If At First You Don’t Succeed…

Then you go right back in and kill some more of the murdering terrorswinian bastards. Works for us.

Israel sent tanks and bulldozers back into Gaza’s Khan Younis refugee camp early Wednesday, just three days after ending a raid there in response to rocket and mortar fire by Palestinian militants.

Israeli forces in the camp killed three Palestinians, including two gunmen, Palestinian security forces said. Six Palestinians were wounded.

That’s three “confirmed” and six “also rans” for the scoreboard.

Israeli bulldozers also destroyed several homes in the camp. About 20 Palestinians demonstrated there carrying Palestinian and British flags and demanding Blair stop the demolitions.

Now there’s some theater of the absurd, if you ask us. A bunch of drooling, murdering fuckwads demanding that Tony Blair come rescue them from their just desserts. Who else? Santa Claus? The Pope?

Israel’s earlier raid into the camp killed 11 Palestinians, most of them militants. But the rocket fire resumed after the army pulled out of the camp Sunday.

They just don’t learn, do they?

Fire rockets -> Get seriously hurt and/or dead.

Now, any remotely sentient organism found in a research lab will quickly learn that maybe action A, seeing as how it tends to lead to reaction B, maybe wasn’t such a bright idea to begin with.

But we forget, we’re not talking about sentient beings here.

Let’s give them a state, shall we?

141 comments

  1. 1
    TheSoldier growls and barks:

    Hotdamn! Now that just made my day, a couple more scumbags sent off to hell to collect their 72 Arafat lookalike virgin sheep.

    What I want to know is where is the Saint Rachel Corrie Flat Fucktard Brigades? Gotta let the dozer drivers have a bit of fun too!

    First!

  2. 2
    Zelda growls and barks:

    I wish the U.S. would just allow Israel to destroy these hoodlums once and for all, just like we’re trying to do in Iraq.

  3. 3
    Cameron growls and barks:

    err…Two problems with that statement.

    1. Israel is a sovreign nation and they don’t answer to us. If they decided to wipe these people out they don’t need our approval.

    2. The U.S. is not trying to destroy Iraq in spite of what most media outlets want folks to think.

  4. 4
    Cameron growls and barks:

    And I should not post when I have not had enough coffee in my system. I misread that part about “destroying hoodlums.” You are quite right; those should be destroyed quite thoroughly.

    Please accept my apologies for my mistake.

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    steven harper growls and barks:

    I dont know why you guys are confused why they are fighting. The Jews fought the Brits when they occupied Palestine including blowing up the King David Hotel with a ton o’ civilians in it. And the Brits retaliated by summarily shooting suspected Jewish fighters although I dont think they used large scale home demolitions. The Arabs are no different be they Christian or Muslim. Most of the Communist and secular fighting groups like the PFLP were founded and are led by Christians. Wouldn’t you fight to the death if someone occupied your land. Most people do so dont be surprised or confused by human nature.

  6. 6
    LC Gunsniper growls and barks:

    steven:

    What is this “Palestine” you speak of? Did you perhapes mean Palatine? (in Illinois, although I haven’t heard of any rocket attacks there)

  7. 7
    aelfheld growls and barks:


    [...] their just desserts [...]

    Too many s’s.

  8. 8
    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    The stupidity of the terrorists is just staggering to contemplate. I mean this article is one great example:

    Fire Rockets. Die. Fire more rockets. More die. etc…

    But this is coming from the same group of people who commit suicide bombings. Now let me see if I can understand this… That old lady with her cane (obviously a deadly offensive weapon) and that young baby with a pacifier (symbol of WhiteChristianJewishBushHitler oppression) poses such an enormous threat to your civilization that you strap a bomb to your body and commit suicide in order to eliminate them.

    And to top if all off, you then expect the world to be nice to you! Suddenly you get angry when the Israel decides to shoot at you. “Why are they shooting at me, I only ordered suicide bombings that killed a mere several hundred Israelis. Maybe if I wave the French (white) Flag Chirac will come down from the sky and make the USA and Israel go away.”

    And even more, you expect to go to heaven! You don’t go to heaven holding the bloody heads of innocents and expect to get in. “Ya gee Lord, uh… I mean that Baby was a threat to my people! I mean, he could have grown up to be an Accountant or a Car Mechanic! Such a terrible threat!”

    There may be intelligent life on Earth, but I don’t think there’s any in Palestine.

  9. 9
    Leo growls and barks:

    I remember the whole Rachel Corrie thing and that poem that was on here in response to the poem written about her. “The Caterpillerization of Saint Pancake”. God, that was an awesome poem.

  10. 10
    Um Yeah growls and barks:

    End the rascist and zionist occupation of Palistine!

  11. 11
    Scott growls and barks:

    Dum Yeah…. All I gotta say is poor St Pancake, Godess of Liberal Losers.

  12. 12
    Um Yeah growls and barks:

    Dum Yeah…. All I gotta say is poor St Pancake, Godess of Liberal Losers.

    WTF? your answer to life is a rascist attack on Aunt Jemima?

    Try to be coherint and make sense!

  13. 13
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    Sorry, my text books must be out of date…Where exactly is this Palestine? What were it’s borders? Whom was ever their leader? What are the dates of the existence of this country? The closest thing to a correct answer I can come up with is Jordan, and it seems the Palestinians are Arab peoples that none of their fellow states want anything to do with..
    And as for the logic of ‘granting’ anyone a state, Google “Ralph Peters”…..it might take a few minutes, but you’ll find his article relating to the irrationality of ‘granting’ a state to anyone…( the closest thing I can give you for a link, off hand, is http://www.carlisle.army.mil)

  14. 14
    LC mrs heather, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    I wish I could say that the creation of a “Palestine” would be for our laughing pleasure.

    Like france.

  15. 15
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    I dont know why you guys are confused why they are fighting.

    Who’s fighting?

    So far, all I can see is a bunch of kaffiyeh’ed kamelfuckers blowing up women and children. That may constitute “fighting” in your world, but it sure doesn’t in mine.

    The Jews fought the Brits when they occupied Palestine…

    What “Palestine?”

    Whither “Palestine?”

    …including blowing up the King David Hotel with a ton o’ civilians in it.

    …a bunch of civilians who hadn’t been evacuated in spite of a clear and timely warning that it would go “boom”, if I remember correctly.

    Standard procedure in civilized countries is to evacuate when you receive a bomb threat, no matter how kooky the threat might seem.

    And the Brits retaliated by summarily shooting suspected Jewish fighters although I dont think they used large scale home demolitions. The Arabs are no different be they Christian or Muslim.

    The Arabs are no different?

    From whom?

    The Jews? Did we miss the part where the Jews declared openly that their goal was to exterminate all Arabs? Did we miss the part where the Jews started deliberately targeting Arab women and children?

    Most of the Communist and secular fighting groups like the PFLP were founded and are led by Christians.

    Asking you to substantiate that strange claim aside, I really don’t care if they were worshippers of the Giant Three-Headed Monkey of the Fabled Continent of Mu.

    Wouldn’t you fight to the death if someone occupied your land.

    I most certainly would.

    But my targets wouldn’t be toddlers and pensioners on the way home from the local synagogue.

    Most people do so dont be surprised or confused by human nature.

    “Human?”

  16. 16
    LC EFA growls and barks:

    WTF? your answer to life is a rascist attack on Aunt Jemima?

    Try to be coherint and make sense!

    Should follow your own advice Bum Hair.

  17. 17
    LC BattleofthePyramids growls and barks:

    Israel is being far too nice! They need to start playing the game of war by Arab, read Hama, rules. For every terrorist attack, level the city it originated in. Lather, rinse, repeat as needed.

    Steven harper:
    1. It’s NOT their land, and it never was. There was never, throughout all of recorded history, an independent Arab state named “palestine”.

    Um yeah:
    1. The reference is to terror enabler Rachel Corrie, who tried to protect Palestinian weapon smuggling tunnels from Israeli bulldozers and died due to her own stupidity and lust to kill Jews. Rachel Corrie, was, by the way, white. Please stop looking for racism where it does not exist.

    2. There is no “occupation” of Palestine, unless you contend that a country under attack by Muslims can take no action to defend itself.

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    steven harper growls and barks:

    Who’s fighting?
    So far, all I can see is a bunch of kaffiyeh’ed kamelfuckers blowing up women and children. That may constitute “fighting” in your world, but it sure doesn’t in mine.

    well I was responding to your comments about a rocket attack on Israeli soldiers. I never denied there was large scale brutality on both sides. Cetianity more Palestinian children who have not been involved in fighting have been killed then Israeli children although that doesn’t make much diffrence, each death is brutal crime. check out the Israeli site http://www.btselem.org and look at the statistics link.

    What “Palestine?”

    Whither “Palestine?”

    well look in any history book buddy and look at a map before 1948 the land is called Palestine. This is what the Brits and the Arabs called it and interestly Jews as well. There was the Palestine opera-all Jews of course- and the all-Jewish Palestinian Birgade fought alongside the British Army. That’s the Palestine Im refrerring to as the time area I was talking about was pre-1948. What would you call it?

    point taken about the King David Hotel but if they really didn’t want to kill civilians, they would not have put expolsives in the building. And I could always bring up Deir Yassin- 254 dead civilians- not too pretty certianly everyone has blood on their hands.

    I cant say thats a strange a claim just look at George Habash founder of the PFLP. Many of his fighters were Christians. Involved in hijackings, supermarket bombings, and the 72 Munich hostage taking and massacare. In the Lebanese Civil War Christians showed themselves as capable of a bloody masscare as anyone in the area. Although your right it doesn’t really matter who is doing the killing.

    I agree that bombing of civilian areas is despicable. But these days no one care about the rules of war not the Israelis, Americans, Palestinians or the Iraqis.

    Yeah I hate break it to you but Palestinians are human. And like all humans they are capable of great violence. And like most humans they dont like being occupied. So dont be surprised if a rocket is fired after an Israeli incursion. If Israel has the right to defend itself then so do the Palestinians.

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    toad growls and barks:

    Yes, can’t wait till they have their own state. It will help concentrate and identify the targets.
    It wil probably immediatly become labeled a “terrorist state” and have to deal with economic sanctions from the US, at least through the rest of the Bush term. The head of the state of “Paleoretardia ?” will find out it ain’t as easy as it looks. ‘Cause there will be some of his people onto him about jobs and lack o money. I wonder how many Muslim countries are going to recognize a “I’m from Stupidia” passport?
    Can we have a name the new state contest?

  20. 20
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    Steven,
    (Here’s history from a know-nothing’s point of view..)

    You state that :

    So dont be surprised if a rocket is fired after an Israeli incursion. If Israel has the right to defend itself then so do the Palestinians.

    I’m pretty sure there would be no Israeli ‘incursions’ if their civilians weren’t being killed. It’s really ugly, but they hit back when attacked…So, no attacks, no response..

    As far as my limited history knowledge, maybe you or someone can enlighten me: I thought ‘Palestine’ was a Brittish construct, or ‘re-mapping’ of the area if you will. I really don’t know the boundaries,rulers or dates of existence of any people having a country called Palestine. Like I mentioned earlier, I thought Palestinians were displaced Arab people, unwanted by any of the local Arab countries..
    It seems the Arab countries in the region use them as an excuse to continue attacks on Israel…they don’t allow them into their coutries. They force them to live in those camps, or whatever the term is, just to make them despise and blame Israel for their plight.

    To me it seems the ‘Palestinians’ are unfortunate Arab people being pawns in an Arab assult on the existance of Israel..
    Comments, corrections, thoughts?

  21. 21
    Andreas Brecht growls and barks:

    Steven

    If this realy had been

    a rocket attack on Israeli soldiers

    it was probably a rocket which missed the Kindergarten, against which it was originally aimed.

