Cuba Discovers Oil; WhoreyWood Elitist Fuckwits Strangely Silent

We wonder when the Wailing & Gnashing of Teeth? from the GreenPissr crowd will begin about the Cantankerous Communist Cockbite’s plundering of Mother Gaia’s precious liquid largess, smack-dab in the middle of the beautiful waters around Cuba? (Hint: We won’t be holding our collective breath, that’s for sure. *Sound of crickets leaning against the alley wall, twiddling their tiny little cricket thumbs and smoking little cricket cigarettes…*)

HAVANA (AP) – President Communist Dictator Fidel Castro said a crude oil deposit has been discovered off Cuba containing up to 100 million barrels, good news for a country that imports about half the petroleum it needs.

We’d be willing to bet donuts to dollars that this story wouldn’t contain the words “good news for a country that imports about half the petroleum it needs” if it were the U.S. that had discovered a rather sizable oil deposit just off the coast of, saaaaay, Tampa Bay or Miami. It’d be spun so that the Eeeeeeeeevil BushCheneyHalliburtonBigOiiiiiiiilCabalr was plotting to cover the beaches of Florida with a 3-foot layer of heavy crude and had plans to dynamite every piece of coral within the Caribbean & Gulf of Mexico basins.

“This is the first discovery since 1999,” Castro said Friday in a speech to a closed session of the National Assembly. His comments were aired on state television Saturday.

Castro said the deposit was located off the coast of Santa Cruz del Norte, east of Havana, during an exploratory drilling. He said production at the site could begin during 2006.

And yet we’re still shelling out top dollar to the Shoddy Retardians? and other camel-fellators, while TENS OF BILLIONS of barrels of oil and TRILLIONS of cubic feet of gas are just offshore of the US and in ANWAR. Makes sense to us.

Cuba currently produces 75,000 barrels daily, about half of what it needs. It imports most of the rest, much of it on favorable terms from political ally Venezuela.

And that, right there, tells you all that you need to know about the current government in Venezuela….

Oil specialists believe Cuba’s waters in the Gulf of Mexico could contain large quantities of crude, just as those of Mexico and the United States do. Earlier explorations turned up only modest discoveries.

And which of these countries would have its economy castrated by the *spit* Kyoto Protocols *spit*? (We’ll give you some time to think that one over.)

We’ll be outside sitting in the Imperial F-150 SuperCrew o’ Doom? and revving the engine all night. We’ll peek in occasionally to check on your answers.

F.E.T.E.

128 comments

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    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    Isn’t InFidel dead yet? He’s awful old.

  3. 3
    B.C., Imperial Torturer? growls and barks:

    Wow. The Army DOES teach its members to count up to one! :P

  4. 4
    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    Not really. I had to guess, hence the question mark. Um… fourth?

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    LC Monster Kabasue growls and barks:

    And guess what country gave him all the geoligcal information for him to “discover” his little pot of gold, at the cost of American tax dollars.

    Answer: America

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    B.C., Imperial Torturer? growls and barks:

    He’s awful old.

    He’s both “awfulandold“. Unfortunately he’s still stealing oxygen from perfectly harmless zooplankton swimming around Antarctica.

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    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    Unfortunately he’s still stealing oxygen from perfectly harmless zooplankton swimming around Antarctica.

    Mwheh. You could turn that into a EnviroLefty war cry. “Get rid of Fidel! Do it for the plankton!”

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    Jerom growls and barks:

    you know? I would like to think that the discovery of oil will cure the cuban people’s problems and remedy their economy.
    Idealy they would no longer need to import oil, and could focus their spending in improoving the quality of life for their people.
    However there is the problem that they are communists: and therefore the wealth that this oil will create will bring only more power to the goverment of cuba.
    Hence the problem: a goverment does not produce anything, a goverment just governs (hence the name)
    People produce wealth, when they are able to act on the resources they have.
    This oil is potentially a great resource, hence the possibility of great wealth, but without the fundamental freedoms needed to act on this resource it will probably be waisted.
    In my opinion, while the goverment of cuba remains an autocratic dictatorship of “the people” it will never have the quality of life or the prosperity that the cuban people deserve.

    P.S.

    Merry Christmass to all of you out there!

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    Cb!Cb! growls and barks:

    *You’re still banned, you syphilitic semen-receptacle.—The Management?*

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    Luis Cipher growls and barks:

    I wonder if there are other motives for placing “industrial platforms” offshore… an evil flyin’ monkey defensive shield perhaps.

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    LC Mamamontezz, GLOR growls and barks:

    I wonder if there are other motives for placing “industrial platforms” offshore… an evil flyin’ monkey defensive shield perhaps.

    Priceless, Zilch. Just what we need, a Cuban Flying Monkey Crisis.

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    Daniel growls and barks:

    rev that engine a few extra times for me… my toyota echo (40+ mpg) just doesn’t do the trick. and merry christmas.

  13. 13
    LC Brendan growls and barks:

    Look can I get some help for a moment? My parents are moonbats(I’m not sure how they got this way..wasn’t anything I did)..anyway they claim the US is “planning to invade Cuba”.

    I know I know…it’s as idiotic as it gets.

    Has anyone else heard this pack of bullshit?

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    Peter Reaper growls and barks:

    this story wouldn’t contain the words “good news for a country that imports about half the petroleum it needs” if it were the U.S.

    Strawman

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    urgatorbait growls and barks:

    I reckon we should just go ahead and take that oil. What the hell we are being accused of invading Iraq for the oil……..

    Merry Christmas B.C. The new year approaches rapidly, we must get together and partake of wings!

  16. 16
    Tao Libra growls and barks:

    George Bush Announces Discovery of Crude Oil Deposit off American Pacific Coast
    The Liberal Press

    WASHINGTON (LP) – President George Bush claimed a crude oil deposit has been discovered off California containing up to 100 million barrels, which, if true, would be good news for an administration that has done nothing to address the rising costs of exploiting other nations to import their oil.

    “This is a very fortunate discovery,” Bush gloated Saturday in an announcement to the White House Press Corps. Rumors that Bush had already briefed representatives of Halliburton in a closed secret meeting on Friday have, mysteriously, not yet been confirmed.

    Bush claimed the deposit was located off the coast of Santa Cruz, south of San Francisco, during an exploratory drilling. He claimed production at the site could begin during 2006, but did not address the environmental, social and psychological effects that such a project might cause to the area.

    The United States currently produces 8.48 million barrels daily, which is only 43% of the 19.7 million barrels a day that oil-dependent American society ravenously consumes. It exploits developing nations to import the rest, most of it on terms dictated by the crushing pressure that American corporations can exert on vulnerable markets, backed up by the threat of U.S. military power.

    Environmental specialists are certain that California’s waters in Monterey Bay could not contain any significant quantity of crude, and are justifiably concerned about the devastating impact that corporate greed might have on the natural habitats of California Sea Lions, just as other defenseless animals have been driven to the brink of extinction when their pristine natural environments have been targeted in the relentless march of industrial “progress.” Earlier intrusive and destructive invasions of the area turned up only insignificant finds that do not justify the ominous long-term risks involved, many say.

