Tim Robbins Buffoonery

The UK Guardian has a brutally scathing article on Tim Robbins, barking Hollywood moonbat.

Juggling act

He’s a writer, he’s a director, he’s an Oscar-winning actor with an Oscar-winning wife. He’s also Hollywood’s most vociferous anti-war campaigner – a constant thorn in the side of the American Neocons. And now he’s bringing his own political satire to the London stage. Andrew Anthony meets the player who refuses to play the game.

You’d expect a typical leftist puff-piece, but once past the introduction it develops quite an edge. The author takes his time playing with the sock-puppet for slobbering stupidity, so it makes for a delightful read, but necessarily a long one.

So I ask how Kosovo was a threat to US security.

‘Ahm…’ he hesitates. ‘I believe… I’m not the right person to talk about this… but that region of the world, this is the way I’ve heard it put… Can I go get a cigarette?’ He disappears and, as if having remembered his Noam Chomsky, returns a minute later with a ready-fit anti-imperialist answer. ‘Where it’s all flawed is this hegemonic belief that if you bring business to a country it will help them.’

Leaving aside what he had said a moment earlier about the Marshall Plan, I say that when I visited Kosovo it was less about bringing business than preventing communal bloodshed.

‘I’m ignorant on this subject,’ he admits, without bluster. ‘I’d have to read up on it.’ He returns to Iraq, a subject on which he has done a fair amount of reading. Contradicting himself once again, he repeats the line that the Iraq war was a neoconservative plot hatched in 1989 by Bush advisers who believed ‘they could spread democracy. They thought they were altruistic’ – so not about destabilisation after all – ‘They were wrong.’

Robbins is not a politician and it is therefore a little unfair to parse his words, teasing out the contradictions and inconsistencies. But his muddled thinking, in which the only continuum is that American foreign policy is always bad, informs his writing as a dramatist. He shows me a scene that he’s editing from Embedded that is both pretentious and simple-minded – not a happy combination – and is reminiscent of the worst shouty agitprop.

The article goes on about his muddled and shallow thinking, mentioning the reviews of his play that call it “sophomoric”. I might expect such an interview on Fox News, but this appeared in the UK Guardian. There aren’t that many people that even the Guardian would dismiss as a leftist buffoon, but Tim Robbins has made the mark. Maybe there’s an ill wind blowing across the entertainment desk.

97 comments

  1. 1
    Walt growls and barks:

    That’s pretty impressive for the Guardian. Is it because he’s such a moonbat, or because he’s such a nitwit that even the other moonbats realize he makes them look bad?

    First!

  2. 2
    Graumagus growls and barks:

    There aren’t that many people that even the Guardian would dismiss as a leftist buffoon, but Tim Robbins has made the mark.

    Damn, that’s like Karl Marx saying “Hey, you’re being a little hard on the capitalists, aren’t you?”

  3. 3
    Lee Rodgers growls and barks:

    This is the core of why I, for one, am bothered by the attention the leftist Hollywood types get. They receive tons of adulation because they have a set of skills for repeating words others have written while being coached by directors. They are given the opportunity to repeat this again and again until the get it just right. In other words, they practice lying until you believe it is true and real. And then they call the President a liar because he stumbles on his words as he honestly says what he believes to be true. Does this make any sense???

  4. 4
    L.C. 51st State, Imperial Machete Mohel growls and barks:

    ‘Where it’s all flawed is this hegemonic belief that if you bring business to a country it will help them.’

    Well, pinhead, have you seen the alternative? Where it’s all flawed is this moonbat belief that if you bring socialism to a country it will help them. Here’s a quick reality check for you, Mr. Robbins. When you look at all of the refugee boats that have ever plied the waters between the U.S. and Cuba, in which direction were they travelling? Keep that answer in mind the next time you open your pie hole, and maybe you won’t have to go for a smoke the next time a reporter refuses to toss you a softball.

  5. 5
    Rob growls and barks:

    I’ll never forgive this fucktard for being in “Bob Roberts”. Thanks dickwad, because of you my name is near meaningless. What the fuck has Hollywood got against the name Robert?! Sideshow Bob, Bob Roberts, etc… It’s like every madman, psycho and loser in a film has to be named Robert or Bob. Fuck it! This c*nt goes on my list.

  6. 6
    B.C., Imperial Torturer? growls and barks:

    Rob, don’t forget Boobert McClusterfuck. :P

  7. 7
    Deathknyte growls and barks:

    Who is Tim Robberts and why is he a thorn in my side?

  8. 8
    Deathknyte growls and barks:

    Robbins, I mean.

    I need to proofread more.

  9. 9
    Natasha G.L.O.R.&I.P.P.W. growls and barks:

    I love watching the loony left disintegrate. I especially love watching them eat their own. Funny thing is, they are all swine, the difference is that of degree of swinishness.

  10. 10
    Wilbur growls and barks:

    The difference between Democrats and Republicans is that we Democrats don’t elect the moron Hollywood types in our party to high office.

    But thanks for the link. That bit where Robbins was trying to discuss Kosovo and Afghanistan was particularly funny. In fact, it reminded me of listening to George W. Bush talking off-script about such topics. Now _thats_ stupid for you!

  11. 11
    skh growls and barks:

    Nope Wilbur, your side simply uses them as policy advisors. I assume that you are referring to Reagan in your snarky post. Well, then. Get specific and name a single thing that would make him deserving of the “moron” moniker. Go ahead…think on it. I can just imagine the DU or Kos regurgitation on the tip of your brown-stained tongue. Fuckwit. Is that what stands in as a refutation, in your sector of public opinion? Or perhaps you are referring to Ah-nold, out in Kalifornia. I bet it really hurts you liberal turds that in a socialist utopian paradise, such as that state would lay claim to be, an admitted (‘tho RINO, in fact) conservative like he could be elected. Fuck you and the gimp donkey you rode in on. Your side enthusiastically embraces the dregs of society that the marketeers push as rap stars and movie greats. It is your side, dingleberry, who bask in the praise of the brainstems of faux comedic mouth-breathers like Whoopsie Goldberg and Jon Stewerdt. I find it ironic that you make gentle offhand remarks, as you did above, because you revel in your ignorance–as you surely must.