    I never denied there was large scale brutality on both sides

    Can you state just one example for Israeli ‘brutality’.

    each death is brutal crime

    The death of a terrorist prevents brutal crimes.

    well look in any history book buddy

    If you had done this, you would have noticed that ‘Palestine’ was NO state and that 80 % of ‘Palestine’ now belong to the kingdom of Jordan. So why can’t these so called Palestinians leave their ‘refugee’ camps and move to Jordan?
    After Germany lost WW2 we integrated more than 4 Millions of refugees from Ostpreuen and Pommern. I’d really love to read your comments about a hypothetic Germany, which had these people in camps for 50 years and trained them as terrorist infiltrators into Poland and Russia.

    point taken about the King David Hotel but if they really didn’t want to kill civilians, they would not have put expolsives in the building

    Another look in the history book might have revealed to you the fact that at this time the King David Hotel was the headquarter of the Brits and therefor a legitmate military target.

    Deir Yassin- 254 dead civilians

    So you do believe this fabrication. Do you? Realy? Time for yet another look in a history book.

    But these days no one care about the rules of war not the Israelis, Americans

    And today everyone’s a protestant – even the Pope, gras is purple and you know the world.

    I cant say thats a strange a claim just look at George Habash founder of the PFLP. Many of his fighters were Christians

    Who cares he and his ‘fighters’ (you meant terrorists, did you not), are dead meat sooner(=better) or later.

    If Israel has the right to defend itself then so do the Palestinians.

    Who on earth is attacking ‘Palestinians’. They do the attacking – against victims, who cannot defend themselves – and as long as the ‘Palestinians’ do absolutely zilch against thes murdering swine (no Sir THEY are not human in my world) Israel has any right to hunt down and kill them.

  22. 22
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    End the rascist and zionist occupation of palistine!

    WTF? youranswer to life is a rascist attack on Aunt Jemima?

    Try to be coherint and make sense!

    The above two posts confirm that Um Yeah was born a brain-damaged crackbaby.

    Years of therapy have had no effect so he may as well hang a sign saying “I’M A MORON!” around his neck.

    Scratch that. The pickle suit he wears when handing out coupons serves the same purpose.

  23. 23
    Scott2 growls and barks:

    Sorry to Steven Harper – a valiant attempt to pitch an argument for the PLO Arabs. However, when the facts are presented instead of hearsay ? it all collapses.A lot of emphasis on getting us to understand and justify the constant and deliberate policy of killing innocent people in the name of their cause. In all the blogs, I?ve never seen a real argument stack up for the PLO Arabs. I once didn?t have an opinion, but these days I do.

  24. 24
    LC Tsuki Hoseki growls and barks:

    check out the Israeli site http://www.btselem.org and look at the statistics link.

    Tsuki is not sure whether to laugh, or puke.

    Calling B’Tselem “Israeli” is like calling John Kerry an “American.” It is true in name only, and certainly NOT in any sense of loyalty or genuine attachment.

    The people who run B’Tselem — which is also called “The Israeli Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories” — are the very same kind of disloyal, hand-wringing, “What did we do to deserve this?” sort of cowards as those in America who oppose the War in Iraq. They are enemy sympathizers, who condemn the actions of their own nation while resolutely ignoring the evils of their nation’s enemy. From their own site’s “About” page:

    “Why don’t you also defend Israelis?”

    Where rights of residents of the Occupied Territories are affected, B’Tselem does not distinguish between Palestinian and Israeli victims. Over the years of the occupation, the Israeli authorities have been guilty of widespread and severe violation of human rights of Palestinians, while at the same time have given preferential treatment to Israeli settlers, whose settlement in occupied territory is itself a breach of international law. Despite this, when Israel violates the rights of Israelis in the Occupied Territories, B’Tselem takes the appropriate actions to attempt to end the violations.

    The emphasis was added by Tsuki. The first underlined portion is simply a brazen lie, but advancing such a lie establishes their position quite well. The second underlined portion proves it: They are not interested in any “Human Rights Violations” that might be committed by the Palestinians, against Israelis or anyone else — and in fact they don’t even acknowledge that such a thing ever occurs. Their only interest is in condemning the Israeli government. Their own government. That makes them traitors, not only to their own nation, but to the “Human Rights” ideals they claim to uphold.

    Tsuki has no need to listen to statistics from traitors and hypocrites.

    ?look at a map before 1948 the land is called Palestine.

    Because that is what the British chose to call it when they took it. It was not what any of its occupants — Jewish or Arab — called the place; and it was not a nation, it was an Imperial holding. There has never been a “Nation of Palestine.” NEVER.

    Those “Palestinians” on whose behalf you’re whining are former residents of Egypt and Jordan — who would still be living in Egypt and Jordan if those two countries (among others) hadn’t decided to try for a third time to destroy the Nation of Israel in 1967.

    ?I could always bring up Deir Yassin- 254 dead civilians?

    You did bring it up; and Tsuki is glad you did, because it is a lie.

    In the midst of Israel’s War of Independence in 1948, the village of Dir Yassin was being used by Arab militants to stage attacks against nearby Jewish villages. The Haganah decided to clear the place, and attacked it. Before attacking it, they used loudspeakers to warn the non-combatants within Dir Yassin to get out. Hundreds did, but hundreds more did not.

    Any subsequent civilian casualties are therefore the fault of the civilians who chose to stay, despite being warned to leave.

    More importantly though, your claim of “254 dead” is a grotesque exaggeration:

    The number killed has been confirmed even by Palestinian Arab researchers, such as Bir Zeit University professor Sharif Kanaana who puts the number no higher than 120 (although he clings to the claim of massacre). Another contemporary Arab source deflates the number killed to less than 100, stating, after a count, “that there were no more than 46 corpses”. The head of the coroner unit, professor Yehoshua Arieli, testified that the number was 110.

    Since you chose to believe the ridiculous “254″ figure, Tsuki is surprised you did not also choose to believe the Arab lies that the Jewish fighters cut women’s bellies open, and butchered babies in front of their mothers, and bayoneted 25 pregnant women in their stomachs. The Arabs like to say these things too, along with the “254″ number of dead, when they find such a receptive audience as you to listen to their lies.

    It was 120 dead, at most — and many of those were militants (unless you want to claim that all of the Arab militants fled upon being warned by the Jews that they were about to be attacked, in which case Tsuki would ask you how the same battle could have resulted in 4 dead Jews and 40 others wounded), so it was hardly the massacre of innocent “civilians” that you lament.

    However many civilians were killed, it is their own fault for refusing to leave a battle scene after being warned to do so; and it is also the fault of the Arab militants who chose to make their camp among non-combatants.

    So go whine about Dir Yassin to somebody who doesn’t know the facts.

    ?these days no one care about the rules of war not the Israelis, Americans, Palestinians or the Iraqis.

    That too is a lie. Neither the Israelis nor the Americans ever deliberately target civilians in military actions. Targeting civilians is standard operating procedure for Palestinians and Iraqi insurgents, though.

    Your inability (or refusal?) to see the distinction says quite a lot about you.

    Before you open your mouth about Israel on this forum again, Tsuki suggests you acquaint yourself with its history; and because she is feeling generous, she will even point you to an excellent website where you may do so: Palestine Facts.

    Now go away. Tsuki is done with you.

  25. 25
    Walter E. Wallis growls and barks:

    It is not compassionate to cut off a puppy’s tail an inch at a time, nor to fight a proportionate war. Do the enemy the courtesy of a defeat so overwhelming he need not be ashamed of laying down his arm.

  26. 26
    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    A little late here but I will add my 2 anyway…

    Most of the Communist and secular fighting groups like the PFLP were founded and are led by Christians.

    I cannot refute that statement due to personal ignorance on the background of said individuals. However, I can tell you that there is no such thing as a Christian Communist. It is an oxymoron, the two are mutually exclusive. Nor are there any Christian terrorists. There are terrorists who claim to be Christians (i.e., the IRA). They either do not understand the concept of Christianity, or (more likely) are lying through their teeth. There have been many things throughout history done in the name of Christ that disgusted Him. This Communist you speak of may have thought he was a Christian, but I would guess that he knew otherwise, and was trying to make himself look better.

    Now go away. Tsuki is done with you.

    Excellent rebuttal, LC Tsuki. Especially that dismissal.

  27. 27

    Walter… that was profound… and almost beautiful.

  28. 28
    N. O'Brain, IMfUI growls and barks:

    LC Tsuki Hoseki

    Please remind me never to get you mad at me.

    Good job.

  29. 29
    LC Bishop, Imperial Titweasel growls and barks:

    OT; but Victor David Hanson pegs it yet again

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  31. 31
    Mike M growls and barks:

    Now go away. Tsuki is done with you.

    If the Emperor ever deems it appropriate to establish the position of Imperial Moonbat Eviscerator, I have a nominee.

  32. 32
    Mike M growls and barks:

    Thanks for the bit of enlightenment there, Um Yeah. That changes everything for me.

  33. 33
    Deji Pachi growls and barks:

    *sniff*

    What’s that awful smell? Oh, it’s Dum Yeah. I should’ve known.

  34. 34
    LC Scotty growls and barks:

    Does anyone else miss giggling while Israel played “whack-a-mole” with hamas leadership? I sure do.

  35. 35
    LC NeilV growls and barks:

    Dumb yeah is devolution in action,now he is channeling the Weekly World News headlines.
    He is fine entertainment for the holiday season.
    The moron sits at home watching wrestling while trolling the Rott to get his freak from the regs playing smack a mole,Run along pinyata boy .You are late for your gig at the fryer .
    As for the palis give them a country and when they continue to act up .Invade and shoot all the terrorists dead, then shrink there territory.
    Lather rinse repeat,They seem pretty stupid but two or Three slaps and they might figure it out.
    MAybe some of there memebers of the umamaa, will give them some land to make up for what they will loose to the evil Jooos.
    I kind of doubt it but they can hope.
    Until the pricks stop suicide bobmbing I say scatter them to the rest of the levant.
    Cheers from Sunny Tampa Bay

  36. 36
    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    Now go away. Tsuki is done with you.

    If the Emperor ever deems it appropriate to establish the position of Imperial Moonbat Eviscerator, I have a nominee.

    Second the motion.

  37. 37
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    um yeah…

    Isreel is steeling Palestinian children’s organs and selling to support Zionism!

    Spelling errors ignored, that is just so far off the planet I don’t even have to click on the BS link, and anyone who believes that drivel needs to triple their daily dose of thorazine and be put back in their nice,comfy, padded room…

    You amaze me with you ignorance, foolishness and sheer stupidity…but we all know you just post like that to get attention. Please seek mental health counseling..seriously.

  38. 38
    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    LC#2112-

    I was curious, so I checked. The link goes to an Iranian (…!) TV network. That just has to be the most reliable source of information this side of Joseph Goebbels.

  39. 39
    LC Scotty growls and barks:

    IT’S PEOPLE! SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

  40. 40
    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    LC Tsuki, you may be a relatively a recent entrant to the Loyal Citizenry, but you’re certainly filling those spike-heeled boots quite well! Reading your moonbat thrashings is a joy. The fact that you do so in that quirky third-person writing style is even funnier!

    It’s like watching the text version of a cute and perky Anime-style schoolgirl-type character (complete with short plaid skirt and curly pigtails) waltz up to some mouthbreathing drool-factory, produce an ominously oversize blunt weapon from the ether inside her purse, and smash him into gruesome and bloody bits. Too COOL! ;-)

    –TwoDragons

  41. 41
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    Thanks for checking the link LC Army NCO Guy…
    Just as I suspected…a totally reliable and honest source of information: Iran TV...
    ( I assume I don’t need a sarcasm tag on the bolded type?! :) )

  42. 42
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    LC Denita-( re: LC Tsuki)-

    The fact that you do so in that quirky third-person writing style is even funnier!