    LP-12-26-04 0630EST

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    LCNEIlV growls and barks:

    Yes Brendan, your folks are right we are invading Cuba Next weekend to liberate the oil.
    Sorry that your Luna Chiroptera parents have the Invade Cuba meme rattlling in there heads.
    That story has been floating in the Moonbat ether for eternity.
    I wish we would do it ,after Venuzuela Buwahhhhhhhh.
    I feel better now.
    Tell them to quit giving out our VRWC secrets or the flyinf monkeys will drop them into Guantanamo.
    Which really is lovely this time of year.

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    DumbAss Tanker growls and barks:

    Brendan, sorry to hear your parents have passed into their dotage.
    I’m sure US Southern Command has a contingency plan for invading Cuba, as well as for either attacking or defending (or both) just about every other significant piece of turf south of the US and between the Azores, Falklands, and Easter Island; that’s how military headquarters fill those long empty decades between conflicts. I’m equally sure that however much the U.S. may dislike The Bearded One, he isn’t currently doing anything that would remotely justify invading his workers’ and peasants’ paradise.
    In the late 70s and into the 80s, it was a different story, there seemed to be Cuban advisors (or even expeditionary forces) all over the southern hemisphere. When the USSR went away, Castro rather astutely decided to knock that shit off.
    Cuba is a complex, multi-dimensinal political problem for the US, but unless they start doing something that directly threatens us, resolving it by invasion is a very poor solution and just not in the cards. It would fulfill the prime justification for chronic commodity shortages and economic failure that Castro has been using for the past 35 years, and the limping, shortage-plagued Cuban economy would quickly become the Golden Age of the West in the delusional system of our own press and acedemia.
    There’s just no rational reason for us to do it. Moonbats, being essentially irrational, therefore think that’s exactly what we are going to do.

  19. 19
    LC Ron growls and barks:

    (CLAP CLAP CLAP)

    Yay, Peter! What else did you learn in logic class this week?

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    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Ah, it’s nice to see that Robert McClelland managed to unstick his new toy rocking horse from his flatulent ass long enough to type some more spew our general direction.

    *Not to self: Keep Delete Button On Standby…*

    –TwoDragons

  22. 22
    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    *NOTE to self: Preview Is My Friend*

    –TwoDragons

  23. 23
    Zhorik the Pimp growls and barks:

    Booby-dear! Fidel Castro is on the phone, and he says you stole his favorite solid-gold butt-plug after you serviced him last night. If that is true, say your prayers, because after I am done with you, your mouth will be wired shut, and the only BJs you’ll be able to give would be to ants. My ho’s may be nasty, but they don’t steal!

  24. 24
    Zhorik the Pimp growls and barks:

    Oh, and it’s CHRISTMAS season, you crippled assfuck!

  25. 25
    Robert McClelland growls and barks:

    I got gang-banged by Santa’s reindeers…….. It wouldn’t have been so bad if they’d just stop sharpening their hooves before they mount me.

  26. 26
    Walter E. Wallis growls and barks:

    I sometimes wonder if the anti-offshore oil people and the anti-nukes are not funded by OPEC.

  27. 27
    B.C., Imperial Torturer? growls and barks:

    Boobert, keep your nasty 70′s teeny-bopper idol fantasies to yourself, you sick bastard. And wipe off your chin. You’ve got a little dollop of Fidel’s man-sputum dangling there.

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    toad growls and barks:

    Let’s see, possible sources of funding for cripple the US organizations, OPEC, France, the EU, North Korea, mainland China, any MoonBat with money and a lack of brains, back door funding in the form of grants from the US government. Uh, CBS? To many to list. Not enough rope, plenty of lamp posts though. Just have to set up a dissassembly line.

  29. 29
    Robert McClelland growls and barks:

    I’m still Spatula’s bitchboy!!! I’ll lick any dog’s perineum for money!!!!

  30. 30
    Zhorik the Pimp growls and barks:

    Boobert would lick his own nuts–if only he had any. Anyway, Boobert, Senor Castro is very upset about his butt-plug. Better return it, or no more commie-chorizo for you!

  31. 31
    N. O'Brain, IMfUI growls and barks:

    This just in, Reggie White has died.

    A great man and a great football player.

    Go Eagles!

  32. 32
    N. O'Brain, IMfUI growls and barks:

    This just in:

    Reggie White arrived at the Pearly Gates, did a speed rush past St. Peter and sacked the Angel Gabriel.

  33. 33
    Robert McClelland growls and barks:

    This just in, Reggie White has died.

    I’m a heterophobic limp-wrist and a douchebag – I wanna hump the Rev. Jesse Jackson.

  34. 34
    N. O'Brain, IMfUI growls and barks:

    …he rejected the stewardship of the Rev. Jesse Jackson

    Which just goes to prove that he was infinitely smarter than you.

  35. 35
    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    Does Boobert sound like the teacher from “Charlie Brown” to anybody else, or is it just me?

    Wa WAH wa wa wa Wah.

  36. 36
    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    LC Army NCO Guy–

    Oh damn, now I have to clean all this Dr. pepper off my shirt and keyboard. It’s all YOUR FAULT! ;-)

    I didn’t even give him that much credit. He always sounds like the text version of a greasy fart to me…

    –TwoDragons

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    LC Fireman Bob growls and barks:

    D.A.T., I believe that would be Northern Command who maintains the plans for the Cuba invasion.

    Southern Command, on the other hand, maintains the plans for Venezula. Am I mistaken on this?

  38. 38
    Mike M growls and barks:

    BC licks male perineum!

    T’aint true.

  39. 39
    LC Joseph Dromedary growls and barks:

    LC Brendan

    You parents are right on!

    After invading Cuba, the US Extreme Southern Command is going to orchestrate the invasion of Tierra del Fuego also.
    It is a dagger aimed at the soft underbelly of Antarctica and could provide a launching platform for those wishing to damage US oil interests, ice interests and the American desire to enslave the PLO (Penguin Liberation Organization). This shit has got to stop.

    Enough of this bullshit! No Blood for Penguins!

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    salvage growls and barks:

    from the GreenPissr crowd

    Uh they might say it’s bad? But what influence do they have with Cuba? Less than what they have with any other government. What’s your point? That they only protest environmental damage where they might actually effect change? That they don’t protest the actions of a dictatorship that wouldn?t listen anyway? Doesn?t that make sense?

    And that, right there, tells you all that you need to know about the current government in Venezuela….

    Yeah! Only the vilest of governments would deal with oppressive communist dictatorships like Cuba. You’d never see the U.S. doing billions of dollars of business with one.

    Except China.

    And Vietnam.

    And Saudi Arabia? but they?re not commies.

    And Egypt? but they?re also not commies.

    And Uzbekistan? they used to be commies but now they just boil their politician prisoners alive.

    And Pakistan? but their military dictator looks like a Muppet so he can?t be that bad.

    If you don’t like the U.S. getting oil from the Middle East and other unsavory types then why not invest in R&D for alternate fuels? Encourage the purchase of high mileage hybrid cars rather than gas guzzling SUVs. Instead of driving why not bike or walk to work? Instead of, y?know, just talking about it.

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    LC Joseph Dromedary growls and barks:

    Oh fuck! Now same penguin marriage.