  12. 12
    Mob_Triggerman growls and barks:

    I stopped paying serious attention to Hollywood a long time ago. I’d be lucky if I could tell the difference between Tim Robins, Sean Penn, or Jonny Depp.

    Of course, almost everyone here knows that virtually all Hollywood currently serves as a campaign organ for the Democrats. Think about the shit that’s been released in the past few months, with an election just around the corner: The Day After Tommorrow, Farenheit 9/11, The Manchurian Candidate, to name a few.

    Unlike some others, I don’t expect the Hollyweird shits to win massive amounts of converts from the voter population. All I know is that if I hear one more leftist bitch about “Right Wing Media Bias” in the face of roughly half of the media conducting the Dems’ campaign for them, I’ll tie them to the back wall of my garage and force them to listen to the audio version of “The Great Gatsby” until their ears decide to sever themselves.

  13. 13
    Albedo growls and barks:

    we Democrats don’t elect the moron Hollywood types in our party to high office

    No, you just let them “rent” the Lincoln bedroom every once in awhile.

  14. 14
    LC Mary in LA, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    No, you just marry your pols off to moron Hollywood types. *cough* Jane Fonda *cough*

    Hey, they always look great on camera!

  15. 15
    kellyds growls and barks:

    Dear SKH,
    Please don’t run down real gimpy donkeys. My gimpy mammoth jack is stubborn and pigheaded, but he protects the dogs, goats, and even the stupid little mini-horse stud out in the back. (Mostly from Darla, the Percheron mare–Shorty seems to think she is his girlfriend, even if he can walk under her.) I think it is a sorry state of affairs that such a nice beast can be associated with a whole group of a**es….your opinion of Wilbur, on the other hand, seems justified.
    It is unfortunate that the Dems picked such a loser as their candidate. (I had several family members who fought in Viet Nam. Wild burros couldn’t get me to vote for Kerry.) I think it makes for a much better contest and a much better result when there are two real candidates with obvious but real differences in the issues they support.
    Base my vote on what a actor supports? Not unless it is someone like James Woods, who went to MIT before he dropped out to start acting (and got either a perfect 1600 or near perfect on his SAT). Guess what? He is a conservative….

  16. 16
    Bill H growls and barks:

    I find it ironic that you make gentle offhand remarks, as you did above, because you revel in your ignorance–as you surely must.

    He doesn’t just revel in it, skh, he displays it proudly. Hell, I kinda think his intelligence could be compared to that old saw about trading in the car once the ashtray is full- he likes to keep his shiny clean and unused.

  17. 17
    Free Bird growls and barks:

    Fuck Hollywood.

    I quit watching movies all together. Ain’t nothing worth a shit they’ve turned out lately anyways. Started boycotting them along with the French and the Germans and the Candians at the start of the war on terror. I don’t eat no more bacon or pancake syrup and have cut out wine and beer altogether from my diet and do not watch anything with cnadian actors in it including that mike meyers faggot.

    I also quit watching CNN, C-SPAN, ABC, Disney, and MSNBC since they fired Savage. Fuckin’ CBS went and made that Reagan miniseries shit and I ain’t about to watch them neither.

    Just about the only things we can trust these days are Fox News (though I am suspect of them at times, The Weekly Standard and talk radio. But the freakin libs are taking over that too with Al Franken and Al Gore claiming he invented the goddamned integrated circuit and the semi-colon.

    Say what you will about the good reverend pat Robertson, but at least he gives a pretty good rundown on what’s really going on in the world. If Fucking French John Kerry Ketchup Queer gets elected God help us all. Where will we go? If that bastard can fake half a dozen medals and sneak them past the noble institutions of military service in this country, think of what he will do when Al Quaeda tries to bribe him for the freakin’ launch codes!!

  18. 18
    TheSoldier growls and barks:

    think of what he will do when Al Quaeda tries to bribe him for the freakin’ launch codes!!
    Posted by Free Bird at August 30, 2004 02:46 AM

    They won’t have to bribe him, just buy him like the Chinese did.

    BTW, I’ve taken your exact position on Hollyweird, FUCK THEM ALL, they will never get another cent of my money, along with france and germany. Canada is really starting to piss me off too.

  19. 19
    Imperial Firearms Advisor growls and barks:

    Yer Rottieness,

    Excuse the OT comment, but I thought I’d just let you know that The Mrs. and I are safe in EUnuchland, and it’s as socialist as you remember, if not more so.

    Yesterday, Amsterdam, today, Brussels, weekend in… (to be continued)

  20. 20
    LC NeilV growls and barks:

    Mr Dutoit,
    Beware of the euro trash they smell worse then our hippies.I left Amsterdam on Weds and still cant get the funk out of my clothes lol
    cheers and good luck over the pond

  21. 21
    Varmint growls and barks:

    Well I aint got much to say about movieland other than it’s a commie infested boil on a roach’s ass and should be shut down good and proper. Of course the PC brigade won’t like that but they can suck my firing iron.

    Mr Firearms Advisor, watch you don’t get socialist shitstains on your boots we worry for your health in Kommie Kaffir country. Just sayin’ is all.

    Oh, and WILBUR, you aint fit to mop up the ketchup from Gip’s drool, you screeching anal wart. You monkey infested vomit-leeching Jane-Fonda-f***ing, Hollweird-watching, Moore-onizing COMMIE FREAK! stop SHRIEKING you think we can’t FIND you behind your whore-of-a-mother’s keyboard??? Well, we can. Got it? Good.