    Ditto. Usually third-person writing is irritating, but LC Tsuki did it in a most entertaining way!
    Thanks LC Tsuki !!

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    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    It’s like watching the text version of a cute and perky Anime-style schoolgirl-type character (complete with short plaid skirt and curly pigtails) waltz up to some mouthbreathing drool-factory, produce an ominously oversize blunt weapon from the ether inside her purse, and smash him into gruesome and bloody bits. Too COOL! ;-)

    LC TwoDragons, I get the same image because of her signoff. (^_^)

  45. 45
    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    Reality attaks Brian Reade for Being a Moron

  46. 46
    steven harper growls and barks:

    Well Tsuki I think you got your facts a little confused in this case with Deir Yassin. The attack was not carried out by the Haganah although some of their fighters reinforced it. The Irgun and Stern Gang carried this operation out. And it was carried out several weeks before the British mandate had ended. It was on May 14 when Israel declared independence that half a dozen Arab armies attacked and the 1948 war began. The 254 figure comes from the New York Times of April 13, 1948 when the bodies were buried. Although you are right about the 1987 study by Birzeit University found no more then 120 were killed this doesn’t really make the massacre so much better. You might not agree but the Haganah of the day would disagree:

    The Haganah leaders admitted that the massacre “disgraced the cause of Jewish fighters and dishonored Jewish arms and the Jewish flag.” They played down the fact that their militia had reinforced the terrorists’ attack, even though they did not participate in the barbarism and looting during the subsequent “mopping up” operations.

    About all of your comments about Palestine if you read my comments carefully you will find I never ever claimed that there was a independent state called Palestine. I was simply refering to the fact Jews were fighting the Brits in Palestine. Yes this is was the Brits called it and the Ottomans before them. And let me ask you all again what would you call pre-1948 Israel.

    Those “Palestinians” on whose behalf you’re whining are former residents of Egypt and Jordan — who would still be living in Egypt and Jordan if those two countries (among others) hadn’t decided to try for a third time to destroy the Nation of Israel in 1967.

    Now this is little confusing here. Are you seriously suggesting that there were no Arabs living in Palestine-sorry what is now called Israel- before the massive influx of Jewish immgriation in the first half of the 20th century. Only 5% of the population of modern day Israel was Jewish. Yes because of Jewish settlement and proparity there was some Arab immigration from Eygpt and Jordan. Like it or not but there were large number of Arabs and alot of them were removed or fled in the 48, 54, 67 wars. I would like to think you think they have some rights. Many people may riducle the so called right of return for refugees but any Jew in the world can fly to Israel and is entitled to Israeli citizenship. And the family who lived on the land for centuries is herded into some refugee camp. And as a disclaimer I am not saying Israeli is 100% to blame for this, surrounding Arab countries bare alot for this continuing crisis. I am just saying Arabs and Jews are equally responiable for this problem. There are no black and white hats just a lot of dirty grey hats.

    Their only interest is in condemning the Israeli government. Their own government. That makes them traitors, not only to their own nation, but to the “Human Rights” ideals they claim to uphold

    I laughed my ass off my chair when I read this. Wow. Wow. Well I just leave these tidbits.

    Loyalty to county always, loyalty to government…. when they deserve it. -Mark Twain

    Dissent is the highest form of patriotism -Thomas Jefferson

    I guess those guys were traitors like the Catholic university students in Nazi Germany who called themseleves the White Rose who distributed anti-Nazi leaflets and were gilloutined. They loved Germany and hated what the Nazi government was doing to it- so much so they were willing to risk death fighting Nazi rule. They predicted German cites would be reduced to ashes because of Nazi follies. Crazy traitors. Like John Kerry I guess. I’m not sure why you guy hate him so much I would put right of some of the Conservative Party of Canada. Hell you guys are one of the few congresses/ parliments with no socialists or social democrats in it. Up here a socialist bapist minister turned politican was voted Greatest Canadian. Crazy eh. But grad a cold beer Tsuki things just are not as black and white as you would like.

  47. 47
    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Oh look, yet another fucking moral equivalist trying to ling the whole “There Is No Such Thing As Black And White” bullshit at us again.

    Y’know, buddy, there IS such a thing as black and white:

    Killing toddlers and innocent women who have NOTHING to do with the conflict–Black.
    Trying to restrict one’s conflict to the people directly involved–White.
    Killing entire townships because someone insulted someone’s five-times-great-grand-uncle’s second wife’s nursemaid seven hundred years in the past–Black
    Trying desperately to form an alliance that sticks despite the fact that someone’s five-times-great-grand-uncle’s second wife’s nursemaid was insulted seven hundred years in the past–White
    Shari’a Law, with its emphasis on humiliation of anyone deemed to be an “infidel,” public executions of women and nonbelievers even remotely accused of the slightest of crimes while men openly brag of rape and beating, myriad addenda encouraging lying and cheating towards those who don’t practice the Muslim faith, and hundreds more morally-outrageous points too numerous to be counted here–Black
    Damn near any other Christian and Judaism-based faith, which has advanced over the centuries and has emphasis on family, clean hygeine, and strong social ties; remains a living faith that keeps up with changing times, and imposes strict punishment on those who would defile innocents and children–White.

    You strike me as the kind of bloody-shirt-waver who would have us thrown in chains and picking cotton for something our great-great-granddaddy might have done to a black man a hundred years ago. Can’t leave incidents from the distant past to lie beneath the dirt and get on with our lives, oh no. Those Crusades must still be fresh in your mind.

    –TwoDragons

  48. 48
    steven harper growls and barks:

    Two Dragons you might think Israel hasn’t done anything wrong but I am afraid Israel has done great injustice to the Palestinian people.

    You strike me as the kind of bloody-shirt-waver who would have us thrown in chains and picking cotton for something our great-great-granddaddy might have done to a black man a hundred years ago. Can’t leave incidents from the distant past to lie beneath the dirt and get on with our lives, oh no. Those Crusades must still be fresh in your mind.

    I happen to think what happened in Israel in the 20th century even before they existed is important because it is still relavent today. For an example the Paris Peace Conference lumped the Balkans into one country- Yugoslavia- and there are still problems with that today. The Slave Trade certianly demostrates the depths man will go for profit but it just is not too relavent in todays world. Although as to paraphrase Martin Luther King Jr- for centuries the white man has done something special against the negro and must do something special for the negro.
    All that aside history is very important to remember or else we are doomed to repeat it.

  49. 49
    LC Joseph Dromedary growls and barks:

    I guess those guys were traitors like the Catholic university students in Nazi Germany who called themseleves the White Rose who distributed anti-Nazi leaflets and were gilloutined. They loved Germany and hated what the Nazi government was doing to it- so much so they were willing to risk death fighting Nazi rule

    They White Rose alienated a lot of non-Nazis in German society because of their proclaimation that “We Are the Folk”. They were no more the embodiment of the ideals of “The Folk” than were the Spartacists or other Leftists.

    Similarly John Effing Kerry, also, sought the kudos for being of and for the “folk”. he was also rejected because he did no such thing.

    Strange how Leftists ALWAYS feel that they have The Truth and The Light and everyone else should accept that without prior or subsequent thought, being the uneducated and unwashed masses that we are.

    Sorry, the colour of the Red State/Blue State Map would suggest otherwise.

  50. 50
    LC Hunter Weapons Officer growls and barks:

    - So that the leftard asshats can read and learn, at least a little bit, before they open their mouths and sound so ignorant:

    Another little factiod to chew on is that even the word “Palestinian” historically refered to the JEWS of the area .. it is the corruption of a ROMAN label they gave the area after conquering the ISRAELITES … to name the area after the Jews enemies, the Philistines … as an insult and in the old fashion of trying to wipe out the history of a conquered people by destroying their buildings (the 2nd Temple) and renaming everything.

    Mohammed learned well, basing his “religion” by plagarizing Christian and Jewish histories, then claiming his new religion really was the first and it is Christians and Jews who have corrupted their scriptures. Read up on Islamist teachings…they claim Jesus and Moses as moslems. This is why there is a mosque on top of the Temple Mount, why Arafat sneered the Jews have “no historical connection” to Jerusalem (and even the simpering French gave in on the myth of the Egyptian Arafat being born in Jerusalem) why moslem leaders when they have any power at all refuse to allow Jews to visit any of their historical sites. Islamists have a particular enmity towards Jews because the Jews refused to convert to Islam. This why they preach the Jews are “pigs and monkeys”. This all predates by over a thousand years the modern state of Israel.

    - For all the spineless nattering nabbobs on the left. Since you feel so strongly about “reaching out” to the murdering Islamofascists I’m starting a “Flight for Peace” drive for all the conservatives to contribute too. Any liberal asshat that wants one will be given a ticket to their country of choice, free of charge. The proviso is that once they move they must stay where ever they fly too and visit their Socialist/Marxist bullshit on the lucky citizens of the target country. Preference will be shown to any participant that selects a Communist or Fascist based country such as France or Germany.

    - Any Totalitarian non-Democratic country will be accepted as a destination. As an alternative they may join a “Peace negotiations Group” which will be flown to Iraq and attend an arranged conference with the leader of the murdering scum bags, Abu Zarqarwi, and “negotiate” his agreement to stop killing innocent civilians in his “freedom” war. We will post the contact Email for any tin-foil hatters that are interested. This will give the liberals the perfect opportunity to prove the varacity of their idea’s. We will also arrange a “World Peace Conference Day”, where representatives of the leading liberal officials can meet with leaders of all the Al Qae’da groups at one time and negotiate terms of peace wherein the Islamic Jihadists will call a truce and cease the attacks on Christianity and Jewdism throughout the world and agree to live in peace with their neighbors. The negotiations will also apply to Palestine, where Hamas and all other outlaw warring groups will be disarmed and the Palistinian authorities will agree to end all conflicts and accept statehood and get back to the job of building a peacefull society for their people….

    - We do this in the hope that the liberals brain-dead theories are actually workable and will result in an end to all conflicts worldwide. Or is it all empty rhetoric, anti-American, anti-religious backstabbing crap….

    - Now’s the time to stop theorizing and put your lunacy into practice….

  51. 51
    Tiny Tyrant growls and barks:

    Dear CAP Friends:

    I am writing is to tell you about a project the Ramstein Cadet Squadron at Ramstein Air Base, Germany, is starting. The Landstuhl Regional Medical Center (LRMC) here in Germany got an influx of about 500 wounded troops from Iraq last week and more arrive almost daily. They arrive straight from the battlefield, with only the torn, dirty, bloody clothes on their back. They have no clothes, underwear, or toiletry items. The hospital provides them with only a cotton gown or pajamas, robe, and disposable slippers. Some stay only a few days before being sent to hospitals stateside, while others are here up to several weeks. The military gives them a $250 voucher to buy clothing and toiletries at the BX, but many are not ambulatory, and those who are have to wait for a bus to get down to the BX on Ramstein 7 miles away. The BX runs out of the clothing and it takes weeks for more to come in. Those who can go to the BX still need something to wear to get there!

    The cadets are collecting new clothing and toiletries to that they can take to the wounded at LRMC. Below is a list of items the wounded need. It is cold here in Germany and warm items are needed. Items need not be name brands . . .