  43. 43
    Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant growls and barks:

    If you don’t like the U.S. getting oil from the Middle East and other unsavory types then why not invest in R&D for alternate fuels? Encourage the purchase of high mileage hybrid cars rather than gas guzzling SUVs. Instead of driving why not bike or walk to work? Instead of, y?know, just talking about it.

    Or maybe we could drill on our own  land – say, ANWR, for starters – and tap into our own  oil supply.

    Instead of, y?know, just talking about it.

    Dumbass.

  44. 44
    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    Sorry about that, LC TwoDragons. I will try to give proper warning next time.

  45. 45
    LC Joseph Dromedary growls and barks:

    Instead of driving why not bike or walk to work? Instead of, y’know, just talking about it.

    Hmmm, let me see. The main areas of employment are in the big cities and modern demographics show
    the migration of workers to the “burbs” with most “bedroom” communities being 30, 40 amd 50 miles away from those areas.

    Nothing like a brisk 8 to 10 hour walk to work in the morning, 10 minutes work, and a return home of the same duration of 10 hours. I guess a bicycle could cut the commute time down to about 5 hours.

    Seems like the answer, to me.

  46. 46
    LC Bishop, Imperial Titweasel growls and barks:

    I got gang-banged by Santa’s reindeers……..

    Damn, am I the only one that immediately thought of this?

    Boobie got gang-banged
    by some reindeers,
    Coming back from Zhorik’s
    Christmas eve.
    Now, You might say there’s
    no such thing as Santa,
    but Boobie’s anus now looks
    like a shirt sleeve.

    OK, OK, I’ll take my meds…

  47. 47
    LC Ron growls and barks:

    why not invest in R&D for alternate fuels? Encourage the purchase of high mileage hybrid cars rather than gas guzzling SUVs. Instead of driving why not bike or walk to work? Instead of, y?know, just talking about it.

    What kind of alternate fuels? Unless we find a way to pump hydrogen directly from the sun itself, cells will not be cost effective. The hybrid is as good as its going to get for the foreseeable future. Our government already offers a $2000 tax credit (in layman’s terms, a handout) for the purchase of a green car. I see the writing on the wall as far as the price of oil goes, and to protect my own pocket, my next car will be a hybrid.

    Id drop the whole walk to work/bike to work plea. Its only going to make you sound like a fucking nutcase. Most of us dont live that close to work, and many of us arent in a metro where we could use mass transit.

    On Greenpeace activists in other countries:

    That they only protest environmental damage where they might actually effect change? That they don’t protest the actions of a dictatorship that wouldn?t listen anyway? Doesn?t that make sense?

    Mmmyeah. More like they only protest where they wont be summarily shot. They protest here because we are too nice to troublemakers.

    Doesnt that make sense?

  48. 48
    LC Ron growls and barks:

    Let the nurses put the straps on reeeal tight this time, Bishop. :)

  49. 49
    LC Bishop, Imperial Titweasel growls and barks:

    Let the nurses put the straps on reeeal tight this time, Bishop.

    Spoilsport. Being an Escaped lunatic, is half the fun of being a lunatic! ;)

    (“I hear weasels! Hey you kids, knock that of! You wouldn’t do that if Nixon was in the White house…”)

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    erp growls and barks:

    Damn. Wouldn’t you know it’s crude oil It’s a conspiracy. Now who’s supposed to pay to get it to a refinery and processed.

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    DumbAss Tanker growls and barks:

    LC Fireman Bob, you could be right, Joint Command lines have shifted since Northern Command was stood up not so very long ago; prior to that the Caribbean basin was Southern Command’s turf, though, and Northern Command was (as I recollected) intended to mainly handle continental North America. I didn’t bother to look it up before posting that comment, so I could be all wet on that.

  52. 52
    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    LC Ron–

    Or if one doesn’t want even the compromise that hybrid cars offer, they could turn to the propane-powered or hydrogen-powered cars. But frankly, I don’t know about Y’ALL, but the idea of sitting in something that’s little more than a flimsy fiberglass shell wrapped around a HUGE FRICKIN’ CYLINDER OF FLAMMABLE GAS makes me long for a nice, reliable ’79 Pinto.

    As for mass metro transit, has anyone been on a city bus lately? Mmm-mmm, nothing like inhaling the stale, rebreathed air of countless drunks and cold-sufferers while fending off the amorous approach of a teenage gangbanger with open herpes sores and a cucumber shoved down his ill-fitting pants. Or there’s the Green Buses of Austin, powered by LP gas–and usually towed behind a Cap-Metro towtruck. Or you can take the downtown’s pride and joy: The Dillo! It’s free! And it’s a decent ride–if you can find a seat that isn’t covered in urine or puke or the festering ass of a sleeping transient bucking the no-camping ordinance by using the public transportation system as his personal king-size mattress…

    As for bicycling in the “Green” city of Austin…? You’re not allowed to cycle on the sidewalk without getting busted by a bored bicycle cop–who happens to also be on the sidewalk. As for the streets themselves, it’s only safe to ride on the rare streets that have bike-paths. Otherwise you run the risk of being hit by a speeding Cap-Metro bus. Or running INTO one that suddenly broke down…

    –TwoDragons

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    B.C., Imperial Torturer? growls and barks:

    Saliva quoth’d:

    Yeah! Only the vilest of governments would deal with oppressive communist dictatorships like Cuba. You’d never see the U.S. doing billions of dollars of business with one.

    Look, you Simpering Socialist, go back and re-read the quote:

    It imports most of the rest, much of it on favorable terms from political ally Venezuela.

    Being a “political ally” is a far cry from “doing business” with a country with a less-than-spectacular human rights record. Besides, aren’t you and your fellow Suckers of Stalin’s Scrotal Sacr the ones bitching about the economic sanctions against your buddy and pal, the Benevolent & Loving Uncle Saddam and his Band of Merry Manglers??

    As for your calling for us to come up with EnviroFriendly? technology in order to save Mother Gaia? from Global Worming?, why don’t you and your fellow Idiotarian Intelligentsiacs? come up with it yourselves? After all, you are the ones claiming to be All Knowing & All Encompassing of All That Is Good For Gaia?.

    Let us know when your Cold Fusion GaiaScooter? comes online. We’ll be sure to stop and scrape up the bloody smear of your bones and offal after we run over you in the Imperial F-150 SuperCrew o’ Doom? on our way to work in the pre-dawn hours.

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    LC mrs heather, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Boobert,

    For the love of Pete, please stop talking about your sex life?

    I’ve just eaten and I really don’t want to see my supper again.

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    LC Ron growls and barks:

    Oh, I know, 2D. I was just trying to explain to salvage that it isnt as cut and dry as simple conservation, as Im sure he already knows. We have the natural gas buses in El Paso, too. Havent had the joy of riding on one yet.

    Eeeyouch, BC. Thats gonna leave a mark.

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    Walter E. Wallis growls and barks:

    Do you suppose Greenpiece will barricade the drilling sites to protect the barracuda breeding grounds?

  57. 57
    Lee growls and barks:

    I thought Cuba was already an oil producer but had to import Venezuela’s oil because their crude was so shitty.Maybe this new find is just as bad.