    Now let us grownups speak.

  22. 22
    Varmint growls and barks:

    Oh yeah, and Wilbur, you made me burn my copy of Barbie-rella, and I feel a better man already. Feels kinda funny, yet, I feel sorta…clean, righteous

    Recommend you do the same, Commie limpdick Islam lover. Go back to France and take that traitorous, murdering, lying sack of horse dung *spit-spit* Ker*y *pullsdownpants-and-shits and another spit* with you. Heh.

  23. 23
    LC Spud growls and barks:

    Kim, apart from the socio-communists running the place, the fucktards in Brussels and the Eurovision Song Contest, Europe aint that bad ;)

    But, 51st State is looking better by the day ;)

    (the novel, not the poster here, I hasten to add)

  24. 24
    L.C. 51st State, Imperial Machete Mohel growls and barks:

    And a damned fine novel it is, too. I heartily recommend it. (And who’s to say? I could be looking better by the day, too…)

  25. 25
    Wilbur growls and barks:

    I’ll admit that Bush makes Reagan look like a genius (man! whoda thunk that there would ever be a subject you could plug into that sentence without making the entire English language explode!), but I wasn’t just talking about him and Ahnold. There’s also Fred Thompson, Sonny Bono, Fred Gumby (or whatever his name is, that little twerp from Iowa who was on the Love Boat, for chrissakes), etc. etc.

    In contrast, can you name one Hollywood liberal moonbat who has ever been nominated by the Dems for any post higher than school board or mayor of some tooty suburb?

    The reason: Dems prefer candidates with real knowledge and experience. Repubs prefer empty hats that that can read lines well and look good on TV while the actual running of the country goes on behind closed doors.

    Unfortunately, your current presidential front man is an empty hat who can’t even read lines particularly well. Better hurry up with that constitutional amendment allowing Austrians to run for pres!

  26. 26
    Harry in Atlanta growls and barks:

    Hey Wilbur you still got that talking horse? You know the smart one.

  27. 27
    Sharps Shooter growls and barks:

    Robert, I know how you feel.

    One of my best friends is named
    Kerry Dean! He’s been having a
    very bad year, what with the political slimeballs
    using his names in a despicable manner!

    Robbins? He’s an ignorant, highly talented,
    self-centered (how do you spell barking?)
    moonbat!

  28. 28
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    If Bush is such an idiot, why does he constantly make the democrats look like fools? By all logic, he should be behind in the polls by double digits.

    If Reagan was such a moron, why did he run rings around the democrats, winning two terms handily?

    For that manner, why is it that all those “knowledgeable and experienced democrat candidates” lose to the likes of Sonny Bono, Ahnold, Fred Thompson, etc.

    Thanks for illustrating how incompetent and pathetic the democrats have become these last couple of decades.

    By the way, before you start honking “What about Clinton?”, remember that the democrats lost the house and senate under his watch and the Republican “empty suits” managed to reduce his legacy to one of corruption, the debacle known as Hillarycare, impeachment, and a stained blue dress.

  29. 29
    Mr. Ed growls and barks:

    Haaarry,

    Wilbur won’t talk to me ever since I blasted him with two horseshoes to his nuts when he tried to get “fresh”.

    *wink*

  30. 30
    N. O'Brain, IMfUI growls and barks:

    Yeah, President Regan was such an idiot that he won World War III, the Cold War.

    There have been some fucktard reactionary leftist moonbats hanging around here, but you take the cake, wilbur.

  31. 31
    Walter Wallis growls and barks:

    I wonder if Wilbur could make an instrument landing in a Delta Dagger?

  32. 32
  33. 33
    fdcol63 growls and barks:

    The Hollywood elite live in a make-believe, pretend, fantasy world where everything is scripted to unfold and end exactly as they want it to.

    They are also accustomed to their celebrity, used to living in luxury that few others can afford, surrounded by sycophants and star-worshippers who tell them exactly what they want to hear and who feed their insecure egos.

    The REAL world isn’t like that.

  34. 34
    LC Bishop growls and barks:

    OT, but here’s a nice op-ed piece: 10 things to celebrate Why I’m an anti-anti-American

    In the SF Gate, no less!

  35. 35
    DumbAss Tanker growls and barks:

    Burnt your copy of Barbarella?!?!?! Oh Hell no, not once I heard that Jane “Traitor” Fonda was ashamed of making such a fluffy sexist trashy film….that vastly multiplied the film’s (otherwise rather limited) charm, for me.

  36. 36
    lauraw growls and barks:

    He is Susan Sarandon’s kept woman, that is how I have always thought of him.

    That, and I had wondered once, how he deals with the fact that his wife has such a huge camel toe that other people can see it when she’s wearing jeans. JEANS, people. Remember that commercial she was in? I mean, holy crap that’s a big camel toe.

  37. 37
    Radical Redneck growls and barks:

    holy crap that’s a big camel toe

    Rosie needs a place to rest her oversized chin ;-)

  38. 38
    Walt growls and barks:

    If Bush is such an idiot, why does he constantly make the democrats look like fools? By all logic, he should be behind in the polls by double digits.

    If Reagan was such a moron, why did he run rings around the democrats, winning two terms handily?

    For that manner, why is it that all those “knowledgeable and experienced democrat candidates” lose to the likes of Sonny Bono, Ahnold, Fred Thompson, etc.

    And here you have the dilemma of the left, and I suspect the reason why they hold the common folk in such contempt. They -know- that they are smarter and more virtuous than we are (just ask ‘em!) and yet when they show their true colors they get voted out of office.