    For males – all sizes, but mostly medium and large

    briefs

    boxer shorts

    undershirts or T-shirts

    white crew sox

    cotton turtleneck shirts

    flannel shirts

    sweatshirts (crew or zip-up hooded)

    sweat pants

    inexpensive athletic shoes

    knit caps

    knit gloves

    For females – all sizes, but mostly medium and large

    cotton briefs

    cotton T-shirts

    cotton turtleneck shirts

    flannel shirts

    bras – mostly sizes 34, 36, 38 with cup sizes B and C

    white crew sox

    sweatshirts (crew or zip-up hooded)

    sweat pants

    inexpensive athletic shoes

    knit caps

    knit gloves

    Toiletry articles -

    disposable razors

    shaving cream – regular and/or travel size

    deodorant – regular and/or travel size

    tooth brushes

    tooth paste – regular and/or travel size

    nail clippers

    combs

    hair brushes

    The hospital could also use new or used video tapes or DVDs of movies for the patients to watch. Comedies or light drama are best. Please avoid movies about war or those with excessive violence.

    If your squadron would like to help, we would greatly appreciate it, no matter what the quantity. Every little bit helps.

    If you wish to send money, make your check out to the Ramstein Cadet Squadron and put “Help for LRMC” on the memo line. We will use the money to purchase toiletry items and movies. But American-sized clothing listed below is what is mostly needed, which the BX is currently out of.

    Send your donations to:

    Lt Col Lori Noyes
    PSC 2 Box 6037
    APO AE 09012

    or

    Ramstein Cadet Squadron NHQ-OS-119
    Unit 3395
    APO AE 09094

    We can get items to the hospital faster if they come to my mailing address, but feel free to send them to the squadron address.

    Feel free to pass the word along to other CAP units in your wing. Thank you for your support of our troops.

    In service,

    Lori L. Noyes, Lt Col, CAP

    Deputy Commander

    Ramstein Cadet Squadron

  52. 52
    LC BattleofthePyramids growls and barks:

    steven harper:
    About your comments -
    1. The Arabs living under what was, between 1919 and 1948, a British mandate area, were invited to share the land with the Jewish population at least 3 times: The Peel plan of 1936, the British partition plan of 1938 HM White Paper, and the UN partition plan of 1948. To each proposal the Arabs responded in the same way, with terrorism. When it became clear the British were going to pull out, the terrorism increased with the declared intention to “drive the Jews into the sea”. Having tried and failed, the Arabs who left are entitled to exactly nothing.

    2. Arab countries themselves routinely ethnically cleanse themselves of Palestinians when they need to: Jordan in 1970, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia in 1991. Why should Israel be entitled to less security than her Arab neighbors?

    3. As for Deir Yassim, the Irgun and Stern group were reacting to numerous arab atrocities, and in any event they were denounced and later forced to disband by the Haganah. Massacres and atrocities are standard practice for Arabs and done with unlimited support from the Arab world. Israel has always been far too lenient and merciful in her wars, which is why she is not at peace today.

    4. The “Palestinian Arabs” do NOT want peace with Israel. They have NEVER recognized the right of Israel to exist, and they don’t now.

    Um Yeah: You are a moral idiot if you beleive what you posted.

  53. 53
    LC Joseph Dromedary growls and barks:

    LC BattleofthePyramids

    No one here has EVER accused DumbYeah of being moral but, due to his assinine and childish stupidity, have overwhelmingly declared him to be an idiot.

    Not that it has to be declared, by any means, all one has to do is attempt to read his irrational and mind numbing posts.

    Actually he is a fucking idiot.

  54. 54
    steven harper growls and barks:

    1. Your right about that and the Jews rejected as least one I believe in the late 30s because they felt they didn’t get enough land. Part of the reason why the Arabs didn’t agree to the partition plan. I beleive the large number of Arab left they should be entitled to some land. I think the aborted Geneva Initiative is good start where the Palestinians give up their right of return and the Israelis give back like 98% of the West Bank.
    2. Right on good point as I said before the Arabs bare as much responibility for the refugee problem as the Israeli. And I think Israel has excellant sercurity, Israel has a ton o nuclear weapons so they are fairly safe from convential attacks as no one has nuclear weapons in the Middle East. Israel has a right to defend itself but I dont think some of methods help them out much like home demolitions. Or shooting up kids just like scuide bombing of restarants doesn’t advance the Palestinian cause.
    3.Yes they were responding so we can agree their was senseless bloodshed on both sides. I dont know about unlimted support but yes there are massacres and as I said before Christians can do it too as seen in Lebanon.
    4. Yes they have both sides recognized each other’s right to exist in Oslo 94. And both sides did not make good their promises. And alot of Palestinians do want peace and alot dont just like the Israelis.

  55. 55
    LarryConley growls and barks:

    The King David Hotel was a legitmate millitary target.. and they were warned it would be targeted.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

    There have been some examples of Israeli Brutality… those responsible have also gone to prison… Bit of a difference.

  56. 56
    Tsuki Hoseki growls and barks:

    Well Tsuki I think you got your facts a little confused in this case with Deir Yassin.

    You think wrong. Tsuki is not confused about anything.

    Operation Nachshon, of which the attack on Dir Yassin was a part, was a Haganah operation, even if Irgun troops formed the bulk of those who attacked Dir Yassin. Perhaps she should have said “The Irgun and Haganah decided to clear the place,” but that is a trivial point.

    What is really important is that your claim of “254 dead civilians” is a three-fold lie: The number you cite of Arabs killed is one lie; and the suggestion that those who were killed were all innocent, non-combatant “civilians” is a second lie; and your use of the word “massacre” to refer to deaths caused in combat is a third lie.

    You also insinuate that the War for Independence did not begin until the end of the British Mandate. That is technically accurate, but functionally absurd, because the fighting had already been going on for quite some time. Everyone in the region knew of the impending end of British rule, and Arab murderers had begun attacking Jews long before 15 May 1948.

    The first large-scale assaults began on January 9, 1948, when approximately 1,000 Arabs attacked Jewish communities in northern Palestine. [source]

    Tsuki might also add that an event which took place 56 years ago has no bearing on current events, but that should go without saying.

    Are you seriously suggesting that there were no Arabs living in Palestine-sorry what is now called Israel- before the massive influx of Jewish immgriation in the first half of the 20th century.

    Tsuki said no such thing. Arabs who live within Israel are generally called “Israeli Arabs,” while the term “Palestinian” is reserved for those Arabs who live in the West Bank or Gaza Strip (or for those Arabs who left Israel of their own free will because they refused to live under Jewish rule). It is also very clear that those are the people she was talking about, so pretending to think otherwise demonstrates your intention to deliberately twist her words.

    Only 5% of the population of modern day Israel was Jewish.

    You do not cite a year, so Tsuki will: Jews comprised 5.3% of the population of “Palestine” in 1880 — not that it matters in the slightest, since by 1946, Jews comprised 46.15% of the population of “Palestine.”

    Whether those people were immigrants or natives is irrelevant. Jews are not safe under the rule of Muslims (although the reverse is not true), so the Jews needed their own country and their own government.

    You may prattle about the “Palestinian Right of Return” all you want. The Jews’ claim on that land is older than any Arab’s.

    I am just saying Arabs and Jews are equally responiable for this problem.

    And Tsuki is just saying: YOU ARE WRONG.

    You are ignoring History, ignoring the fact that every war Israel has ever fought has been initiated by the Arabs, ignoring the fact that Muslim nations routinely and deliberately persecute the Jewish religion while Israel does nothing of the kind to Muslims.

    You had the unmitigated gall to compare the actions of the Israeli military to the actions of Palestinian terrorists: To compare military operations against terrorists to suicide bombings and the deliberate bombardment of civilian areas by mortars and rockets.

    You also had the gall to suggest that there is no moral difference between the Israelis & Americans on one hand, and Palestinian & Iraqi terrorists on the other hand.

    That you can even make such comparisons is appalling, and it is all the proof Tsuki needs that you are a delusional moron. You are an apologist for terror, and you are wasting your time trying to spread your lies here.

    ?John Kerry ? I’m not sure why you guy hate him so much?

    Tsuki thanks you for providing yet more evidence of your brain damage. She will say this slowly, in small words, so you can understand:

    We hate John Kerry because he is a liar, and he is a traitor.

    If you are unaware of the ways in which John Kerry is a liar and a traitor, then you must have been living in a cave for the last year. Perhaps that is where you acquired your love for “Palestinian” animals.

    Two Dragons you might think Israel hasn’t done anything wrong but I am afraid Israel has done great injustice to the Palestinian people.

    And Tsuki is afraid your head is so full of shit that you wouldn’t recognize Truth if it bit you on the ass.

    Israel has a right to defend itself?

    Oh, good. Tsuki is so glad that you have granted them that right. She is sure Israel will be very happy too, now that they have your permission.

    ?but I dont think some of methods help them out much like home demolitions. Or shooting up kids just like scuide bombing of restarants doesn’t advance the Palestinian cause.

    Home demolitions are only used to eliminate bases of operations for terrorists; so if Palestinians don’t like having their homes demolished, they should stop harboring terrorists.

    Tsuki has no idea what you are talking about by saying “shooting up kids,” unless you are objecting to Israelis shooting at the underage rioters that Palestinians regularly send out to attack Israeli police and military. If Palestinians do not want their children to get shot, then Palestinians should not deliberately train and encourage them to participate in combat against Israeli troops.

    Your concern for Palestinian children is touching. It is a pity that the parents of those children do not share your concern.

    When you can provide evidence that Israel similarly indoctrinates its Jewish children with such hate, and deliberately sacrifices them as “martyrs” to their cause, then you may compare Israelis to Palestinians.

    Until then, shut up. Tsuki has had quite enough of your willful and deliberate ignorance.

  57. 57
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    Emperor, I think a new one besides PIMF (‘Preview is my friend’ for those that might not know..) should be ‘MWTAEYW’- ‘Mess with Tsuki and eat your words’. OK, I know it’s too long, but such a perfectly formed post;facts,links and logic, deserves recogognition…
    *bows to Tsuki’s most excellent logic and debating kills*

  58. 58
    LC Mary in LA, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Tiny Tyrant, thanks for the heads-up. This sounds like a noble effort. Do you mind if I ask when and how you got this message?

    I work at a defense installation. LtCol Noyes is not listed in the Ramstein AB e-mail directory that I have access to. If this letter is some months old, she may be stationed elsewhere by now. Or it could be a temporary glitch in the e-mail directory replication between here and Ramstein.

    In any case, if you could confirm the source of the message, it would be helpful to confirm the address. If LtCol Noyes has moved elsewhere, all those clothes, etc., shipped to her address will follow her to her new duty station!!!

  59. 59
    LC Jon , Imperial Hunter growls and barks:

    The Imperial Hunter stands, salutes and applauds the Unbearably beautiful, obviously dangerous and astoundingly intelligent LC TSUKI HOSEKI.

    The Imperial Hunter is painfully envious of the extremely fortunate Tao Libra. He hopes his wife does not see this comment!

    The Imperial Hunter thinks that steven harper is a morally vacuous poseur with less brains than God gave a goose and less balls than an amoeba.

  60. 60
    LC Mary in LA, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Okay, found ‘em:

    http://ramstein.overseas.cap.gov/

    They’re Air Force Auxiliary/Civil Air Patrol, thus on a different e-mail system from the one I’m on.

  61. 61
    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    Holy Crap. LC Tsuki is awesome. Does she have a blog, so I can go read more?

  62. 62
    LC Hunter Weapons Officer growls and barks:

    - You gotta love the insane yammering of the left in all this. The Palestinians had the chance to get 95% of what they were “demanding” handed to them way back in the 60′s. They agreed and then turned around and decided that honesty and good faith negotiation ment starting a war with Russia and Egypt doing most of the heavy lifting, got their sad conniving asses kicked by tiny Israel in a three day war, and then spend the next 40 years whining about their rights and lobbing motars and missles and sending suicide bombers into shopping malls….

    - They need to be very very glad I wasn’t running the show in Israel when they did it. I would have wipped the whole bunch of camel shaggers off the face of the earth….