  58. 58
    Luis Cipher growls and barks:

    Hemicuda breeding grounds? and I thought they used to be in Detroit. Make mine a 440 magnum please.

  59. 59
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    Looks like McClelland finally turned enough tricks to get his little blog running again.

    So now he’s trolling the blogosphere trying to generate hits.

    It’s temporary.

    After a few weeks of “0 comments”, his blog will crash and burn like it did before and it’ll be back to “setting up shop” in the park restrooms for Robert.

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    salvage growls and barks:

    Nothing like a brisk 8 to 10 hour walk to work in the morning, 10 minutes work, and a return home of the same duration of 10 hours. I guess a bicycle could cut the commute time down to about 5 hours.

    Er no, if you’re in any sort of shape a bike ride takes about twice as long as the average car ride. So if your commute is 15-20 minutes by car you should be able to bike in under an hour.

    But that would take all kinds of effort and the Saudis would be lost without our gas money so don’t sweat it. Just continue to bitch about, that?ll eventually solve the problem. Or blame it on everyone else, that works just as well.

    It imports most of the rest, much of it on favorable terms from political ally Venezuela.

    Ohhhh I see. It’s bad to do business with political allies but it’s okay to do it with governments whose politics and tactics you find repulsive and illegal. That makes it much better. The real answer is that the U.S. economy is so tied to China?s that they could have some sort forced abortion policy and you?d still be pissing and moaning about Cuba while ignore the moral compromises made in the name of low low Wal-Mart prices. Force abortions kids, pregnant women picked up from their homes, driven by cops to the hospital and they sit their while their fetus is sucked out from them. Can you please show me an equivalent evil from Cuba?

    What kind of alternate fuels?

    I don?t know, hence the Research and Development.

    Id drop the whole walk to work/bike to work plea. Its only going to make you sound like a fucking nutcase. Most of us dont live that close to work, and many of us arent in a metro where we could use mass transit.

    Yeah, you?re right, using less Saudi oil, less pollution, more exercise? man I should be certified cuz most Americans don?t live in cities with buses, subways, carpools or roads that are paved well enough for bikes to be used.

    They protest here because we are too nice to troublemakers.

    Yeah what were the Founding Fathers thinking with that whole ?peacefully assemble? ?grievance? deal? They were pretty crazy themselves. Anyone who tries to make the air and water cleaner should be shot. Ruining G-d?s creation is our right damnit!

  61. 61

    Er no, if you’re in any sort of shape a bike ride takes about twice as long as the average car ride. So if your commute is 15-20 minutes by car you should be able to bike in under an hour.

    “Er, no”, Salvage… you got it wrong AGAIN. The bike ride takes about twice as long as the average commute IF you can take the same roads using both forms of transportation AND IF none of the commute is on an interstate. I mean, seriously, only Lance Armstrong could maintain a pace of 30-35 mph for an hour (I know someone who has a half hour commute, 90% of which is either on interstate or roads with the same speed limit.)

    For some people, walking or riding a bike makes sense. In some areas (those with a decent subway system) public transportation makes sense. But the fact that many enviromentalist whackoes need to come to grips with is that many of our cities were not designed for walking. It’s just a matter of fact.

    I’m not against conservation. I believe that we are to use the resources that God gave us responsibly. But He also gave us logic and reasoning. Too bad you missed out on that particular gift.

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    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Salvage, if we lived by your “logic”, people with heart problems or physical disabilities that precluded them bicycling to work would be completely unable to have a job.

    Everyone would have to have the physique and stamina of an Olympic-level marathon bicycler, all roads would have to be tripled in width to handle the load of bicyclers (thus tearing up so much more of Gaia’s precious earth…) while still maintaining a roadway. They’d need the roadway for emergency vehicles–because that many bicycling communters would certainly demand constant vigilance by folks capable of patching up the countless scrapes, broken bones, and massive contusions incurred by such a myriad of human beings on bikes suddenly ramming into each other.

    Oh and there’s that small, nagging aspect of THE WEATHER. Heatstroke or frostbite, anyone? Or a nice, drenching rain with hail. Or for those with particularly big balls and a proportionately smaller common sense, you can pedal your way through a lightning storm.

    Jeebus, Slabbage–do you ever THINK before you throw these things out…?

    –TwoDragons

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    LC Bruiser, Enforcer of the Red (State) Army growls and barks:

    Salvage, my co-workers are smelly enough as it is. I don’t need them bicycling to work kicking up a full sweat before entering the cubefarm thankyouverymuch!

    Besides, my pointy-haired-boss’ trip from Westport CT to NYC would take entirely too long…he might come in to the office less than he currently does.

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    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    Er no, if you’re in any sort of shape a bike ride takes about twice as long as the average car ride. So if your commute is 15-20 minutes by car you should be able to bike in under an hour.

    Wrong Salvage. In many cities, rising property costs in the major employment areas prevent middle class people from living near their place of work, it’s just a fact. When I lived near Los Angeles, I had to live almost 60 miles away from work because of property costs. Ever try biking 60 miles in the morning, and again on the way home? Even if I could do such a thing, I would show up to work all sweaty and stinky, hardly a way to encourage potential customers to purchase my products. Maybe for a select few in cities where property cost is not an issue biking makes sense. But to say that everyone should do it, and that we are evil and lazy if we do not is sheer idiocy.

    But that would take all kinds of effort and the Saudis would be lost without our gas money so don’t sweat it. Just continue to bitch about, that?ll eventually solve the problem. Or blame it on everyone else, that works just as well.

    I don’t give a rat’s ass about the Saudis. We buy oil from them, so what? Maybe we wouldn’t even have to if we could drill on our own lands and our own waters.

    Ohhhh I see. It’s bad to do business with political allies but it’s okay to do it with governments whose politics and tactics you find repulsive and illegal. That makes it much better. The real answer is that the U.S. economy is so tied to China?s that they could have some sort forced abortion policy and you?d still be pissing and moaning about Cuba while ignore the moral compromises made in the name of low low Wal-Mart prices. Force abortions kids, pregnant women picked up from their homes, driven by cops to the hospital and they sit their while their fetus is sucked out from them. Can you please show me an equivalent evil from Cuba?

    China is a shithole, this is very true. It’s a massive human rights violation. But then so was Iraq under Saddam. Your kind complained when we invaded Iraq and deposed him, so tell me what would you have us do about China? Ask them to pretty-please stop killing people or we’ll have the UN slap them on the wrist? Maybe we wouldn’t have to import cheap products from China if our own labor laws and labor unions weren’t so screwed up that a bag-checker makes $17/hour. In the 1900′s labor laws and unions served a great purpose in getting fair treatment for workers, but today they have outlived their usefullness. The Unions are as greedy as the companies they hate, and have inflated production costs for anything made in the USA. So the end result of leftist labor ideas is that we now import from China. If you don’t like it, then go do something about it.

    What kind of alternate fuels?
    I don?t know, hence the Research and Development.