    So those who oppose them must be stupid or venal. By definition. The idea of ‘misguided’ only occurs to the most honest of them, and none of them seem to be able to handle the mental concept of ‘maybe I’m wrong, I’d better think about this.’ (Okay, that’s an exaggeration. But the ones who -can- handle that concept tend to become conservatives.)

    Given their beliefs, the only possible conclusions they can reach are that either the right is lying to the public about them or that the citizens are too stupid to recognize that it’s in their own interests to turn things over to the superior leftist ideologues, or both.

    And since Bush is not perceived as evil by all those ignorant citizens (the barking moonbats think he is, though – just look at their signs) they fall back on screeching that he’s stupid. They -can’t- entertain the concept that he might be right, even when he agrees with one of their positions. Look how fast Kerry made that 180 when Bush said we were going to pull out of Europe. They can’t admit that The Enemy (which somehow does not include islamofascists – oh, yeah, Bush thinks they’re evil, so they must be good!) can be right about anything.

  39. 39
    zetetic growls and barks:

    Rosie needs a place to rest her oversized chin

    No, it’s chins.

  40. 40
    Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant growls and barks:

    I’ll admit that Bush makes Reagan look like a genius

    And where are your  Yale and Harvard degrees, moron? (*snicker*)

  41. 41
    Wacky Hermit growls and barks:

    re camel toes: have you seen how low cut the fashionable jeans are? any normal woman would show camel toe (not to mention crack in the back) with those jeans.

  42. 42
    fdcol63 growls and barks:

    Seems as though the fashion world has been stuck in a retro-60′s and retro-70′s look for about 15 years now.

    No doubt caused by older, mature fashion designers reliving their own youth vicariously through Generations X and Y.

    Please! Make it stop!

    LOL

  43. 43
    LC Mary in LA, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    Hey, I still have my puka shells! Not to mention half a dozen Qiana shirts that don’t even come close to fitting me any more… not that I would wear them even if I could, inasmuch as the entire ’70s aesthetic was an offense to good taste, except for the omnipresent Boston ferns in brass planters…

    Umm, what? The topic? What topic? Oh! Umm… errr… heh…

  44. 44
    Wilbur growls and barks:

    Ladies, gentlemen, conservatives, labradoodles, my mind is blown.

    To answer someone’s question, no, I cannot do an instrument landing in a jet fighter. Is that how you tell whether a person is smart or stupid? Well I guess I’m stupid, then.

    Too bad that when Ben Barnes leapforgged the Bush boy into the guard, W checked that “do not volunteer” box for serving overseas, eh? With him intelligently instrument-landing his ass all over Vietnam “WW III” might have been over a lot sooner, eh?

    For the record, I can’t pilot a swift boat, either.

    And no, I do not have degrees from Harvard or Yale. So that’s the criterion of whether one is smart or not among today’s conservatives? Well blow me down! Kerry has a Yale degree too, so I guess this is an election between two Einsteins, eh?

    Seems to me I’ve heard things in the past about “legacy admissions” and “gentlemen’s C’s”, but that must be all bullshit, eh? Previously I judged a person’s wisdom on what he says, writes and does, but now you have taught me that it’s all about getting a piece of parchment from the right schools, eh?

    I also found out here that it is liberals who think the rest of the country is stupider than they are. Wow, what a revelation. So I guess it is Al Franken who claims he debates people with half his brain behind his back? I suppose it was Noam Chomsky who wrote that book entitled “Surrounded by Idiots”. All those posts on this site calling people morons, fuckwits and shitstains must have been written by stuck-up snotty trolls like me. And it must be Kerry, rather than Bush, whose whole campaign is premised on the notion that Americans are too stupid to understand the difference between “authorizing the president to go to war” and “approving of whatever fool thing the president does”, eh?

    As for why histrionic republican Hollywood types sometimes win elections against better qualified Democrats, well, the old Wilbur probably would have spouted some nonsense from that old non-Havard-educated pseudo-intellectual Abe Lincoln about the temporary gullibility of portions of the populace.

    The old Wilbur might also have responded to the suggestion that Bush is cleaning liberal clocks right and left by pointing to the current polls, all of which show the election to be a statistical dead heat. Which, if the economy is doing as well as you all say it is, and if the war in Iraq is humming along as swimmingly as one is led to beleive by reading this site and listening to the (no doubt Yale-diplomate) foghorns on talk radio and fox news, is truly (the old Wilbur might observe) an unprecedently bad position for the incumbent to be in at this point in the campaign. The old Wilbur might snarkily remark that the American people are not as dumb as you (or W) hope that they are.

    The old Wilbur might point out that even if reactionaries find some success among certain populations over short spans of time, over the long haul of civilized history mankind has become more and more liberal, a development that has coincided with increased civil liberties, increased acknowledgement of universal equality and brotherhood, increases in science, industry, commerce and lifespan. In short, history proves that conservatives are always wrong.

    That’s all stuff that the old Wilbur might say, but have no fear, this is the new Wilbur speaking. I’ve been put in my place and re-educated. I know that you are all much smarter than me, and have your harvard and yale degrees to prove it. I’ll just sit here with my righteously castrated testicles in my hand waiting for the pearls of wisdom to drop down on me like manna from heaven.

    But while I’m waiting, please, lets have some more “Mr. Ed” jokes. After the 100th time or so they start to get really funny, eh?

  45. 45
    fdcol63 growls and barks:

    Wilbur,

    It’s a free country, and this blog is optional. If you don’t like what’s said here, you can always find another blog that is more compatible with your political ideology, and where your feelings don’t get hurt.

    It’s pretty much why many of us in the VRWC don’t spend a lot of time on DemocraticUnderground and MoveOn.org.

    LOL

  46. 46
    zetetic growls and barks:

    If you don’t like what’s said here, you can always find another blog that is more compatible with your political ideology, and where your feelings don’t get hurt.

    I’ll second that. Buh bye now.