    - This whole Communist/leftard meme of this being a holy war is pure unadulterated crap. Its the Islamofascists and Totalitarian countries against the spread of Democracy. Every time a Democracy flourishes Totalitarian countries in the area go belly up, and the asshat Socialists fall further down into the revine toward hell where they all belong. Couldn’t happen soon enough to a more deranged bunch of ideologic idiots…..

  63. 63
    N. O'Brain, IMfUI growls and barks:

    How’s about ‘MWTASEYL’- ‘Mess with Tsuki and She’ll Eat Your Liver’.

  64. 64
    LC mrs heather, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Tsuki,

    I’m in awe. I dare say you are in (almost) the same league as our beloved Emperor.

    Someone doesn’t swing the Cluebat like that too often.

    Bravo!

  65. 65
    LC the Humble Devildog growls and barks:

    *sigh* Yet another newcomer gets a title before me. Oh, well.

    Tsuki definitely deserves a title. Her evisceration and flaying of the moonbat known as steven harper is a thing of beauty.

    Too bad harper isn’t smart enough to know when he’s beaten. I almost feel sorry for him.

    Almost.

  66. 66
    LC Brian B, WotAP growls and barks:

    While I agree with the other LC’s in their adulation of Tsuki, I must take issue with one thing: I do not agree that she wields a cluebat. To me, her debate skills and rhetorical style are far more reminiscent of a Clue-Katana. Sharp, accurate, finely honed, precise, refined, DEADLY.

  67. 67
    LC Cromagnon growls and barks:

    Cromagnon think LC Tsuki one bad mama. Cromagnon also think he not want LC Tsuki mad at him for ANY reason. (/caveman mode)

    Seriously, folks, anyone here besides me think LC Tsuki qualifies for the Titanium ClueBat with Emerald Studs™? I’m already working up a ClueHammer of Thor with Ruby Handles™ award which I fully intend to present to her. Dayum, she’s good!

  68. 68
    LC Cromagnon growls and barks:

    Ya know something, Humble Devildog, you’re right! We’ve been remiss about this. Emperor, I hereby nominate LC the Humble Devildog to the post of Imperial War Historian, with all the rights and privileges attendant thereto.

  69. 69
    LC Hunter Weapons Officer growls and barks:

    - LC Cromagnon … I second the motion and bequeath the sacred spear of the Emperors war jewels for the benediction and the keys to the Royal library as a sign of his station…..

  70. 70

    Heh. Methinks me like the looks of that.

    Thanks, guys. I was only whining to whine, but, I’ll take it. I’m not too proud to take a gift.

  71. 71
    Deathknyte growls and barks:

    Nice job Tsuki!

    I second any titles or awards handed out.

    (on a side note, for all those wondering why thier blogs comments have become blessedly quiet, its because my comp has been raided for parts. Some rat bastard stole one of my harddrives and my sound card. Hope to be reading all of you again soon, Merry CHRISTMAS!)

  72. 72
    LC Cromagnon growls and barks:

    LC Humble Devildog, it is a honor well worth bestowing. I have found myself edumacated many times by reading your historical posts.

    LC Deathknyte, I know the feeling, they’re rebuilt my POS several times at work and the damned thing still isn’t working right. Like our tech says, “Windows isn’t a virus – viruses DO something!”

  73. 73
    Emperor Misha I growls and barks:

    Oh G-d, that was – [wipes tear from eye] – beautiful!

    Rarely have we seen disdain, contempt and sarcasm wielded with such expertise, carefully backed up by slicing, dicing, finely honed facts.

    Titanium ClueBat with Emerald Studs? it is, with our Imperial Thanks.

    It’s a rare thing indeed when His Majesty’s first thought after reading a severe Clue-Whipping is that he badly needs a smoke.

  74. 74
    LC Joseph Dromedary growls and barks:

    LC Joseph Doemedary, Imperial Tobacconist at your service sire.
    What is your pleasure?

  75. 75
    LC Jon , Imperial Hunter growls and barks:

    I quit, but that could get me to light up.

    Now, how ’bout that Imperial Title for the tiny but mighty Ms. Hoseki?

  76. 76
    N. O'Brain, IMfUI growls and barks:

    Reminds me of this:

    “Funny, you like Japanese swords. I like baseball…”

    Swooosh…

    Swingggggg……..

    Sorry, folks, I’ve been ODing on that movie.

  77. 77
    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    Emperor, may I suggest you make LC Tsuki’s name its own acronym:

    Troll Slayer, Unabashedly Killing Idiotarians

    (okay, I had trouble with the “U”… any suggestions?)

  78. 78
    LC Tsuki Hoseki growls and barks:

    Tsuki is glad that the right-thinking residents of the Empire enjoy her writings. She must apologize though — gomen nasai — for getting so angry at the very stupid Mr. Steven Harper that she employed profanity when describing the contents of his head.

    She does not often feel the need to use profanity; but her patience has limits, and she can be provoked into using profanity when confronted with enormous stupidity (unlike a certain person whose initials are not really T.L., who requires almost no provocation at all).

    It’s like watching the text version of a cute and perky Anime-style schoolgirl-type character (complete with short plaid skirt and curly pigtails) waltz up to some mouthbreathing drool-factory, produce an ominously oversize blunt weapon from the ether inside her purse, and smash him into gruesome and bloody bits. Too COOL! ;-)

    Tsuki never attended school in Japan; but even so, she owns one of those “sailor” outfits. She purchased it to use as a weapon of psychological warfare on as a gift for Tao Libra, and she can happily report that it is very effective. She has never failed to get whatever she wants while she is wearing it. (^_^)

  79. 79
    LC Tsuki Hoseki growls and barks:

    Tsuki must also apologize for repeatedly forgetting her “LC.” She is not quite accustomed to it yet. *(^_^)*

    [Tsuki, that is quite alright.  It is Our privilege to assist you in that regard

    Besides, We fantasize that perhaps one day you will wear the sailor outfit for Us (grin).  -The Management™]

  80. 80
    LC mrs heather, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Tsuki,

    Profanity is more than welcome around here. So let ‘er rip! ;)

  81. 81
    LCDusty growls and barks:

    Tsuki, go ahead and write any profanities you can think of in regards to Steven Harper. This stupid tit is another dumb-ass left wing Canadian who thinks it’s tremendously witty to use the name of the leader of the Canadian Conservative Party as his screen name, except he’s too stupid to spell it right. Uuuuuhhhh, dumb ass? It’s spelled Ste P – H – en Harper. OK? If you are going to try to be a smart aleck lefty at least try to appear smart.

  82. 82
    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    LC Tsuki, all I gotta say is…I don’t ever want you mad at me. ‘Nuff said! ;-)

    You ever find yourself in the general area of Central Texas, you’ve got whatever drink you prefer waiting for you. Just give me forewarning if it’s something rare or expensive, as I’ll need to donate some plasma or a few egg cells to get it–but it would be worth it! *grin*

    Seriously though, idiots like Carper–er, I mean, Harper, get under my skin. What nerve, to come here and equate the few incidents commited by one group–for which they were PUNISHED!–with the grevious acts of genocide committed by an entire culture. To equate the careful self-defense tactics of the Israelis–who even go so far as to show compassion towards Palestinian women and children–with those bloodthirsty suicide bombers who take it as a point of pride to destroy as many innocent Jews as possible in their murderous tribute to their god.

    I’m no longer of a mood to argue with a dipshit like him. If he had his way, the entire world would be a homogenous grey, with no-one allowed to overcome the embarrassments of their past and ascend to greatness. He aspires to mediocrity. To Hell with him.

    –TwoDragons

  83. 83
    LC 0311 crunchie growls and barks:

    LC Devildog;

    Congrats on the long overdue adulation and title!

    LC Tsuki;

    About damn time you put LC in front of your name! Beutiful cluebatting, just one request, please don’t describe your “outfits: anymore. My wife is getting suspicous over why I’m all of a sudden a little more “attentive” lately;)

  84. 84
    Roger Glass growls and barks:

    Oh Tsuki -

    I’m not kidding, here. Could you please, please, please arrange to debate Joe Sobran and Pat Buchanan on Israel – one at a time or both together – in some public forum where we could listen/read? Like those symposia they have at David Horowitz’ website? Please, please please get back to us on this.

    I’m certain Buchanan would ignore you, but I’m almost equally certain Sobran would accept the challenge, and I’d especially like to see you put that SOB through the ringer.

    You are too beautiful. Our beloved Misha I is a mighty emperor, but you are A GODDESS! A GODDESS!

    Please do let us know. I would almost give my life to see that fight.

  85. 85
    LC BattleofthePyramids growls and barks:

    stevenharper:
    Sorry for the late reply, work and all that. Now:
    1. The Geneva initiative is NOT a good idea. Among other things, it gives the Arabs living in the disputed areas 98% of Judea and Samaria, in other words, Israel must make tangible and physical concessions. In return she will, supposedly, get a piece of paper in which an Arab government will renounce the “right of return” of the Arabs who left. In other words, Israel’s concessions are physical and difficult to reverse. Arab concessions are on paper and easy to reverse. You are also ignoring history: ALL of the West Bank and Gaza strip, AND all of East Jerusalem were under exclusive Arab, not Jewish, control between 1949 and 1967. Egypt and Jordan could have created a Palestinian state at any point during that time, and Israel could have done nothing to stop it. They didn’t. They, and the Palestinians, agreed that the “right of return” was to ALL of Israel, in other words, pre-1967 Israel. This of course would mean demographic suicide, followed very quickly by physical extermination. Just take a look at the PLO, itself. It was formed in 1964, and its national covenant clearly refers to “liberating” Israel as she existed BEFORE the 6-day war.

    2. Nuclear weapons are a great deterrent – assuming your enemy is not willing to suffer massive losses. Iran may not be deterrable, which is why I hope SOMEONE pre-empts their plans. Iran’s government is already on record as saying that they consider a nuclear exchange agreeable as Israel would be destroyed and the Islamic world only damaged. As for shooting kids, Islamic terrorists use kids as human shields and sometimes as human bombs. They also train them to be soldiers starting from kindergarten. To the extent children are at risk in this war, it is because Arab terrorists deliberately put them in harm’s way. As for house demolitions, they are probably the most harmless military response to terrorism available. Destroying a house harm’s no one, unlike a bomb in a pizza parlor. In any event, it is no real hardship for the Arabs, as the UN builds them new homes for free.
    3. The difference is, Arab atrocities are a deliberate part of the Arab way of war. Jewish atrocities are an aberration that results in apologies and persecution of those responsible.
    4. The Oslo accords were a sham and a delusion. Arafat and others may have mentioned accepting Israel in English, but in Arabic they always said it was war by other means. Go to MEMRI and read the articles and you will see what I mean. The Arabs were also supposed to take several concrete steps regarding Oslo, including stopping terrorism, disarming terrorist groups, stopping Jew-hatred in their educational system and stopping Jew-hatred propaganda. They did none of those things. There may be a few Arabs who want peace, but the overwhelming majority want war until all Jews in Israel are killed or driven out. If you doubt this go read the PLO national covenan and Hamas charter for yourself.

  86. 86
    LC BattleofthePyramids growls and barks:

    LC Tsuki: Love your posts. And your writing style.
    Emperor: Thanks for letting me rant and rave.

  87. 87
    LC 0311 crunchie growls and barks:

    Alot OT here, but a little yuletide levity for all the vets out there.

    The Death of Santa Claus

    Well, there’s strange things done ‘neath the VietNamese sun,
    but the time that locked my jaws,
    was the night neath the moon
    when the third platoon
    gunned down Santa Claus.

    Well it started off right,
    just an ordinary night
    we had to spend in the dirt.
    Security was out, 360 about,
    with 50 percent alert.