    There are a few ideas in this department, but I think the most promising is straight hydrogen. Works like a gasoline engine except it uses hydrogen instead. It’s only by product is water vapor, and it can be readily extracted from salt water. However this is at least 20 years away from becoming commercially viable. There is no need to encourage development of this idea in the form of government grants because most auto companies are already toying with the idea. Ford & Mazda made a couple of these a few years ago, and they worked pretty well. The differ from fuel cell cars in that they burn the hydrogen. Let the auto companies do this, they know oil won’t last forever, just as we do, so they’ve already been working on the problem. Instead of whining about SUVs and Saudis why don’t you go get a degree in automotive engineering and go work for an auto company developing these fuels and engine? Do something constructive instead of bitch and moan about it if you feel so strongly about the situation.

    Yeah, you?re right, using less Saudi oil, less pollution, more exercise? man I should be certified cuz most Americans don?t live in cities with buses, subways, carpools or roads that are paved well enough for bikes to be used.

    Riding a bicycle through ghetto LA at 6 AM in the morning on roads filled with potholes and insane, suicidal drivers (half of them behind the wheel of a bus) is not my idea of a good morning commute.

    Yeah what were the Founding Fathers thinking with that whole ?peacefully assemble? ?grievance? deal? They were pretty crazy themselves. Anyone who tries to make the air and water cleaner should be shot. Ruining G-d?s creation is our right damnit!

    Peacefully assemble? Man, I’ve seen liberal protests before, and they turn downright VIOLENT. Curses, BushHitler signs, flying rocks and smashed windows… For a bunch of peaceniks, you guys are sure nasty and violent.

    Sure, wholesale dumping of giant black clouds of carbon monoxide might not be a bright idea. And perhaps dumping 50 tons of nuclear waste in the local water supply might be of questionable wisdom. But the way you liberals talk, you’d think that everytime I fart, a new hole opens in the ozone layer. Damned Chili… Learn a little common sense, after all there is something between wholesale nuclear and toxic waste dumping and the socialist enviro-utopia where everyone rides bikes and avoids chili. Do you know what we call that magic place in the middle? That’s right…. REAL LIFE. Go get one.

    You’ve been told by LC Xealot.

  65. 65
    kschlenker growls and barks:

    Salvage–
    We live in a rural area next to a state highway. People drive like maniacs on that highway–the speed limit is 65, but most go at least 75(and it is only a two lane road). How is anyone going to ride a bike beside that highway?

    Not to mention, there are some really crazy folks out there. My husband had a guy pull off the road to hit one of our dogs who had gotten out of the gate. The dog wasn’t even on pavement, and the guy spun out, but still killed the dog. Some of these crazy dudes would be happy to turn a bicyclist into a red smear alongside the road.

    Then there is the fun of the Texas summer to think about–with no AC. There would be people passing out all over the place from heat exhaustion.

    Also, there is the historical accident evidence to consider. At one time, there were no cars in the US–so what was a major killer? Horse accidents… Bicycles are also considered more deadly per mile than automobiles; mostly due to traumatic head injuries. (Though autos have the overall highest rates for head injuries simply because they are used much, much more.)

  66. 66
    LC BattleofthePyramids growls and barks:

    Actually, the solution to our dependence on oil is very simple: Nuclear power. We need to build about 200 or so new fission power plants (fusion, when/if we can ever get it to work) and then use the energy to generate electricity and hydrogen from seawater. This will give us plenty of power for our factories and homes and hydrogen cells can run our cars and trucks. We can use breeder reactors to cut down on the total amount of waste produced, and use the plutonium to make more nuclear bunker busters.

    A win-win, all the way around:)

  67. 67
    Um Yeah growls and barks:

    on 1/6 we will prevent the electors from voting and stop the fradulint inaugeration of Shrub. we wont stop until PRESIDENT Kerry takes over!

  68. 68
    Deji Pachi growls and barks:

    Time to take your medicine and go back to your finger painting, Dum Yeah.

  69. 69
    LC mrs heather, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    on 1/6 we will prevent the electors from voting and stop the fradulint inaugeration of Shrub. we wont stop until PRESIDENT Kerry takes over!

    Um (pardon the pun) Elephant Man,

    Seems we need a Duh Yeah watch over at Pardon My English. He’s been a very rude guest over there.

    http://www.pardonmyenglish.com

    I think Aaron might appreciate it. ;)

    [NOTE:  Link's been fixed. (yer welcome, Mrs. H. (grin))  -The Management™]

  70. 70
    LC Joseph Dromedary growls and barks:

    Er no, if you’re in any sort of shape a bike ride takes about twice as long as the average car ride. So if your commute is 15-20 minutes by car you should be able to bike in under an hour.

    Er no, if you live, as thousands do, in the bedroom communities 80-100km north of Toronto and use the 4 lane, in winter, with snow, with black ice, with temps approaching minus 20, with 18 wheelers doing their thing……you intend to make it to work in 2 hours!!!

    You also assume that every commuter is 24 years old and owns a yellow jersey.

    Try using your head for something other than keeping your ears from colliding.

    Various politicians, who push this bicycle crap, are the ones that bicycle to work because it is 15 minutes from their downtown condo. Joe six-pack isn’t fortunate enough to be paid the bloated salaries at taxpayers expense, to be able to afford the luxury of bicycling to work plus have the luxury of not having to be there on time like the MFWICs.

    Give it up…the bicycle shit is a crock used to keep the votes of tree huggers and envirowhackos.

  71. 71
    LC Ron growls and barks:

    Uh, I’d quit while you’re behind, Salvage. Cede the point. Your idealism is sweet and all, but unreal. Think about how we'd all look after an hour bike ride to work as well. :)

    Peaceful assembly is what the Constitutional Convention was. It is not the motley crew of anarchists and college students "protesting". When are you going to realize that these people are reactionary idiots and should have a mace bomb dropped on them every time they try to congregate?

  72. 72
    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    Reaching waaaaaaay back in the thread-

    USSouthCom is responsible for everything south of Mexico and most of the Caribbean. But it doesn’t include Cuba or Puerto Rico. Apparently P.R. was recently changed to a different command, but I can’t for the life of me find out which one. Sorry, only been in Central America a month. Maybe that information is… ::shudder:: …classified…

  73. 73
    LC Ron growls and barks:

    Xealot, at this point hydrogen is untenable as fuel. We'd be using just as much if not more fossil energy extracting it from water, from what Ive read. Not only that, there is no naturally occurring source of hydrogen on the planet, except I hear Iceland has some sort of fissure or spring. Hardly the stuff of global energy solutions. Like I said, if we had a pipeline to the Sun, the nearest source I believe, all our problems would be solved.

  74. 74
    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    Xealot, at this point hydrogen is untenable as fuel. We’d be using just as much if not more fossil energy extracting it from water, from what Ive read. Not only that, there is no naturally occurring source of hydrogen on the planet, except I hear Iceland has some sort of fissure or spring. Hardly the stuff of global energy solutions. Like I said, if we had a pipeline to the Sun, the nearest source I believe, all our problems would be solved.

    You may be correct in this, but it is my understanding that a new method of extracting hydrogen from seawater is in development. However, it would consume a lot of electricity. Even if it does work though, it’ll be quite a long time before it becomes a comercially viable product.

    Either way you look at it, we are stuck with gasoline for a good while, and liberals are just going to have to live with that. Environmental nutcases or not ;) .