  47. 47
    Wilbur growls and barks:

    Great Gipper’s Ghost! You mean reading baddoggienotonthepersiancarpet.net is not compulsory in Bush’s America?

    No wonder the teen pregnancy rates are soaring!

    I mean, it’s not like I actually enjoy coming here and taking the piss out of you snotrockets or anything, is it?

    But don’t worry fucol, zetetic, I hear you. What you’re really saying is Wah! Go home, Wilbur, and leave me to my delusional right-wing fantasy world. I just can’t enjoy Star Wars, D&D or the Republican Convention with you around!

    Well okay, I’m not a cruel man. I’ll lay off……for now.

  48. 48
    LC ms heather,G.L.O.R., trollhuntress ? growls and barks:

    And lay off the dope too, Wilburrrr, while you’re at it.

    Your lot likes to live in the candy sweet, Kumbayah, “hugs not bombs/guns” Wally World; we live in the Real World.

    (And no, I’m not talking about thd MTV show)

  49. 49
    fdcol63 growls and barks:

    Wilbur,

    fucol? I’m sure that was just a typo, since I addressed you in a civil manner, and I’m sure you’re mature enough to extend the same courtesy to me.

    Have a good evening.

  50. 50
    dimpenumbra growls and barks:

    To tell the truth, I actually enjoyed “Bob Roberts,” warts and all. In fact, I wouldn’t mind buying some of his records. :)

  51. 51
    Wilbur growls and barks:

    ms heather: you’re right: hugs and rainbows and teddy bears. That’s what I’m all about. Yup!

  52. 52
    LC Mary in LA, G.L.O.R. growls and barks:

    “Can you feel the l♥ve tonight?…”

    I found some Care Bears for ya, Wilbur. Enjoy!

  53. 53
    Varmint growls and barks:

    Hey Wilbur,

    Who got his panties in a twisting fashion? Who wants to lick Moores wee wee? Good god have you swallowed the jizz of Liberalism? Your idiocy are not welcome, here’s a clue:

    fact 2:

    George Bush is cleverer than you and Kerry put together.

    Fact1: You and Kerry should be put together, on a swift boat to France. Heh.

    Got it? Good.

    Now let us grownups speak.

  54. 54
    zetetic growls and barks:

    No, Willsuck, what I’m actually saying is, “Fuck off and die. You’re not wanted here, but then again you’re not wanted anywhere so maybe you ought to stop and think why that is. And you might want to stop projecting your fanboy shit while you’re at it.”

  55. 55
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    *yawn*

    Looks like Wilbur is starting to get pouty.

    “taking the piss out of you snotrockets”

    Yeah Wilbur, that’s what you’re doing. (rolls eyes)

    The funny thing is, you’re the one doing all the whimpering and complaining.

    “The old Wilbur would blah, blah, blah, and the old Wilbur would blah, blah, blah, etc” ad nauseam

    You sound like a six year old that had his lollipop taken away.

    “I’ll lay off…….for now.”

    No you won’t. Your ridiculously inflated ego won’t let you. You’ll prattle on with inane nonsense while patting yourself on the back for you supposed “cleverness”.

    You’ve convinced yourself that you’re disrupting this blog when in actuality, you’re just another insipid troll in a long line of trolls that serve as little more than a diversion.

    Stay or go, it really doesn’t matter because you aren’t relevant.

    You’re bleats of “Look at me!, Look at me!” are hardly unique in the blogosphere.

    Months from now when you’re long gone, someone will say, “Whatever happened to Wilbur?” and the reponse around here will be………

    “Who’s Wilbur?”

  56. 56
    Mr. Ed growls and barks:

    Hello Folks,

    You’ll have to pardon Wilbur for being such an obnoxious little monkey.

    He’s never been the same since I kicked him in the head when he tried to…well, you already know that story.

    When he posts his idiotic claptrap, just remember that he’s only a drooling Idiot Savant with a misshapen head (thanks to me) and treat the poor soul accordingly.

    *wink*

  57. 57
    Lord Spatula I, K&T growls and barks:

    Ladies, gentlemen, conservatives, labradoodles, my mind is blown.

    Actually, Wilbrrrrrrr, those bongs of yours blew your mind out long ago.  Don’t look at us;  we didn’t do it. (snicker)

    To answer someone’s question, no, I cannot do an instrument landing in a jet fighter. Is that how you tell whether a person is smart or stupid?

    And I suppose that, by extension, you don’t care if your basic Delta pilot had any more than a seventh-grade education?  That really doesn’t make any difference to you, since you seem to not place much emphasis on intelligence, dumbass?

    Well I guess I’m stupid, then.

    Tell us something we don’t  know.

    Too bad that when Ben Barnes leapforgged

    “Leapforgged”?  This is a word?

    the Bush boy into the guard, W checked that “do not volunteer” box for serving overseas, eh?

    Not that it really matters, since your homey LBJ never sent Bush’s NG unit into combat – but I suppose you have a link for that, or are you just pulling that out of your ass like everything else you’ve spewed around here?

    With him intelligently instrument-landing his ass all over Vietnam “WW III” might have been over a lot sooner, eh?

    At least he wouldn’t have been jacking around with a grenade launcher like your honey Boy Botox did.

    For the record, I can’t pilot a swift boat, either.

    The guess from here is that you’d have problems with a dinghy, simp. (snicker)

    And no, I do not have degrees from Harvard or Yale. So that’s the criterion of whether one is smart or not among today’s conservatives?

    Yeah, dumbass, it is.  I realize that you’re impressed with your Romper Room diploma, but we require just a bit more. (chuckle)

    Well blow me down! Kerry has a Yale degree too, so I guess this is an election between two Einsteins, eh?

    Kerry’s not criticizing Bush’s intelligence like you are, moron.  You don’t want to have your ass handed to you like that, don’t bring it up, simp.