    We had eighty-ones and naval guns,
    the tanks were track to track.
    An ONTOS or so and an arty FO
    with barrages back to back.

    I froze where I stood
    ’cause out of the wood
    eight horse came running along.
    This may sound corny,
    but them mustangs were horny.
    “My God” I thought “mounted Viet Cong!”

    He was coming our way
    in what looked like a sliegh,
    but then you never know what they’ll use.
    The flares were tripped, the SIDS had flipped,
    and the TIPSY blew a fuse.

    We let him close, the yelled “Who goes?”
    like they do in the movie shows,
    and the answer we got, believe it or not
    was a hearty “Ho Ho Ho”.

    Now those troops of mine, they’d seen some time
    and we’d done some things back-asswards.
    They may be thick, but I’ll tell you a trick,
    they knew that wasn’t the password.

    The eighty-ones soared and the nineties roared.
    The naval guns raised some hell.
    A bright red flare threw through the air,
    we fired our FPL!

    I’ll give him guts, but the guy was nuts
    or I’m a no good liar.
    He dropped like a stone in our killing zone,
    and I passed the word “Cease fire”.

    I went out and took a real good look.
    My memory started to race,
    my mind plays games when it comes to names,
    but I never forget a face.

    He was dressed all in red and he looked well fed,
    he was older than most I’d seen.
    He looked right wierd with that long white beard,
    and those stumps where his legs had been.

    He hadn’t quite died when I reached his side,
    but the end was clearly in sight.
    I knelt down low and he said real slow,
    “Merry Christmas, and to all a good night”.

    So I picked up the hook with a voice that shook
    and said “Get me the six and quick”.
    “Colonel” I said “hang on to your head,
    we just greased old Saint Nick”.

    Now the old mans cool, he’s nobodys fool,
    right off he knew the word.
    If this got out, there’d be no doubt,
    he wouldn’t be getting his bird.

    “Just get him up here and we’ll play it by ear.
    Make sure of that medevac tag,
    dismantle that sliegh, drive them reindeer away
    and bury the Gaddamn bag!”

    Now by and by the kids may cry
    ’cause there’s nothing under the tree.
    But the word just came back from FMF PAC
    that Santa had gone VC.

    Author unknown
    Merry Christmas Ya All!

  88. 88
    LC Xealot growls and barks:

    Yes, Tsuki is quite eloquent. To ClueBat a leftie… I can do this well enough. But to do it with such style and grace… well my hat is off to ya :) .

  89. 89
    Arkham growls and barks:

    You guys are amazing: you chose Israel’s side… You hate Palestinians… You hate France, too… We, the French, we don’t hate you, but we do have a lot of fun watching your morron “president”, that’s a fact: for us, he’s just a stupid person, representing a stupid bunch of people (the ones who voted for him again).

    But, tell me, did France ever cheat on you? Lie on you? Or, to get straight to the point: did we ever spy on you? And again? And again? (How many “Israel Spy Rings” affairs did you have over the last 20 years?) Did we ever sell high-end US military technologies to communist China? Or steal US nuclear technology devices to make our own bombs? Did we ever sink a US Navy ship and kill a whole bunch of US boys in the process, without any excuses whatsoever? Was that an “accident”? Yeah… Right! What a bunch of gullible morrons, stupid fools you are!

    The only nation you seem to really trust (along with the UK), your only true “friend”, the nation you guys all seem to be in love with is probably one of your worst ennemy. ISRAEL IS NOT YOUR FRIEND! GET IT? No?… CQFD: je viens donc de dmontrer tout ce qui prcde! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ROTFLMAO!

    P.S. Don’t call me “anti-semite” or whatever: I have Jewish roots by my father, and many of my friends are Jews! But I really don’t like Israel’s policies, fueling worldwide hatred against the Jewish People!

  90. 90
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    Arkham-
    OK, so thats 3 hates, 2 morons(both mis-spelled),2 stupids, and 1 fool used in your post…

    Did you expect some type of kind or friendly reply from that?!
    And you said :

    I have Jewish roots by my father

    , and what an amazing tree of hate,ignorance,jealousy,and pompousness has spawned from those roots. (and in case you don’t get that, I’ll type really slowly..That means You)
    *tosses said troll into the shit pile and goes to bed*

  91. 91
    Arkham growls and barks:

    “2 morons(both mis-spelled)”

    Sorry for that… I am French :) But thanks for pointing that out!

    “Did you expect some type of kind or friendly reply from that?!”

    Nope, I didn’t! I am just sick and tired to read pure hatred rants like “a couple more scumbags sent off to hell to collect their 72 Arafat lookalike virgin sheep.” the day before Christmas! Isn’t it the right time for all of us to speak about peace and not getting fun out of people’s lives taken off. Sure, they probably are “terrorists” (whatever that means for you), but as a matter of fact, all these “terrorist cleaning” operations are taking quite a big toll of innocent lives too!!!! Isn’t it time for all of us to pray for peace and for the military to ask for forgiveness for all their “collateral damages”?

    I guess for some “Christians” it isn’t. Christmas became just another opportunity for some to spill hatred and ask for more “scumbags” to be slaughtered. Geee… Have they ever read the Bible?

    “what an amazing tree of hate,ignorance,jealousy,and pompousness has spawned from those roots”

    I don’t hate anyone! I hate “stupidity”! As for being “jealous”: how come you americans always seem to believe the rest of the world is just “jealous” of the american way of life? I’m not at all!

    Keep thinking what you want and keep spitting on Jesus and on the Christmas’ spirit if that’s what you like, if that makes you feel more “Christian”.

  92. 92
    Arkham growls and barks:

    Oh, and by the way, is “troll” the word you use to call anyone who disagree with you or with your “Emperor Misha” (did you talk about “pompousness”)? If so, yes: I AM A TROLL and proud of it! So is 90% of the world, just for your information!

    But, (let’s type this really slowly, just in case you didn’t get this :) YOU DIDN’T ADDRESS MY POINT: ISRAEL IS NOT YOUR FRIEND! Or, to put it another way: if you consider Israel to be your friend, then what are we, the French, supposed to be when it is a fact we:
    -never spied on you.
    -send you false intelligence to get you into a War that was our own best interest.
    -killed dozens of US boys and sinked one of your ships.
    -sold your top technologies to communist China
    -stole some of your nuclear devices (detonators) to make our own nuclear weapons?

  93. 93
    Tao Libra growls and barks:

    Did France ever cheat on us? Lie to us?

    Yes, France did. France’s government took Saddam’s tool so far down their throats that we still haven’t been able to pull it out even though we have the bastard in custody.

    When your country starts prosecuting its government officials for their complicity in Saddam’s tyranny, and for lying to the entire world about their profiteering at the expense of the Iraqi people, maybe Americans might start having some respect for French people again.

    When there are French troops standing beside the American troops in Iraq — instead of French politicians sitting in Paris bitching about how we conduct a war — maybe we’ll stop considering you a bunch of snail-eating cowards.

    If you really want to earn our respect though, you’ll also have to get rid of that Communist pederast you call a President — and everyone who voted for him, too.

    And it might help if you stopped being French. Larve.

  94. 94
    Arkham growls and barks:

    “When your country starts prosecuting its government officials for their complicity in Saddam’s tyranny, and for lying to the entire world about their profiteering”

    Hmmm… OK! You got a point! The French government is just a bunch of liars (like all politicians around the world)! But do you really think US businesses and officials weren’t envolved in this profiteering? Is everyone in the US 100% clean of any profiteering with Saddam?

    But you still didn’t address my main point! Can you give me any exemple of a “French spy ring” in the pentagon?

  95. 95
    Tao Libra growls and barks:

    But you still didn’t address my main point! Can you give me any exemple of a “French spy ring” in the pentagon?

    I didn’t address it because I don’t care whether France has ever “spied” on the United States. If I did, I would point out that France is actively engaged in economic espionage against the United States. Or have you never heard of Ecole de Guerre Economique?

    That may not have quite the style and panache of spying for military secrets, but I wouldn’t expect style or panache from Frenchmen anyway.

    In any event, the absence of French spies in the Pentagon — or more accurately, the fact that we haven’t caught any yet — does not prove that France is our “friend.”

    The fact that France’s government collaborates with our enemies is much more telling. The fact that French people such as yourself call our President and everyone who voted for him a “moron” is just about all we need to know.

  96. 96
    Arkham growls and barks:

    A little edit… I wrote: “Did we ever sink a US Navy ship and kill a whole bunch of US boys in the process, without any excuses whatsoever? Was that an “accident”? Yeah… Right! What a bunch of gullible morrons, stupid fools you are!”

    I should have included: “,if you really think it was!” just after the last word (“are”).

    Again! My point is: CAN YOU PLEASE STOP complimenting Israel and start recognizing who your true friends are. The French people, or the Palestinian people doesn’t deserve your hatred more than Israel, who betrayed you so many times. Should you decide to keep hating mostly everyone for all sort of (irrational) reasons, then at least, be consistant and recognize the government of Israel as being “highly ambiguous” in their attitude toward America.

    But my hope, my wish, this Christmas Eve, is for you guys to stop spilling all your hatred, your racism, your anglo-judeo-christian sentiment of racial superiority and get a life! Shouldn’t we try to love each other?

    Anyway, I think you’ve got my point! Merry Christmas to the ones of you who still know what the word “Love” means. And to the ones who can’t, the ones whose hearts are filled with hatred, I have this one last thing to tell them: you’ve got all my prayers. So keep insulting me, for I care not!

  97. 97
    Arkham growls and barks:

    Oh, and by the way: the ones who voted “Chirac” in again (after all the lies he where morons too. Oops: I was one of them (didn’t really have a choice though: the other guy was much worse) :)

    But, isn’t the very first evidence of intelligence to recognize how stupid we ALL are?

  98. 98
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    So keep insulting me, for I care not.

    Yes you do.

    What else would drive you to post here time and again?

    Typical case of a euro-inferiority complex.

    (I’m sure Arkham will follow this post with a string of denials along with playing the “You’re all racist hate-mongers” card.)

  99. 99
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    Arkham, at least you had the guts to respond, but I still am FAR from agreeing with your points..

    Nope, I didn’t! I am just sick and tired to read pure hatred rants like “a couple more scumbags sent off to hell to collect their 72 Arafat lookalike virgin sheep.

    Quotes such as those come from people who are sick and tired of seeing people killed by the terrorists (In today’s world, I think a dictionary would equate ‘terrorist’ to ‘killer without regard to whom their victims might be’) So expressing angry words is what we do…we don’t load up with C4 and nails and walk into a mall and become martyrs…that’s so 10th century.

    all these “terrorist cleaning” operations are taking quite a big toll of innocent lives too!!!! Isn’t it time for all of us to pray for peace and for the military to ask for forgiveness for all their “collateral damages”?

    It appears that the terrorists kill more innocents than those whom are killing terrorists..and yes, it is good to pray for peace. But when someone wants to kill you no matter what you say or negotiate, what other option do you have?

    how come you americans always seem to believe the rest of the world is just “jealous” of the american way of life?

    Well, I know life isn’t perfect here, but it seems people from just about every country are just dying to get here…either while trying to escape their own dictatorial governments, or before they even try to, just because of words they might use that their government doesn’t like..

    what are we, the French, supposed to be

    Hey, I never used to have anything against France, but things like the deals with Iraq (you know, the illegal kinds like getting oil-the one they always blame us of doing, selling them all sorts of machinery/weaponry that was prohibited, etc.) that your country had up until shortly before the liberation of the Iraqi people began, the outright blocking of UN approved sanctions by your government, your total and complete opposal to the US actually invoking said UN sanctions….maybe that’s why some are a little pissed off.

    But you still didn’t address my main point! Can you give me any exemple of a “French spy ring” in the pentagon?

