Europe before the war.&quot;

Excuse me? Unless he intends to ask the Gestapo where the bathroom is or order lunch from a Wehrmacht cafeteria, he and his team are in deep Scheisse. Anyone who has ever studied a language knows how hard it is - kids have it somewhat easier, but it&#039;s still a major undertaking.

Consider the level of fluency OSS-types and spies would need, including regionally-appropriate accents and comfort with slang as well as formal grammar and vocabulary. Not the sort of thing one is likely to &#039;pick up&#039; even if one has a knack for languages - which some people do. Yet we see/hear this all the time!

&lt;strong&gt;Sword-Slamming&lt;/strong&gt;
The movie convention - nearly universal, alas - of having two characters with swords &#039;fight&#039; by repeatedly slamming their blades against each other at shoulder-height. Even though this treatment would blunt, bend or even snap all but the finest blades, nobody&#039;s sword ever seems the worse for wear.

&lt;strong&gt;Tactical Morons&lt;/strong&gt;
This covers guys who kick open doors and then stand framed in the doorway, with the light silhouetting them from behind. Or people fighting someone with a bat, chain or some such who never think to close with their foe, thus getting inside the arc of the weapon and rendering it far less dangerous...

Now, I don&#039;t expect every character in the movies to be a hand-to-hand combat expert, but why must so many of them - movie cops, for example - disregard the most basic tactics that are part of their training and street survival?

&lt;strong&gt;(Senti)Mental Illness&lt;/strong&gt;
Often seen in &#039;dramadies&#039; (drama/comedies), this involves people who are retarded, bipolar, autistic or whatever but behave in such a way that the audience can say, &quot;Aww, isn&#039;t that cute! They&#039;re people too; they just don&#039;t behave the way that us normal people do! They&#039;re merely misunderstood.&quot;

Such people are often shown to be more &#039;pure&#039; or insightful than the more functional people around them. There is also the companion cliche of serious mental illness as a signifier of an artistic or &#039;sensitive&#039; soul.

&lt;strong&gt;Magic Vests&lt;/strong&gt;
This is body armor - often worn by Designated Hero detectives and the like - which, somehow, negates all kinetic force carried by any projectiles. I have seen this more times than I can remember; some hood will pull out a MAC-10 or shotgun and blast our hero point-blank in the chest, shredding his clothes and knocking him back several feet. Of course, our hero is a-ok and promptly pops right back up to give the villain what-for.

As all Rotties know, body armor doesn&#039;t work like that. Body armor prevents penetration, but that&#039;s it. All that kinetic force has to go somewhere - and that somewhere is the person getting shot.

Speaking of reality-free violence, there&#039;s the No-Effects Fight. We&#039;ve all seen this. Two characters beat on each other for five minutes straight of screen time, landing full-on blows to the face and vital torso areas that would hospitalize even trained boxers.