    Seems to me I’ve heard things in the past about “legacy admissions” and “gentlemen’s C’s”, but that must be all bullshit, eh?

    Prove it, Short Bus.  Let’s see the link.

    Previously I judged a person’s wisdom on what he says, writes and does

    Yeah, so do we.  That’s why we’re not that impressed with you. (chortle)

    but now you have taught me that it’s all about getting a piece of parchment from the right schools, eh?

    That’s what you get for throwing your tantrums in third grade while everyone else was studying, Willlllbrrrrrrrrrrr. (guffaw)

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    Wilbur growls and barks:

    Typical response from you folks: 5 blusters, 3 whines, a dozen adolescent insults, zero substance, one Mr. Ed joke, and a rich layer of bullshit icing.

    Exception made for Mary; gratias tibi ago, hostis amica, for the link to the Care Bear game. I never realized before that a Care Bear with a scowl on its face bears a striking resemblance to Karl Rove and Dick Cheney. That made the game all too easy for me, I’m afraid.

    Exception also made for Lord Spatula who, in his pompously fatuous way, at least has the cojones to step up and address some of the issues of my post. Bring it on, thou monarch of the kitchen implements!

    To answer someone’s question, no, I cannot do an instrument landing in a jet fighter. Is that how you tell whether a person is smart or stupid?

    And I suppose that, by extension, you don’t care if your basic Delta pilot had any more than a seventh-grade education? That really doesn’t make any difference to you, since you seem to not place much emphasis on intelligence, dumbass?

    Huh?

    the Bush boy into the guard, W checked that “do not volunteer” box for serving overseas, eh?

    Not that it really matters, since your homey LBJ never sent Bush’s NG unit into combat – but I suppose you have a link for that, or are you just pulling that out of your ass like everything else you’ve spewed around here?

    Have you been in orbit around Jupiter or something for the last five years? Oh, whatever. here ya go.

    With him intelligently instrument-landing his ass all over Vietnam “WW III” might have been over a lot sooner, eh?

    At least he wouldn’t have been jacking around with a grenade launcher like your honey Boy Botox did.

    Face it: even if the swift boat liars have – by some freakish coincidence – stumbled onto the truth about Kerry’s medals, young Kerry still put his ass on the line for Uncle Sam more than young W did.

    Seems to me I’ve heard things in the past about “legacy admissions” and “gentlemen’s C’s”, but that must be all bullshit, eh?

    Prove it, Short Bus. Let’s see the link.

    Okay, dumbass. Hope that site isn’t too moonbatty for you. While it’s true I didn’t go to Harvard OR Yale, I did go to an ivy (Penn, thank you very much), and anybody in the ivies will tell you that a transcript like that means “we’d flunk you if we could but we’re hoping your daddy will buy us a new stadium”. Hell, one of the things I used to admire about Bush before I got to know him real well was the fact that he was upfront about his -shall we say – modest academic talents.

    Willlllbrrrrrrrrrrr.

    If they can’t up your dilantin dose any more, you can set the repeat rate on your keyboard so that doesn’t happen when you spaz out.

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    Lord Spatula I, K&T growls and barks:

    Typical response from you folks: 5 blusters, 3 whines, a dozen adolescent insults, zero substance, one Mr. Ed joke, and a rich layer of bullshit icing.

    Yeah, well – sorry we have to come down to your level, but had you at least tried  in Romper Room…

    That made the game all too easy for me, I’m afraid.

    Okay, now I’m confused.  Where do you get off thinking that you’ve somehow bested us after having your ass handed back to you here time after time after time?

    Exception also made for Lord Spatula who, in his pompously fatuous way, at least has the cojones to step up and address some of the issues of my post. Bring it on, thou monarch of the kitchen implements!

    You’ll pardon me if I don’t think you’d really want that.  I just got through this weekend taking someone up on a “bring it on”, and he didn’t have the stomach for it, either.

    And I suppose that, by extension, you don’t care if your basic Delta pilot had any more than a seventh-grade education? That really doesn’t make any difference to you, since you seem to not place much emphasis on intelligence, dumbass?

    Huh?

    You ridiculed the way we attribute intelligence to people who can fly fighter jets – and, by extension, other types of aircraft.

    Would you prefer your average airline pilot to not  have an education?  Perhaps you’d like to go up with Max Baer’s character “Jethro” in a Sopwith Camel???

    (crickets chirping)

    Okay, then, next…

    Not that it really matters, since your homey LBJ never sent Bush’s NG unit into combat – but I suppose you have a link for that, or are you just pulling that out of your ass like everything else you’ve spewed around here?

    Have you been in orbit around Jupiter or something for the last five years? Oh, whatever. here ya go.

    Like I said – like it matters any.  In fact, like the story itself says, “Bush maintains that he joined the National Guard not to avoid service in Vietnam but because he wanted to be a fighter pilot”.  And, given the choice between his word and the bleatings of the Washington Post… (chuckle)

    And, as we’re rapidly starting to find out, your honey “Boy Botox” didn’t go over there because he wanted to fight, but for political reasons.  Else, why did he sign up for Swift Boats, figuring that they wouldn’t be seeing much action, eh?

    At least he wouldn’t have been jacking around with a grenade launcher like your honey Boy Botox did.

    Face it: even if the swift boat liars have – by some freakish coincidence – stumbled onto the truth about Kerry’s medals, young Kerry still put his ass on the line for Uncle Sam more than young W did.

    Once again, only because LBJ did not call Bush’s unit into service – or are you now going to blame Bush for LBJ’s wartime decisions, hm?

    And again – Kerry signed up for Swift Boats hoping to avoid the very action he eventually saw.  Not surprising, then, that he wrote up so many Lavender Hearts in such a short period of time.