    YOU DIDN’T ADDRESS MY POINT: ISRAEL IS NOT YOUR FRIEND

    So many divergent points…but keep a hat on and maybe nobody will notice…

    Oh, and

    But my hope, my wish, this Christmas Eve, is for you guys to stop spilling all your hatred, your racism, your anglo-judeo-christian sentiment of racial superiority and get a life! Shouldn’t we try to love each other?

    Yes, I’d like love and flowers for everyone, like you claim to want, and in the same thought you call me a hater,you disrespect my beliefs, you call me a racist whom thinks he is superior, and then you try to top it off with a ‘Mery Christmas’? I have no more time for your foolishness Sir.

    (But, being the hateful, superior racist that I am, I honestly offer you a Merry Christmas…how you accept it is up to you..)

  100. 100
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    At any rate, time to get in the Holiday Spirit.

    Arkham, have a Merry Christmas and best wishes to you and your family.

    (Not bad for a “stupid, racist hate-mongering American”, eh?)

    ;)

  101. 101
    Arkham growls and barks:

    “It appears that the terrorists kill more innocents than those whom are killing terrorists”

    Smells like a pissing contest to me… It’s very hard to prove that kind of claims you know.

    “but it seems people from just about every country are just dying to get here”

    Same thing for Europe. Every week people die to try to reach Europe you know… Don’t be fooled by your impressions: if you are starving, no matter where you are, you will, one day or another, try to get a better life. Who wouldn’t?

    “us of doing, selling them all sorts of machinery/weaponry that was prohibited, etc.) that your country had up until shortly before the liberation of the Iraqi people began”

    As a matter of fact, I’ve worked as an engineer and project-manager for 7 years (including quite some time in the US) for one of the largest US information tech. corporations (more than $20 Billion annual revenues), and you would be very surprised to hear how many BILLION dollars we’ve made in Saddam’s Iraq. Although these sales were obviously not official (it was strictly prohibited to sell those high end equipments to Iraq), I can tell you it didn’t make any difference except the price tag for Saddam was “upgraded” by 400%, not even speaking about the tremendous commissions that we gave to the intermediaries.

    Again: if that is a reason for you to hate France, then I think it is big time for you to start cleaning in front of your own house, because I can tell you America made at least as much as France during those days!

    “(But, being the hateful, superior racist that I am, I honestly offer you a Merry Christmas…how you accept it is up to you..)”

    I do accept it, and all I can say is THANK YOU! Merry Christmas to you too!

  102. 102
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    E-Man,

    (Not bad for a “stupid, racist hate-mongering American”, eh?)

    Yeah, as long as you cheer for my home team, the (dismal) Vikings today !

    Merry Christmas !

  103. 103
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    Arkham-

    I do accept it, and all I can say is THANK YOU! Merry Christmas to you too!

    Accepted here also. Thanks. I guess for now we just agree to strongly disagree..

  104. 104
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    LC#2112,

    Merry Christmas and I hope your Vikings pull it off.

    I’m a life-long Eagles fan and now that T.O. is out for the season, looks like the playing field (such as it is) has evened out in the NFC.

    (Prepares self for hoots of derision from Lord Spatula who is a Cowboys fan)

    ;)

    By the way, in smug, racist, hate-mongering American Christmas Spirit, I give the LCs the following mp3 link:

    Merry F**king Christmas Song (South Park Christmas Classic)

    WARNING: Above song features the use of the word “f**king” repeatedly so be careful not to blast it at work or around “tender little ears”.

    ;)

  105. 105
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    E-Man….thanks for the link….it will be shared today between my Polish/Russian/Norwegian self, my native American neighbor and his German girlfriend…If your gonna offend anyone, might as well be everyone! (And you were right…we’ll keep the kids out of earshot for this one !!)

    Merry Christmas.

  106. 106
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    I figured you and the rest of the LCs would like it.

    For some reason, that song appeals to my anti-PC Christmas sensibilities.

    As far as the kids go, the last thing anyone needs is to have the youngsters running up to Grandma and saying,

    “Hey Gramma! I learned a new Christmas song today! Wanna hear it?”

    On the other hand, what better way to liven up Christmas dinner?

    *guffaw*

    ;)

  107. 107
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    E-Man (again..)

    “Hey Gramma! I learned a new Christmas song today! Wanna hear it?”

    I think my grandma’s would be shocked at the kid’s recital of that song…but later laugh with great belly laughs like Santa !
    ( I already said Merry Christmas, so I guess it’s back to the ol’ ‘Have a nice day’…time to clean the bachelor pad before the neighbors come over later….Speaking of which, I wish an Angel could come down and clean for me…ever try to clean a bachelor house?! Take care and thanks for the amusement.)

  108. 108
    LC mrs heather, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    A worth OT:

    Do you think this troop’s question to Rummy will get front page headlines, hmmmm?

  109. 109
    LC mrs heather, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    EM & 2112,

    My hubby and I particularly like the “Grandma Got Knocked Up by a Reindeer” carole.

    Think the author was inspired by a relative of Uuuuh Yeah?

  110. 110
    steven harper growls and barks:

    Dont have much time but I am glad the 101st Fighting Keybroad division is commanded by such a fine officer Tsuki and I salute your attemps to stop me subverting Western civilization. I’ll try and get back to you later but have a good one. And may there be peace between Palestine and Israel.

  111. 111
    Um Yeah growls and barks:

    Do you think this troop’s question to Rummy will get front page headlines, hmmmm?

    What bullshit mrs heather! are you stupid?

    nothin but chimpy, rumzfeld, rove popaganda!

  112. 112
    Deji Pachi growls and barks:

    Dum Yeah talking about bullshit and calling someone else stupid?

    “O, Kettle, thou art black!” exclaimed the pot.

  113. 113
    Walter E. Wallis growls and barks:

    The French spy ring is in our State Department.

  114. 114
    LC Bishop, Imperial Titweasel growls and barks:

    Arkham, actually almost all nations spy on each other to some degree. The French, however, are blatant about it.

  115. 115
    Roger Glass growls and barks:

    Arkham -

    A U.S. federal judge named A. Jay Cristol – admittedly an evil Joo, though also a retired naval aviator, and otherwise acknowleged as an American patriot, a competent jurist, and an honorable man – spent over a decade doing a study of the Liberty incident. He concluded that it was unequivocably an accident. I’m not sure of the exact number, but I think that 10 U.S. and 3 Israeli governmental studies reached the same conclusion.

    Even today, with greatly superior tech and intelligence, we’re still slaughtering people with friendly fire. Do you think it was remotely possible in 1967? I’ve never been to war, but I understand that it’s foggy, things move fast, and there’s some stress involved.

    People like you, Sobran, Buchanan, and Theodorocopulous love to get in your vicious digs about the Liberty incident. To these other three, I’ve written politely, suggesting that they address the matter with Judge Crystol, then report back. They of course have ignored me, since they have neither good will nor a desire to know the truth of this matter.

  116. 116
    LC Azygos growls and barks:

    P.S. Don’t call me “anti-semite” or whatever: I have Jewish roots by my father, and many of my friends are Jews! But I really don’t like Israel’s policies, fueling worldwide hatred against the Jewish People!

    We don?t hate the French, we just think you are suffering from delusions of relevance. You?re statement above just goes to further our understanding of how the French think. You make a statement seeming to support a people/position and at the same time you reveal your hatred for the very people you claim to support. You blame the Jews for causing others to hate them. That?s similar to the statement my LLL sister made about it being the Israeli?s fault that Palestinian terrorists are strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up women and children.

    Israel has had to fend for itself unlike the French who have lived under the umbrella of US protection for how many years now? And when France did decide it was time to build one aircraft carrier they failed to provide adequate shielding for the nuclear reactor. Oh, and have you fished out that 18 ton piece of trash (propeller) which fell off your prestigious aircraft carrier into our national waters yet?

    Yes Israel has stolen our technologies, as has just about every country on the face of the planet. We are the language of science, computers, aeronautics, medicine, and just about every other science you can name. As with the rest of the world we don?t care if you hate us, that?s irrelevant. We just care that you continue to fear us.

  117. 117
    LC Army NCO Guy growls and barks:

    nothin but chimpy, rumzfeld, rove popaganda!

    Sure, whatever, Um No. CNN is quite the hotbed of right-wing propaganda.

  118. 118

    P.S. Don’t call me “anti-semite” or whatever: I have Jewish roots by my father, and many of my friends are Jews! But I really don’t like Israel’s policies, fueling worldwide hatred against the Jewish People!

    Statements like this are always attached as a disclaimer to whatever prejudicial beliefs the speaker wishes to justify (or dismiss).

    “Now I know that sounds harsh, but some of my best friends are black!”

    “I don’t hate gays. I actually have homosexual friends!”

    Life is so much simpler when you accept the fact that you’re just as flawed as the rest of us.

  119. 119
    Mark growls and barks:

    This one’s for you, Heather, you sexy thing.

    Merry Christmas to all!

  120. 120
    Mike M growls and barks:

    What bullshit mrs heather! are you stupid?

    nothin but chimpy, rumzfeld, rove popaganda!

    Posted by Um Yeah at December 24, 2004 09:35 AM

    Um, While you still have the opportunity, shouldn’t you be out stealing Salvation Army collection kettles and vandalizing nativity scenes instead of hanging around here spreading vitriol?

  121. 121
    LC Denita TwoDragons, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Warning to all blogging LC’s–Robert McClelland is on the loose again. I had the distinct pleasure of deleting him at my site just a second ago…

    –TwoDragons

  122. 122
    LC#2112 growls and barks:

    Mark-

    This one’s for you, Heather, you sexy thing.

    That link was just too funny…thanks for the nice Chirstmas gift!!

  123. 123
    LC mrs heather, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Mark,

    So you have the hots for SpongeBob SquarePants?

    Seriously, BRILLIANT film. You’re a great dancer too, btw.

    Happy Christmas to all LCs and those rare trolls who are close to my heart. God bless and keep you all.

    Now, onward to A Christmas Story and Bridget Jones Diary marathons!

    XOXOXOXO’s Everyone,

    “Mrs H”

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    steven harper growls and barks:

    once again I stand hard at attention to do manly combat with Tsuki in her sailor outfit and the Battle of the pyramids guys. And LCDusty my big bro’s name is Stephan yah I know our mother is crazy it runs in the family. haha nah just joking harper is a good guy better then our liberal PM martin. What ev I dont know votes for that guy everyone I know votes for Consevative or NDP. first battle o’ pyramids-
    1. Geneva Initiative is the best hope for any sort of lasting peace. If this is ever agreed upon which I sort of doubt all Arab countries will recognize Israel’s right to exist at per Crown Prince Abdullah’s proposal. This is good and not particularly easy to reverse. As it stands today two Arab nations- Eygpt and Jordan recognize Israel. In Eygpt’s case for 25 years thru Israel’s invasion of Lebanon, the late 1980′s intifada, and the ongoing intifada. Needless to say this is good Eygpt used to be Israel’s number 1 enemy. Eygpt and Jordan get quite a lot of money from Israeli tourism and use to get more but Taba bombing in particular devasted this. About your point about ease of taking back promises I dont see Israel letting in a sea of refugees any time soon and I happen to believe Israel could easily reinvade the West Bank if the need be. But for any lasting peace the settlements will have to come down they are illegal under several UN resolutions and the 4th Geneva Convention relating to occupations. This obviously very hard to do but is nessicary for lasting peace.
    2. Ah dont be fooled by Iran their just trying to look tough just as Saddam try to pretend he had WMDs to hold Iran at bay. Didn’t really fool me I lived next to an airbase in Saudi too wasn’t worried. But that aside Israel has min. 300 good nukes these aren’t ghetto Pakistani or korean(North) nukes with missles easily spanning the middle east and they either have missle launching from submarines capability or are working on it. It is a disturbing stereotyping that all Arab children are schooled to hate Israel. The majority are not in hardline Islamist schools. Just like not all Jewish children are schooled in hardline Orthodox schools Im guessing. About the demolitions how about I destroy your house you would be a little annoyed I’m guessing. The Irish harboured terrorist the Brits never levelled their villages past 1945 it just causes more trouble. I state again blowing up pizzarias does not help the Palestinian cause just like home demolitions and shooting up Palestinian school children certianly does not do Israel any favours. Dont give the people any more reason to support the Hamas.
    3. Massacres are not the Jewish or Arabs Armies way of war. These occur normally by badly led or trained militias. By all accounts Israel and its Arab opponants followed the rules of war as well as they could. Reports of shooting of Eygptian POWs in the 50s I believe but I dont know about those. The problem starts in occupation and certianly in Lebanon that was just a mess. Sharon I believe found responible for letting in Christian Phalangists into Palestinian refugees camp which cause deaths of over 2000 people in Sabra and Shatilla. This bruttality was itself revenge for Palestinian attacks on Christian cities.
    4. Oslo was a good staring point but the Israelis never held their end of the bargin just like Arafat. Yes lots Arabs would be stoked if Israel was wipe off the map just like a lot readers of this site would be happy if the Middle East was a gaint sheet of radioactive glass. But large number of Arabs esp. the elites and middle class have realized Israel is here to stay and you gotta to deal with it. Just like Turkey who is very pro-Israel and Eygpt and Jordan who deal with it. If Syria had the Golan hieghts they would be down too but thats not going to happen any time soon Golan had too much water and defence value.