The next scene... there&#039;s hardly a mark on them. Nobody lost any teeth. Nobody&#039;s eyes are swollen shut. No broken noses. No limping. Nada.</description>
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<p><strong>E-Z Languages</strong><br />
The ability of movie characters &#8211; esp Designated Heroes &#8211; to attain fluency in foreign languages with preternatural ease. I saw this last week while watching some lame WW2 movie (the name escapes me) where one OSS-type guy told the other he had &#8220;picked up German by traveling in Europe before the war.&#8221;</p>
<p>Excuse me? Unless he intends to ask the Gestapo where the bathroom is or order lunch from a Wehrmacht cafeteria, he and his team are in deep Scheisse. Anyone who has ever studied a language knows how hard it is &#8211; kids have it somewhat easier, but it&#8217;s still a major undertaking.</p>
<p>Consider the level of fluency OSS-types and spies would need, including regionally-appropriate accents and comfort with slang as well as formal grammar and vocabulary. Not the sort of thing one is likely to &#8216;pick up&#8217; even if one has a knack for languages &#8211; which some people do. Yet we see/hear this all the time!</p>
<p><strong>Sword-Slamming</strong><br />
The movie convention &#8211; nearly universal, alas &#8211; of having two characters with swords &#8216;fight&#8217; by repeatedly slamming their blades against each other at shoulder-height. Even though this treatment would blunt, bend or even snap all but the finest blades, nobody&#8217;s sword ever seems the worse for wear.</p>
<p><strong>Tactical Morons</strong><br />
This covers guys who kick open doors and then stand framed in the doorway, with the light silhouetting them from behind. Or people fighting someone with a bat, chain or some such who never think to close with their foe, thus getting inside the arc of the weapon and rendering it far less dangerous&#8230;</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t expect every character in the movies to be a hand-to-hand combat expert, but why must so many of them &#8211; movie cops, for example &#8211; disregard the most basic tactics that are part of their training and street survival?</p>
<p><strong>(Senti)Mental Illness</strong><br />
Often seen in &#8216;dramadies&#8217; (drama/comedies), this involves people who are retarded, bipolar, autistic or whatever but behave in such a way that the audience can say, &#8220;Aww, isn&#8217;t that cute! They&#8217;re people too; they just don&#8217;t behave the way that us normal people do! They&#8217;re merely misunderstood.&#8221;</p>
<p>Such people are often shown to be more &#8216;pure&#8217; or insightful than the more functional people around them. There is also the companion cliche of serious mental illness as a signifier of an artistic or &#8217;sensitive&#8217; soul.</p>
<p><strong>Magic Vests</strong><br />
This is body armor &#8211; often worn by Designated Hero detectives and the like &#8211; which, somehow, negates all kinetic force carried by any projectiles. I have seen this more times than I can remember; some hood will pull out a MAC-10 or shotgun and blast our hero point-blank in the chest, shredding his clothes and knocking him back several feet. Of course, our hero is a-ok and promptly pops right back up to give the villain what-for.</p>
<p>As all Rotties know, body armor doesn&#8217;t work like that. Body armor prevents penetration, but that&#8217;s it. All that kinetic force has to go somewhere &#8211; and that somewhere is the person getting shot.</p>
<p>Speaking of reality-free violence, there&#8217;s the No-Effects Fight. We&#8217;ve all seen this. Two characters beat on each other for five minutes straight of screen time, landing full-on blows to the face and vital torso areas that would hospitalize even trained boxers.</p>
<p>The next scene&#8230; there&#8217;s hardly a mark on them. Nobody lost any teeth. Nobody&#8217;s eyes are swollen shut. No broken noses. No limping. Nada.</p>
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		<title>By: LC BrainFromArous, God-Fearing Atheist</title>
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		<dc:creator>LC BrainFromArous, God-Fearing Atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper</title>
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		<dc:creator>LC Mrs. M-ITT™-Imperial Sniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 03:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H.&lt;/b&gt; sez:
&lt;blockquote&gt;(BTW Mrs. M, where did you stash the hydrogen peroxide and trauma dressings?)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Back of the Imperial Broom Closet&#8482;, on top of the &lt;strike&gt;liqueur&lt;/strike&gt; supply cabinet, upper shelf, in the box marked &lt;em&gt;Hydrogen Peroxide and Trauma Dressings&lt;/em&gt; ya noob.  :em01:</description>
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<blockquote><p>(BTW Mrs. M, where did you stash the hydrogen peroxide and trauma dressings?)</p></blockquote>
<p>Back of the Imperial Broom Closet&trade;, on top of the <strike>liqueur</strike> supply cabinet, upper shelf, in the box marked <em>Hydrogen Peroxide and Trauma Dressings</em> ya noob.  <img src="http://nicedoggie.net/2009/wp-content/plugins/emotions/images/em01.gif" alt=":em01:" /></p>
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		<title>By: LC+IB Random Numbers</title>
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		<dc:creator>LC+IB Random Numbers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 03:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Fair Maiden&lt;/b&gt; sez:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Thank you for the privilege of allowing me into the Imperial realm of intellectual free speech and open ideas. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

More an Imperial house of ill repute...