    Seems to me I’ve heard things in the past about “legacy admissions” and “gentlemen’s C’s”, but that must be all bullshit, eh?

    Prove it, Short Bus. Let’s see the link.

    Okay, dumbass. Hope that site isn’t too moonbatty for you.

    I didn’t ask for his transcript, dumb fuck.  I asked for proof about these so-called “legacy admissions” and “gentlemen’s C’s”.

    And – as I expected – you failed to provide it.

    While it’s true I didn’t go to Harvard OR Yale, I did go to an ivy (Penn, thank you very much), and anybody in the ivies will tell you that a transcript like that means “we’d flunk you if we could but we’re hoping your daddy will buy us a new stadium”.

    Ah.  Hearsay, then.  No tangible evidence at all, but the so-called word of a bunch of nameless people whom you probably couldn’t get to vouch for you anyway.

    Uh huh.  Nice. (rolls eyes)  If I were you, I’d ask Penn for my money back.

    Hell, one of the things I used to admire about Bush before I got to know him real well was the fact that he was upfront about his -shall we say – modest academic talents.

    He’s got the Yale & Harvard degrees, sonny, plus an MBA.  Not rocket science to figure out which of the two of you is the idiot around here, now is it?

    If they can’t up your dilantin dose any more, you can set the repeat rate on your keyboard so that doesn’t happen when you spaz out.

    Shame you don’t have the ‘nads to say that to my face, eh, Willllllllbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr???

    (more crickets)

    Nah.  Didn’t think so…

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    zetetic growls and barks:

    Exception also made for Lord Spatula who, in his pompously fatuous way, at least has the cojones to step up and address some of the issues of my post.

    What issues? You come in here spouting the standard DNC talking points and think that somehow makes you this great independent thinker rather than the braindead sheep you truly are. You can find your “issues” “addressed” (read fisked) any number of places on the net if you bothered to look.

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    LC ms heather,G.L.O.R., trollhuntress ? growls and barks:

    Attack Attempt On MSNBC Chris Matthews… Live On Air… Street Set Outside Convention… Hooded protester jumps security line … Police move in immediatly… Guard Tackled… Bush/Cheney supporters gathered near show set at Herald Square pushed and spat on by protesters, fake blood thrown while Matthews remained on air… Developing…

    (via Drudgereport)

    Yeah, Wilburrrrrrr…your side certainly stands for peace and love!

  62. 62
    LC ms heather,G.L.O.R., trollhuntress ? growls and barks:

    If they can’t up your dilantin dose any more, you can set the repeat rate on your keyboard so that doesn’t happen when you spaz out.

    Nah. Just save it for yourself on November 3rd.

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    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    And here’s Wilbur on cue, whimpering and moaning that nobody respects his alleged “superior intellect”.

    It’s hilarious the way that moron makes “exceptions” for Mary and Spats.

    I guess the rest of us will be tossing and turning all night agonizing about how we didn’t make Wilbur’s “cut”.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    What a pompous pseudo-intellectual asshat!

    Nobody else is bothering to address your “talking points” because it’s the same old bullshit thats been discussed here a thousand times before.

    All you are is a target for ridicule and contempt.

    The best part is that your self-inflated ego will keep you coming back for more abuse while you delude yourself with laughable claims of “victory”.

    I hate to break it to you, but you’re just the latest troll laughingstock in a long line of troll laughingstocks that have rolled through this blog.

    Run on back to D.U. and you’ll get to trash Bush all you want without getting your little feelings hurt by those mean ol’ right-wingers.

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    Wilbur growls and barks:

    Okay, now I’m confused. Where do you get off thinking that you’ve somehow bested us after having your ass handed back to you here time after time after time?

    It probably has something to do with the way I keep posting substantive and substantiated comments and get nothing but simian hoots and grunts in return. Just curious… what makes think you ever had my ass to hand back to me? That part of my anatomy is permanently off-limits to you.

    Exception also made for Lord Spatula who, in his pompously fatuous way, at least has the cojones to step up and address some of the issues of my post. Bring it on, thou monarch of the kitchen implements!

    You’ll pardon me if I don’t think you’d really want that. I just got through this weekend taking someone up on a “bring it on”, and he didn’t have the stomach for it, either.

    Yes, I’m sure you often resort to violence when people make you look like a fool.

    You ridiculed the way we attribute intelligence to people who can fly fighter jets – and, by extension, other types of aircraft.

    No, what I ridiculed was your idiot notion that Bush’s incompetence as president was somehow mitigated by the fact that he managed to avoid crashing his F-102s (before he stopped showing up for his physicals, of course).

    Would you prefer your average airline pilot to not have an education? Perhaps you’d like to go up with Max Baer’s character “Jethro” in a Sopwith Camel???

    Gawd! Right wing humor! Is there anything more pathetic?

    (crickets chirping)

    (Wilbur snoring)

    [Lord Flapjackflipper]: but I suppose you have a link for that, or are you just pulling that out of your ass like everything else you’ve spewed around here?

    [me]: Have you been in orbit around Jupiter or something for the last five years? Oh, whatever. here ya go.

    [Lord Pooperscooper]: Like I said – like it matters any.

    Interesting way to apologize, but I accept.

    “Bush maintains that he joined the National Guard not to avoid service in Vietnam but because he wanted to be a fighter pilot”.

    Haw. Presented with an opportunity to serve, W sez well, okay, but only if I can wear one o’ them cool jumpsuits. But I guess he was just following his destiny, wasn’t he? It’s clear W was born to be a pilot, what with that 25% score on the aptitude test and all.

    And, given the choice between his word and the bleatings of the Washington Post… (chuckle)

    Seeing’s how it’s the WaPo that’s reporting his word in this instance, that comment makes a whole lotta sense, yesiree!

