We got a comment in a completely unrelated post about how our “hatred” of the backstabbing EUroweenies was entirely unbecoming, seeing as how wonderful, peaceful and cooperative the EUnuch Union really is and how they’re inevitably destined for greatness.
We always love it when somebody tries to lecture us on the nature of Europeans and the Grand EUrinal. It’s not like we haven’t had decades of first hand experience with that totalitarian clusterfuck, after all.
So normally we’d have just laughed, swung the Imperial ClueBat once or twice and moved on, but this was an apparently sincere post from a young 17-year-old U.S. expatriate, so we decided to answer it a little bit more in-depth:OK, my dear young “American-EUro” (whatever the Hades that might be). You’re reasonably polite, so I’ll be gentle with you:
This is not related to the most recent post, it’s a reaction tot all your Euro-hatred of late.
I don’t “hate” EUroweenies, I despise them. There’s a teensy-weensy difference there. OK, so a bit of righteous anger and perhaps a touch of hatred might sneak in there from time to time, but that’s a perfectly natural reaction to being back-stabbed by a bunch of lying, treacherous ingrates who’d all be blown to smithereens and/or speaking German/Russian now if it wasn’t for the U.S.
Don’t be so mean spirited; it hurts your argument. Nobody listens to blind anger.
Oh, but that’s where you’re mistaken, son. It’s anything but blind. It’s cold, focused and unrelenting, but not blind. Oh no. It isn’t.
Here is what a young American-EU citizen thinks……
Bring it on. I’m actually quite curious to learn what somebody who did the trip in reverse might think.
You see, if I believed in hyphens and serving two masters, you might call me a “Euro-American”, but I don’t.
After more than a millenia of inter-European wars, Europeans have finally decided that it was time they put aside their differences and worked together to serve all their people.
You have a mighty idealistic and, dare I say, naive view of European politics there. But the naivete is excusable, considering your tender years and your limited experience on that side of the pond, so let me clue you in:
There is nothing Europeans would rather do that put a knife to the throat of their neighbors any day of the week and twice on Sundays. If they could get away with it, that is.
And in many ways, they do. Take a look at Fermany and Grance, for instance. You think they’re dancing barefoot and hand in hand through the meadows filled with visions of “the common good?”
Either of those would wipe the other off the face of the planet in a heartbeat if they thought that they could do it without anybody taking notice. They’ve been at it for hundreds of years and if you really, REALLY think that that power struggle has gone out the window with this new “era” of yours then… Well, let’s just say that you don’t know a whole lot about European power politics.
Look at Germany. They’re just about ready to jump ship and rejoin the “Dark Side”, leaving france dead in the water. You think it’s because they’ve suddenly rediscovered a deep and abiding love for the U.S.?
Please. They were practicing that kind of game and being quite good at it back when Christopher Columbus was nothing but a horny glint in his daddy’s eyes.
Give them an in that gives them a shot at becoming the new European Alpha Dog, and they’ll sell their french “friends” down the river just as quick as they sold us after 9/11.
Or how about ChIRAQ’s charming attitude towards the new Eastern prospective members of the EU? “You just missed a perfectly good opportunity to shut up” and “you can be members of our club if you kow-tow to la france”.
Does that sound like the EUnuchs have entered a golden age of “working together for the good of all?” Only if you’re an idiot.
The European Union cam about at the end of a century in which Europe decimated itself twice. The creation of the EU is, in my mind, one of the most hopeful things to occur in the last several hundred years.
It’s a hopeful thing if you’re an apparatchik member of the unelected elite in Brussels, that’s for sure. But if you’re “just” a citizen, it’s slavery.
They’re no different from the Soviet Union, except they haven’t gotten around to starting up a Gulag system. Yet.
It anyone had suggested it even 50 years ago, they would have been called insane,
Napoleon suggested it 190 years ago. Hitler suggested it 70 years ago. Granted, they WERE insane, but still. It’s not like creating a totalitarian European state is a new idea.
but look at Europe today; united, cooperative and peaceful.
You have endless bickering between the member states over anything from foreign policy to fishing quotas to the maximum curvature of a cucumber, ferchrissakes, each one trying to gain an advantage over the others, while the only thing keeping them from being anything BUT “peaceful” is the fact that they shut down their armies to build a socialist cradle-to-grave nanny state.
It certainly has flaws; both many and deep, but it is a young organization and I am hopeful it will keep getting better and better.
If you’d take the time to actually study the history of it, you’d notice that it’s gotten worse and worse ever since it started as a noble idea about free trade among member states, nothing more.
I have a hard time seeing where you’re getting your optimism from.
The United States (which I am a citizen of) seems to be fearful of the European Union (which I am also a citizen of) because it is just that; new and profoundly different than anything that came before it.
Of WHAT, pray tell?
That they’re “new?”
Son, they ain’t new. They’re a rehash of Napoleon’s dreams of a Europe united under french hegemony, Hitler’s dreams of the same under German hegemony and the Soviet Union. They’re the exact same that they’ve always been, and if there’s anything about them that gives us the slightest reason for concern, then it is that they’ll eventually run out of grub and start fighting among themselves like starving pigs at an empty trough, and guess who gets to clean up THAT mess?
It will, in time, upset the trans-Atlantic balance of power as the EU develops a more unified foreign policy and even perhaps a cooperative military force,
Since they’ve been sliding in the opposite direction ever since their start, they’re not bloody likely to turn around any time soon.
Pigs will fly above the snow-covered slopes of Hell before anything like that happens.
How are they supposed to be getting a “more unified foreign policy” when they can’t even fucking agree on what to do about a shitty little speck on the map engaged in ethnic cleansing in their own feckin’ back yard? Or get even a rudimentary Constitution written down?
A “cooperative military force?”
Son, they don’t HAVE a military. It’s all been pawned off to pay for their welfare state. They couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag if it was doused in gasoline and they had butane torch.
…but what right do we have to tell the Europeans how to live?
I don’t, nor do I want to.
I DO, however, have a perfect right to tell them that as long as they behave as they do, I want absolutely NO part of them and they can, as far as I’m concerned, go fuck themselves, the horses they rode in on and the dog that followed them.
They have a right to control their destiny as much as we have to control ours.
They certainly do. And as long as their misguided socialist adventures don’t interfere with our national interests, they can go on marching off to their Totalitarian Wonderland as much as they want to.
I just don’t want to hear them whining for our help when it all comes crashing down upon their pointed, submissive slave skulls.
To sum it up: I don’t want to hear from them PERIOD.
We can only hope that our superpower and their future superpower will work together for the common good.
I don’t honestly give a shit about “the common good”, except if it means “I scratch your back, you scratch mine”, because “the common good” won’t pay my bills.
And speaking of quid pro quo, they haven’t done jack SHIT for us lately, so why the fuck should I lift a pinky finger for them?
Because they’re really nice people?
This world really is big enough for us both.
As long as they stay in their part of it and keep the Hell out of ours, I’m fine with that.
If they don’t, however, they can expect a world of hurt and they’ll have deserved every single bit of it.
They’re on notice, and if they haven’t seen it by now, then they’re more than just a little bit blind. Not that I care either way.
by the way, I’m 17.
And it shows. No, that isn’t a criticism. I remember very well being 17 myself, all full of starry-eyed idealism and a deep belief that people are really inherently good and that they wouldn’t dream of stabbing their neighbors for personal gain.
Unfortunately, that’s not how the world works, and it’s CERTAINLY not how the EUnuchs work, as even a moderately sincere study of their history would show you.
One day you’ll learn too.