  75. 75
    Red (State) Army NCO growls and barks:

    on 1/6 we will prevent the electors from voting and stop the fradulint inaugeration of Shrub. we wont stop until PRESIDENT Kerry takes over!

    The electors have already voted, dumbfuck. They just count the votes on 6 Jan. You lost. Now leave.

  76. 76
    LC Walt growls and barks:

    [i]LC Battle: We can use breeder reactors to cut down on the total amount of waste produced, and use the plutonium to make more nuclear bunker busters.[/i]

    Sorry, it doesn’t work that way. The amount of nuclear waste depends on the power produced, period. Breeders simply make extra fuel (plutonium or U-233) from otherwise useless heavy isotopes (U-238 and thorium, respectively).

    Even so, nuclear waste is a minor engineering problem and far less damaging when properly handled than all the chemical crap spewed out by existing fossil-fuel plants. The only real difficulty in handling it is the NIMBY problem and occasionally running over idiot protesters with trains. (Blood’s bad for the wheels, y’know.) Simplest solution? Let it cool for a year to get rid of the nastiest short-lived isotopes, mix the rest into glass or concrete blocks, and stack ‘em in a Michigan or upstate New York salt mine. Safe, effective, with a natural double-barrier to escape of the bad stuff. No engineering needed.

    Will they do it? Nope. NY and MI are scared of it and no one will let them build the necessary reprocessors in -their- town. Morons.

  77. 77
    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    Well Walt, I had a better idea for nuclear waste. Let’s develop some cheap rockets and simply load the waste material onto them, and shoot them off into the Sun. The ultimate waste disposal system :) .

  78. 78
    LC Croaker growls and barks:

    I’ve got a better idea, Xealot. Why don’t we just have the federal gummint /buy/ Cuba, since they’re so “rich”, and then we get the oil /and/ the nuclear waste dump (aka Castro’s Ass)?

  79. 79
    LCNeilV growls and barks:

    Dumyeah has run away from Zhoriks again and is off his meds.
    Now shut up bunghole boy and get back in the basement.
    You need to pay Zhorik for your new heels,fishnets and the pancake makeup.

  80. 80
    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    LOL Croaker, what a great idea. Why didn’t I think of that? ;) .

  81. 81
    LC Scotty growls and barks:

    A couple of points:

    Hydrogen will always be problematic because the bulk of our hydrogen is bound up in water. It will always take more energy to liberate the hydrogen from the oxygen than you get when you burn the hydrogen. It is basic thermodynamics. No system of separating H from O will ever be 100% efficient. Where will the energy come from to separate H from O? Fossil fuels, nuclear, solar, wind and hydro are options, but we still burn more to get the H than we will get out of it.

    Nuclear: If done correctly, nuclear is a great way to go. The problems of dealing with spent nuclear fuel (SNF) are not quite as cut and dried as LC Battle has asserted. Vitrification (the glass method he described) is unparallelled for dealing with liquid waste. The matrix is stable and could conceivably last for well over 100,000 years. Since the overwhelming majority of activity in snf is from short lived (i.e. half life iunder a few thousand years) fission fragments (Cs-137, Sr-90) and decay products of actinides (Am-241) this time span is sufficient. The problem is the step before vitrification. This is typically a reprocessing plant where the snf is cut into peices and dissolved in boiling nitric acid. The fuel atoms (U and Pu) are chemically separated from the rest of the liquid and sent back to be put into new fuel. The leftover (Cs et. al.) liquid is what gets vitrified. To my knowledge no reprocessing plant (private or government) has been able to do the separation without really crapping things up. Hanford is a disaster area, as is Rocky Flats and Savannah River. Even at West Valley (NY, the only ever privately owned reprocessing facility in the U.S.) has a very large plume of Sr 90 in the groundwater, on it’s way to the great lakes. Bottom line, it is still not without serious risk that historically we have not been able to overcome.

  82. 82
    LC Monster Kabasue growls and barks:

    Ok Salvage here is the challange, I live 10 minutes from work, I can and have biked it under a hour. Part of my job is to remove half ton to a ton of electronic parts to the recycler. Show me a bike or a hybred truck that can do it please. Your price cap is 18k, must be able to fit 3 dogs, 1 cat and a wife. To make things harder a 2 car soution is out of the question for insurance reasons.

  83. 83
    LC Scotty growls and barks:

    OMFG

    Dan Rather just linked Tsunamis and (wait for it…) global warming. Unreal

  84. 84
    Red (State) Army NCO growls and barks:

    Rather is a freakin’ moron. I suppose he didn’t bother to link tsunamis to the massive fuckin’ earthquake that preceeded them.

    Scotty – Excellent analysis. Unfortunately no matter what is said about the safety of going nuke, the liberal response is always “think of the children! The children!”

  85. 85
    LC TripleNeckSteel growls and barks:

    I just learned something about the US, thanks to our noble Eurobuddies at the UNecessary–

    We’re stingy.

    “If, actually, the foreign assistance of many countries now is 0.1 or 0.2 percent of the gross national income, I think that is stingy, really,” he said. “I don’t think that is very generous.”

    Then, this unconscionable Cock-knocker said:

    Egeland said that in the United States, Europe, and elsewhere, politicians ‘believe that they are burdening the taxpayers too much and that the taxpayers want to give less. That’s not true. They want to give more.”

    We want to give more? WTF???

    Maybe the LLL wants the more fortunate among us to surrender more of our earnings to their diabolical little redistribution scheme, but I sure as hell don’t feel like complying.

    I love how the EU clings to positions like “Principle over action” in the cases of Kosovo, or Rwanda, where they dickered over the formality of intervening while people died, and now this “You don’t give a high enough percentage of your wealth to international aid” bull-shite.

    Here it is one last time for you microcephalic EUroTards who can’t seem to figure it out:

    We give the most in dollar amounts. Period.

    When good intentions and noble principles put food on tables, overthrow dictatorial regimes, and rescue natural-disaster victims, I’ll be the first one to come out in favor of converting our UN contributions into the EU currency of “noble intent” over actual dollars

    But as long as it’s dollars– my fucking dollars at that– that actually buys shit, we’ll stick to giving money, as opposed to mindless platitudes and pronouncements.

    The sheer nerve of this pussy to use what is perhaps the worst natural disaster in modern history as a platform for his US-bashing makes me want to nuke whatever country this festering fuckstick comes from.

    MUST. DESTROY. UN.

    LC TNS

  86. 86
    LC mrs heather, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Let’s hope Dandy Dan gets the “care” he needs when he retires.

    What an idiot.

  87. 87
    LC Scotty growls and barks:

    NCO,

    Thanks. Nuclear power is just like anything else. If you do it correctly, it is cheap, safe and efficient. If you do it wrong, the consequences are dire (see Chernobyl). The trick is, how does one ensure it’s done correctly? I have a pretty low opinion of beaurocrats in general, but the NRC has done a pretty good job to date. Even TMI was (in retrospect) inconsequential.

    I was floored when I heard what rather said. Literally, I tripped while walking through my living room. Something about rising ocean levels making this worse… So, I raise ocean levels 3 or 4 inches, and that significantly worsens the 30 FOOT wave passing through my livingroom? How is it that anybody listens to this special ed case?