    Ah well have a good one and I’ll get back to sailor moon girl later.

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    If you listen closely, you can hear the sound of a fool deliberately baiting Tsuki. I almost — almost — feel sorry for him.

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    steven harper growls and barks:

    ah damn just erased what I was writing too bad.
    I’ll just leave some links

    Deir Yassin was a village near the entrance to Jerusalem, north west of Givat Shaul. Not wishing to endanger itself, it had concluded a peace pact with Givat Shaul that was approved by Yitzhak Navon, who headed the Arab division of Haganah intelligence. A similar pact was made by the village of Abu Ghosh. There is every indication that Deir Yassin kept to this pact. They had repeatedly and actively resisted alliances and offers of help from irregulars headquartered in Ein Kerem,3 though it is possible that some Palestinian irregulars were quartered there against the will of the inhabitants. The village was separated from the Jerusalem road by a high ridge, and villagers could only reach the main road through Givat Shaul. There was no possibility of controlling the main road or firing on the main road from the village.

    http://www.ariga.com/peacewatch/dy/dycg.htm
    this further shows the truth that Tsuki is trying to hide
    and is important they were not Haganah

    At the beginning of April Irgun and Lehi commanders met and decided to attack Deir Yassin. They rejected suggestions by their own commanders, and by Haganah commander David Shaltiel, to attack strategically important targets (Sheikh Jerakh, Ein Kerem, Qoloniya) because they felt they were too difficult for their inexperienced and ill-equipped soldiers. 5They investigated and found, to the best of their knowledge, that Deir Yassin was a quiet and peaceful village, and decided to attack it nonetheless.

    and is was a bad precedant

    Mordehai Gihon, intelligence officer of the Haganah Etzioni Brigade, wrote in his report, submitted April 10 1948:The murder of falachim and innocent citizens, faithful allies of the western sector, who kept faith despite pressure from the gangs, even during the conquest of Sharfa, {Mt Herzl} may lose us the trust of all those Arabs who hoped to be saved from destruction by agreements with us.

    it might have been a while ago but still important to remember.

    And Morris Mottamed is the Jewish member of the Irani member
    there’s a couple Christians too, hell the US congress doesn’t have any Muslims

    At least 1,661 of those killed (including 531 minors) were not involved in hostilities when they were killed. B’Tselem has not been able to determine whether an additional 550 Palestinians (including 31 children) participated in hostilities.

    Ages of the minors killed: One hundred and fourteen minors were age 17, one hundred and twenty seven were age 16, eighty five were age 15, eighty were age 14, fifty five were age 13, thirty two age 12, twenty were age 11, twenty three were age 10, fifteen were age 9, ten were age 8, nine were age 7, seven were age 6, three were age 5, seven were age 4, six were age 3, six were two years old, four were one year old babies, one was an 11 month old baby girl, one was a 6 month old baby girl and one was a four month old baby girl.

    The shooting of the Gazan teenager, Iman al Hams, has sparked the greatest outrage. Last month, an Israeli captain was charged with emptying his weapon into the schoolgirl to ensure that she was dead.

    After initially being cleared of any wrongdoing, the captain came under fire from fellow soldiers who accused him of stepping over the line. Then a top Israeli news program aired tapes of the incident showing that the soldiers knew the suspicious figure was a girl who was “dying of fear.”

    In an audiotape of radio transmissions, jittery soldiers can be heard describing the figure as a little girl running for cover after they fired warning shots. Four minutes later, the soldiers opened fire on the girl. The captain then can be heard saying, “Confirm the kill.

    “Anyone who moves in the area, even if he’s 3 years old, must be killed,” the captain told soldiers over his radio.

    The captain went to check on the girl, fired two shots from his M-16 into her head, then emptied his weapon, according to the indictment.

    rough
    just like sucide bombing this does not help the Israeli cause this guy was almost let off as well

    you wanted evidence the Jewish children hate the Palestinians here ya go Disclaimer: yah its a sketchy site but the report seems to be solid.

    http://www.rense.com/general38/study.htm

    of course John Kerry is a liar he is a politican. He is not a traitor he is Bush-lite. He is a smart guy with guts but I would not vote him his continuing approval of the Iraq war is unforgivable.

    “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.”
    — Dwight Eisenhower

    Anyway you peace out Tsuki and I salute your valient and brave efforts to save Western civilization from subversives like me. A traitor like the White Rose time to be gilloutined eh.

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    I see one of charter members of the Bong Brigade has stumbled onto this blog.

    With numerous spelling errors and laughable bravado, steven harper goes forth like some kind of socialist Don Quixote charging at the evil Republican windmills of the Bush/Cheney oligarchy.

    And he thinks he’s capable of “subverting western civilization”.

    Thanks for the laugh! After my last minute foray into the teeming masses of capitalist worshipers of materialism, I needed it.

    The length and blathering nature of his posts indicate that steve’s been huffing on the proverbial “hippie lettuce”.

    I’m sure Che’ Moonbatvara will be back amidst billowing clouds of pot smoke to show us more examples of the evils of war, Republicans and the I.D.F.

    At any rate, Merry Christmas steven. I look foward to more of your THC induced ramblings in the near future.

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    LC Tsuki Hoseki growls and barks:

    It is Christmas now. For that reason alone, Tsuki is trying very hard not to let herself get as angry as Mr. Steven Harper is trying to make her. So she will only address one of Mr. Harper’s many lies:

    you wanted evidence the Jewish children hate the Palestinians

    No, LIAR, Tsuki did not ask for evidence that Israeli children hate Arabs. Any fool could tell you that they might, given that the Arab barbarians slaughter Israelis at every chance.

    Tsuki demanded evidence that the Israeli government indoctrinates its children with hatred for Palestinians, and that Israeli parents deliberately sends their children out to attack Palestinians, hoping that they will be killed so the parents can parade their child’s corpse in front of the media’s cameras and call them a “martyr.”

    This is what the Palestinians do to their children, and you are wrong to suggest that anything the Israelis do is even comparable; and you are either too stupid to see that, or too cowardly to admit it.

    You have not provided evidence that the Israelis are the kind of monsters that the Palestinians are. You cannot provide any such evidence, because it does not exist.

    So until you retract your lies, Tsuki is done responding to you, Mr. Harper.

    One last thing, though: Your lack of respect is insulting and intolerable. Do not ever refer to Tsuki as “sailor moon girl” again. You may feel comfortable doing so from the safety of your home, on this blog — but if you were to do so to Tsuki’s face, you would find out what it feels like to get your teeth kicked in by a 4’11″ Japanese woman. Tsuki doubts very much that your attitude would be so snide while rolling on the ground, coughing up blood.

    *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***

    Tsuki has drunk some Amaretto, and is somewhat calmer now. So on that pleasant note, Tsuki is now going to finish wrapping a few presents — one of which is herself, and she is sure that she will have just as much fun as Tao Libra when he is unwrapping that present. *(^_^)*

    She sends her best wishes to our troops, and hopes that they are all safe. Tsuki also wishes that all of the Loyal Citizens who read this are well and happy.

    Merii Kurisumasu! (^_^)

    ps: Tsuki will wish nothing at all about certain other people, because that would be wrong. Today, anyway.

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    Oh, for the record: I don’t feel sorry for him after all. Tee Hee.

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    Natasha G.L.O.R.&I.P.P.W. growls and barks:

    Yawn! The Harping Harpy Harper? is a leftist who justifies terrorism… And that is “news” how?? When are people going to realize that terrorist swine and leftists have much more in common than one would dare to admit? Not only their methods, but even their goals are strikingly similar. Of course, leftists will deny it, publicly. But please, think about it… The implications are disgusting at best, and outright alarming at worst.

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    Deji Pachi growls and barks:

    “Every leftist dipfuck that believes the federal government should take care of everyone from cradle to grave signifies in the final sense a theft of oxygen from those who prefer freedom.”
    – Me

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    Luis Cipher growls and barks:

    Liberals like that need a good sound non-fatal beating. Wakes up the brain cells from the drug-induced torpor.

    Oh, and for some fun, folks; in all news stories and debates repalce Jewish with Almish, Palestinian with Pennsylvanian.

    The images that conjures up…

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    Roger Glass growls and barks:

    TSUKI-SAMA!

    A MOST UNJUST THREAT!!! If Harper keeps lying, you are going to REWARD him, and PUNISH us, by no longer eviscerating him?? NO NO NO! You must continue spilling his guts in his lap. Don’t worry, he’ll regenerate; Prometheus has nothing on him.

    And you, Harper. You have to continue coming back and taking on Tsuki-Sama. She can’t keep leaving you for dead every single time. Keep riding those Jeff Rense UFOs in to the attack; be even more patronizing. Don’t give up now. Victory is within reach. You can taste it. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Hang in there.

    Finally, Tsuki-Sama, are you going to consider my request, or was it too silly?

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    N. O'Brain, IMfUI growls and barks:

    And may there be peace between Palestine and Israel.

    There will be when the “Palestinians” stop murdering Jews.

    There. I just solved one of the world’s major problems.

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    LC Mamapajamas growls and barks:

    Roger G…”TSUKI-SAMA!

    A MOST UNJUST THREAT!!!”

    Aw… c’mon! You KNOW Tsuki never plays “fair”. She’s constantly engaging in battles of wits with unarmed men! How unfair can you get? ;)

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    kjhkjhkjhjkh growls and barks:

    [When you have a point, maybe we'll let you back in.  'Til then - buh-bye.  -The Management™]

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Looks like the belgian ass-monkey is trying for an encore appearance.

    He’s almost maniacal in his attempts to post his drivel.

    By the way, Airbus is heading for financial ruin with that overweight and behind schedule bohemeth that they’re trying to foist onto the unsuspecting public.

    *guffaw*

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    Moi growls and barks:

    L’Airbus c’est nul!

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    Belgian ass-monkey growls and barks:

    thoes are juts, amerinac lise?

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    Sire, I must respectfully request that you take the Imperial Checkbook back under Your Divine Control. BC and the others apparently have been making merry with the Imperial Bank Account Balance and look at the garage sale reject trolls we have to deal with now!