(ducks)</description>
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<blockquote><p>Thank you for the privilege of allowing me into the Imperial realm of intellectual free speech and open ideas. </p></blockquote>
<p>More an Imperial house of ill repute&#8230;</p>
<p>(ducks)</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Fresh Sign</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Fresh Sign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 02:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/23/carter-says-sorry-jews-apology-linked-grandsons-political-ambitions/?test=latestnews&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;President Jimmy Carter Apologizes to Jews&lt;/a&gt;

Carter Says Sorry to Jews, Apology Not Linked to Grandson&#039;s Political Ambitions


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHHAHAHAHAHA</description>
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<p>Carter Says Sorry to Jews, Apology Not Linked to Grandson&#8217;s Political Ambitions</p>
<p>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHHAHAHAHAHA</p>
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		<title>By: LC HJ Caveman82952</title>
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		<dc:creator>LC HJ Caveman82952</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 01:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you shameless brutes....instead of welcoming the &lt;strong&gt;Fair Maiden.......&lt;/strong&gt;........well, she won&#039;t be bored here. :em01:</description>
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		<title>By: LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>LC 0311 crunchie I.M.H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome &lt;strong&gt;Fair Maiden&lt;/strong&gt; indeed. And do forgive us our lack of manners in missing your initial post.&lt;strong&gt; Mrs.M&#039;s&lt;/strong&gt; vengeance aprobation was quite appropriate. (BTW Mrs. M, where did you stash the hydrogen peroxide and trauma dressings?)</description>
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		<title>By: Jaybear, Colonel of Imperial Ancient Artillery</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Fair Maiden&lt;/b&gt;:

welcome to Fortress Rottie  :em04:........

stick around here long enough and I guarantee that you&#039;ll be a&#039;changing that name of yours.......</description>
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<p>welcome to Fortress Rottie  <img src="http://nicedoggie.net/2009/wp-content/plugins/emotions/images/em04.gif" alt=":em04:" />&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>stick around here long enough and I guarantee that you&#8217;ll be a&#8217;changing that name of yours&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: LC PrimEviL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LC PrimEviL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Fair Maiden @ #74&lt;/b&gt;:
Oh, goody, fresh meat *&lt;em&gt;bong!!&lt;/em&gt;* Ow!! Dammit, Mrs.M put that skillet down. You could hurt
a body with that thing. &lt;em&gt;(good thing she hit me on the head, or she might have hurt me) &lt;/em&gt;:em02: 

*ahem&lt;em&gt;* (&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mrs. M glowers, tapping foot&lt;/em&gt;)
(&lt;strong&gt;DOG&lt;/strong&gt; wags tail, winks)
Welcome Fair Maiden, I see you have been properly fore-warned. Don&#039;t be too
concerned about the BC/RR links, horror is just emotional weakness leaving your brain. :em95: 

HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!! (&lt;em&gt;dives under desk&lt;/em&gt;)</description>
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Oh, goody, fresh meat *<em>bong!!</em>* Ow!! Dammit, Mrs.M put that skillet down. You could hurt<br />
a body with that thing. <em>(good thing she hit me on the head, or she might have hurt me) </em><img src="http://nicedoggie.net/2009/wp-content/plugins/emotions/images/em02.gif" alt=":em02:" /> </p>
<p>*ahem<em>* (</em><em>Mrs. M glowers, tapping foot</em>)<br />
(<strong>DOG</strong> wags tail, winks)<br />
Welcome Fair Maiden, I see you have been properly fore-warned. Don&#8217;t be too<br />
concerned about the BC/RR links, horror is just emotional weakness leaving your brain. <img src="http://nicedoggie.net/2009/wp-content/plugins/emotions/images/em95.gif" alt=":em95:" /> </p>
<p>HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE!!!! (<em>dives under desk</em>)</p>
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