  88. 88
    DumbAss Tanker growls and barks:

    Heh, I’m waiting to see how Blather and the DUmmies are going to formulate a story that Asteroid 2004 MN4 is Bush’s/America’s fault, now that it’s a more immediate threat thna global warming (25 years vice a century or so).

  89. 89
    kschlenker growls and barks:

    The asteroid got downgraded; they can’t blame that one on Bush.

  90. 90
    DANEgerus growls and barks:

    Venezuelan oil pays for 11,000 Cuban ‘advisors’ that helped fix the election…

    Thankyou Jimmy Carter

  91. 91
    LC Mary in LA, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Diagonal pipeline from Florida, anyone? :-)

  92. 92
    LC BattleofthePyramids growls and barks:

    Thanks for all the info about nuclear power. As for the waste processing/storage problem, I read somewhere, (the Economist?) about a “pebble-bed reactor” using encased spent fuel. Anyone know anything about this? It sounded interesting, at any rate.

    If we are not going to use nuclear fission (I assume fusion is at least a couple of decades away, maybe a lot longer) then what about resources we do have?

  93. 93
    JosephMendiola growls and barks:

    The USA is “stingy” – hmmmmmm, so the only true Cold War superpower now hyperpower +, and nation whose citizens supposedly give more in private donations to UN aid, dev, and humanitarian programs per annum than the next 15 nations combined, is stingy??? As for CUBA, all depends on whether Fidelian Communism can avoid NK-style pending SOLYENT GREEN crisis a’fore the oil can be pumped up in enough quantities to be econ worthwhile to the Cuban masses – nothing says luvin, Marxism and Socialism like “Long Pigs/Cows” dripping red gravy, courtesy of Der StalinReich Martha-Frau POTUS Hillary and her Betty Crocker-crats!?

  94. 94
    LC Mamapajamas growls and barks:

    LC Scotty, re: “Vitrification (the glass method he described) is unparallelled for dealing with liquid waste. The matrix is stable and could conceivably last for well over 100,000 years. Since the overwhelming majority of activity in snf is from short lived (i.e. half life iunder a few thousand years) fission fragments (Cs-137, Sr-90) and decay products of actinides (Am-241) this time span is sufficient.”

    Fascinating discussion. But…

    …is it just me, or isn’t an energy source with a half life of a few thousand years an answer waiting for someone smart enough to ask the right questions?

  95. 95
    Special Ed, Half-Vast Conspirator growls and barks:

    OT. Have been observing Atrios’ Eschaton for a few weeks. My objective take:

    Self-deluding narcissistic hypocrites.

    IOW, they talk a good game, but the anecdotes they relate from their personal lives absolutely refute their stated values. They say they want liberty, equality, and fraternity for all, but really only want whatever is good for themselves.

    Of course, lots of people do this, but most will admit it when confronted with damning evidence. Not so Eschatonians. Self-deluding.

    And of course, I could just be reading things wrong. I could be self-delusional. But I don’t think so. How effective is self-evaluation for the delusional, anyway?

  96. 96
    kschlenker growls and barks:

    I finally gave up reading Atrios months ago. I think their tinfoil hats melted into their heads. Made my blood pressure go up–and considering I am typing this from a hospital room after a probable heart attack, I don’t need the stress.

  97. 97
    DumbAss Tanker growls and barks:

    The asteroid got downgraded; they can’t blame that one on Bush.

    Posted by kschlenker at December 27, 2004 11:02 PM

    Nah, now the story will be how the foresight and daring of Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and John Kerry saved us all from certain death at the hands of the evil Rovian asteroid.
    As I read JPL’s info, prior to impact being ruled out, the orbit crossing would’ve been at 21:36 (GMT I assume) with the rock coming in more or less directly from the night side, so it would’ve landed on the opposite side of the globe from teh US anyway…clear evidence that it was all a vile racist Republican plot to suppress the vote (or something)!

  98. 98
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    OT – mrs heather, thanks for the Dum Yeah alert.

    Reading his insipid drivel brought back memories of the crap he used to post here before we made him lose his mind.

    You’d think that after being run off so many blogs, he’d finally get the message and lose the effiminate snarkiness that just invites ridicule and derision.

    Taunting him to oblivion will be (as usual) a great pleasure.

    (Unless Aaron gives me a “cease and desist” order, that is.)

    ;)

  99. 99
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    That’s “effeminate”

    PIMF

  100. 100
    night heron growls and barks:

    Screw GREENPEACE why should they want to prevent us from drilling in the ANWR? they just sit spreading their damn lies and send us pictures of the supposed area and its wildlife and ask us to oppse the drilling so where are those greenpests up there demonstrating at the UN who is one place where busy whikers castro is welcome with open arms frankly those greenpeace jerks can sail the garbage scow RAINBOW WARRIOR II into a minefeild or just go ram it into a iceberge

  101. 101
    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Damn kschlenker–cruising the ‘net from your hospital bed…? Now THAT’S devotion to the cause! ;-)

    Seriously though–I sincerely hope that you feel better soon, hon. *hug* His Imperial Kitty-ness needs his Mama to help him heal!

    –TwoDragons

  102. 102
    LC Scotty growls and barks:

    LC Mamapajamas,

    That is something that we half-jokingly kick around the office (I work at the West Valley Project). Those vitrified logs of glass throw off a lot of heat generated by the decay of the fission products contained inside them. Each log generates about 300 W of heat from decay, 300 “logs” gives us a 90 kW heat source. That is one heck of a hot water pre-heater.

  103. 103
    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    Global pollution can be greatly decreased by simply sending all the stupid leftists to some other planet :p. I mean just getting rid of Moore alone would reduce methane emissions by a factor of ten.

    An excessive amount of stupid leftists who shouldn’t even be breathing our oxygen… there’s the real problem. These people Pollute our Gene Pool. ;)

  104. 104
    Um Yeah growls and barks:

    elle boy, did you get your very own momagramed noose for Gift Giving Day?

    Would u put it around my neck, please? im wasting to much oxygen!!!

  105. 105
    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    Um Yeah, I would direct you to read my last post on this thread. If you would like some advice on how you can terminate your own life, I would recommend Ruger P89 to the cranium. Failing that, perhaps dining on antifreeze or jumping off a building at least a minim of 50 stories high would suffice.

    Don’t waste oxygen, food and sewage space by continuing to live Um Yeah. After all, there are monkeys in Butt Fuck Egypt who are more deserving of it.

    You’ve been told by LC Xealot ™

  106. 106
    Sam growls and barks:

    I used to cycle to work every day in London (OK – every day except for about 5 when it was really wet!). It was faster than a bus or the tube, about the same as driving on a good traffic day, and you don’t have to pay half your salary to park a bike. Plus it kept me slightly less unfit. It also kept me significantly less poor, as I didn’t need to own or insure a car.

    I now live near Chicago. I drive. There’s probably about 2 months a year when the temperature would make cycling reasonable, but on a random selection of those, it will rain suddenly and very heavily. Plus it would take me about an hour, which is a little longer than I’d like to spend on my commute. Given that I have to own and insure a car anyway, the marginal cost of driving to work is small.

    Sometimes, the bicycle is the best tool for the job. Sometimes, it just isn’t. The suburban US is just too spread out for a bicycle to be a practical main form of transport.

  107. 107

    Sam, you’re wasting your (virtual) breath. The reality that biking is not always practical (or even possible) is entirely lost on the people who need to hear it.

    They don’t care how impossible it is, if you’d just shut up and do it, it would work precisely as they said and it’s all your own fault for not just realizing that. Don’t tell them you can’t transport their organically grown produce to the marketplace in the basket of a bike dammit — if you’d simply do it they’d be right!

  108. 108
    kschlenker growls and barks:

    Thanks Lady Denita. Yes, I am cruising from my hospital bed. It is much, much better to have this beat up Solo and have something to do rather than sit here bored half to death.

    HIK Wayne is doing great. His hair is longer, he weighs around seven pounds, and he is definitely lord and master (in his own mind). He is a real character. The only trouble he has is when Jessica goes anywhere. He is extremely attached to her.

  109. 109
    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Aw hon, I’ll keep you and the little tiger in my prayers! I’m sorry 2004 has been such a rough year for you. I sincerely hope ’05 turns out to be MUCH better! *hugs*

    –TwoDragons

  110. 110
    LC the Humble Devildog growls and barks:

    Am I the only who notices that the people who tell us we should ride our bikes to work, don’t?

    The essence of liberalism: Everyone else needs to do what the liberal thinks is important. The liberal always excuses themselves from the labour.

    I could maybe ride my bike to work, for about three months of the year. In the winter, it’s too cold, and in the summer, I certainly don’t want to show up to work already overheated and dehydrated. Besides, it would take me an extra hour to get to work (my current commute is only 15 minutes…on a highway), and that would mean I would have approximately 8 hours of non-work or non-commuting time each day…and I would still have to eat, shower, get ready for work, get UNready from work, and then, find some time to sleep. I’m not sure y’all would be comfortable with a person driving a 50,000lb vehicle on 10 hours of sleep per workweek…just a hunch, though.

  111. 111
    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    True dat, HDD–my husband works 12-hour compressed shifts at a major semiconductor company, and it’s already an hour’s drive from home. Not to mention his Epstein-Barre virus (think persistent mononucleosis) sorta precludes him from doing too much strenuous exercise with too little sleep. If he does, he not only makes himself sick, he spreads the EB love to anyone he comes in contact with–including people at work. Certainly NOT a good idea for him to try bicycling to work under those conditions!

    I notice Slabbage hasn’t spoken up in defense of his cockamamie bicycling bullshit since we shot it down, though. I’d say he’s not going to be biking anywhere anytime soon until his ass regenerates… ;-)

    –TwoDragons

  112. 112
    Blogesota growls and barks:

    WhoreyWood Elitist Fuckwits

    What does that mean? Were you expected to hear from Sean Penn or something?

    BTW: The same people who deliver your news to ya also deliver the “whorey” stuff.

    Did you really say “Camel-fellaters”? Racist shit like that makes you the subject of hate from the Left. We hate you because you earn it, baby!

  113. 113
    LC mrs heather, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Oh good, yet another troll to kick around. Where’s Zhorik?

    Blogslut,

    Anyone can be a camel fellater. Wouldn’t surprise me a bit if the white HoreyWood Fucks were into a little bestiality…

    We actually prefer the term “little brown people” around here if you must know./sarcasm

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    LC the Humble Devildog growls and barks:

    Blogsot,

    If a religion and culture actually have to have rules on what to do with animals after a man has copulated with them (the Quran has such rules…), then calling them camel-fellators isn’t too much of a stretch. You don’t see rules on how to what to do with the target of someone’s bestiality fetish in Western culture, do you? Didn’t think so.

    Oh, and Leftists hate anyone who isn’t a Leftard. Liberalism is based on hate, for without hate, the Left wouldn’t have anything to talk about. “Why behold the mote in your brother’s eye, but ignore the beam in your own eye?” You should really learn what those words mean.

  115. 115
    B.C., Imperial Torturer? growls and barks:

    *Sniff* Did someone just shit on the carpet? Oh, it was just a Leftist Fuckweasel who got sodomized by a camel at a young age.

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Blogesota hates us!

    OH NO!

    Now we can never be part of the “hip liberal elite”!

    What’s a poor hate-mongering conservative “red-stater to do?!?!?!?!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

    ATTENTION LEFTIST MOONBAT!

    We don’t give a shit if a collection of lying, hypocritical, braindead, sloganeering, hand-wringing, whining liberal asshats “hates” us.

    You want to know why?

    It’s the fact that you are irrelevant.

    President Bush won the election and there’s nothing you can do about it.

    Four more years, baby!

    Enjoy!

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    LC Scotty growls and barks:

    LC Devildog,

    Actually, (IIRC) the book of Leviticus does address what to do with people and animals after “relations”. I don’t have a Bible here at work, but I will look when I get home.

  118. 118
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Uh oh, I think this thread is about to take an ominous turn……..

    ;)

  119. 119
    LC Scotty growls and barks:

    cue the theme from Jaws…

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    LC Ron growls and barks:

    rules on what to do with animals after a man has copulated with them (the Quran has such rules…)

    Did I skip that page or something? Well, I did fall asleep on it a few times. I mean, after the 50th or so threat of hellfire, I could almost see when it was coming.

  121. 121
    LC Ron growls and barks:

    the book of Leviticus does address what to do with people and animals after “relations”.

    I really need to pay more attention when I read religious texts. Im missing all this hilarious stuff.

  122. 122
    LC Ron growls and barks:

    Scotty, I found what they do after relations with animals in the Bible. Its in Exodus, though.

    ?Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.?

    Of course, I welcome any contradictory findings you may unearth.

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    LC Ron growls and barks:

    DD, so far I have one source that says there is NO mention of bestiality in the Koran. This page is fascinating, if you can get past the advertising at the top(porn).

    http://catsgarden.xxxratedhost.com/public/stories/beasts_in_history.html

    That I am having trouble finding sources corroborating what you said leads me to think that it aint true.

    Yes, E-Man, you are correct. I apologize for my active contribution to it. I couldnt resist such crazy claims.

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    LC Scotty growls and barks:

    Lev. 20:15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall be surely put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

    I only remember it because, well it’s memorable. Happy new year, all.

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    LC the Humble Devildog growls and barks:

    *sigh*

    Okay, the Bible/Torah does have rules on how to deal with bestiality. Contrast it, though, with with Islam’s holy book. I don’t remember the surah, but, there is a surah in the Quran that says the beast is to be killed, but not eaten. The bestiality twit is okay.

    Remember, the Quran was written by a man who married, and had “relations” with, a nine year old girl. Allah told him it was okay. Really, he did.

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    LC Ron growls and barks:

    I think youre remembering something that Khomeini said in one of his books, but it wasn’t the Koran, DD. Far be it from me to defend a fucked up book like the Koran, but we shouldnt bother misrepresenting a book whose follower do such a nice job of it themselves.

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    LC Scotty growls and barks:

    LC DD,

    I wasn’t trying to draw comparisons. To my mind there is no comparison between islam and Judeo/Christianity. It was just that your post jogged something in my memory.


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