    And, as we’re rapidly starting to find out, your honey “Boy Botox” didn’t go over there because he wanted to fight, but for political reasons.

    Try to get your irrational hatred of Kerry under contol, will you? I suppose that it’s totally out of the question that Bush chose the TANG as a relatively safe but politically viable alternative to moving to Canada? While the war was still going on Bush asked for a leave of absence to work on a political campaign in Florida, because, obviously, that’s _really_ the way to take the war to the commies, and the best way for him to use his expensive flight training is to shuttle his ass back and forth between Orlando and Houston.

    Face it: even if the swift boat liars have – by some freakish coincidence – stumbled onto the truth about Kerry’s medals, young Kerry still put his ass on the line for Uncle Sam more than young W did.

    Once again, only because LBJ did not call Bush’s unit into service – or are you now going to blame Bush for LBJ’s wartime decisions, hm?

    Ah, so if LBJ had ordered Bush’s unit to nam, he might have served as bravely as Kerry! And if LBJ had ordered Kerry to pilot his swift boat up the Volga to assassinate Brezhnev, he might have brought an end to the Evil Empire long before Reagan. So by your logic I guess we should name an airport, a federal office building and an aircraft carrier after Kerry. And put his face on the dime. Now if Spartacus had had a piper cub…

    I didn’t ask for his transcript, dumb fuck. I asked for proof about these so-called “legacy admissions” and “gentlemen’s C’s”.

    Okay, while I’m at it should I also provide proof that the world is round, that cows go moo, and that the Pope shits in the woods?

    Hell, one of the things I used to admire about Bush before I got to know him real well was the fact that he was upfront about his -shall we say – modest academic talents.

    He’s got the Yale & Harvard degrees, sonny, plus an MBA. Not rocket science to figure out which of the two of you is the idiot around here, now is it?

    You obviously don’t know many people with advanced degrees, Lord Dickwasher, otherwise you would know that having one – even from a really famous school like Harvard – is no guarantee against being a blithering moron. Bush could have thirty nine degrees from Oxford and a dozen more from Cambridge in addition to his Hahvad and Yale fishwrappers. He could have a IQ of 347 and have scored 16,000,000 on his SAT’s (though I think, in fact, his score was closer to 1100, and I doubt there were too many people who got into Yale with that kind of score whose fathers weren’t congressmen). I don’t give a shit. What I care about is his job performance as president, which has been certifiably imbecilic.

    Interesting to learn, though, that you think degrees from ivy league schools guarantee unimpeachable intellect. I’ll remember that next time one of you wingnuts calls Kerry or Gore or Clinton an idiot.

    Shame you don’t have the ‘nads to say that to my face, eh, Willllllllbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr???

    This is as close to your face as I have any interest in getting, Lord Pisspot. But if this is you offering to do violence to me again, then here, let me save you some trouble….

    kerwack!

    There, I just coldcocked myself on your behalf. Now just let me check something…..

    Yep, you’re still an ignorant putz. Sorry, maybe if you keep beating up people that will change some day.

    Okay, who’s the next labradoodle? Why it’s Zetetic:

    What issues? You come in here spouting the standard DNC talking points and think that somehow makes you this great independent thinker rather than the braindead sheep you truly are. You can find your “issues” “addressed” (read fisked) any number of places on the net if you bothered to look

    I never claimed any originality for the information I presented here. In fact I’d say most of the things I say here are mind-numbingly obvious except to the brainwashed and braindamaged. If you think my assertions are so easily refuted, zetetic, go ahead, refute one. c’mon, you can do it

    now what was that clever thing that Lord Spatula was doing?…. oh yeah…

    (tree frogs croaking)

    Last but not least, the lovely and talented ms heather:

    That’s an interesting story, heather. So what you’re saying is that if one left winger acts in a manner that is neither peaceful nor loving, then no left winger is peaceful or loving?

    Here is a story that proves, according to your own logic, that you and all right-wingers are pathetic hypocritical lying buttfuckers.

    Nighty night, pups; don’t pee on the sofa.

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    LC ms heather,G.L.O.R., trollhuntress ? growls and barks:

    Here is a story that proves, according to your own logic, that you and all right-wingers are pathetic hypocritical lying buttfuckers.

    Ha!

    I wasn’t aware he was spat upon, beaten up, or verbally abused in any way, Wilburrrrrr?

    If he was, prove it.

    BTW, have you ever heard of the Log Cabin Republicans?

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    LC ms heather,G.L.O.R., trollhuntress ? growls and barks:

    Another thing, Wilburrrrr-

    “Buttfuckers” huh?

    Isn’t it ironic you would use that term with that story you linked?

  67. 67
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    I keep posting substantive and substantiated comments and get nothing but simian hoots and grunts in return.

    TRANSLATION:I keep posting the same tired democrat bullshit and everybody’s laughing at me! Stop it! Respect my “superior” intellect! Stop being mean to me!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    We have lift-off.

    And another troll moron is driven into a hysterical shrieking temper tantrum.

    Check out that screed! I can picture Wilbur stamping his little feet and typing out his little tirade as tears of rage trickle down his chubby little cheeks.

    Now the poor little boy, dressed in his John Kerry in ’04 pajamas, curls up in his crib and sobs himself to sleep.

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    Mr. Ed growls and barks:

    tsk tsk tsk

    That Wilbur, his brain damage just keeps getting worse and worse.

    You pay him no mind ms. heather.

    As I mentioned before, he tried that “buttfucker” routine with me and he wound up with crushed nuts and a misshapen head. Some folks never learn.

    Wilbur may have been turned into a gibbering simpleton by that kick to the head, but I have to tell you, He looks soooo cute in those John Kerry in’04 pajamas.

    *wink*

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    ransom growls and barks:

    He [Robbins] makes it clear that he doesn’t go in for Hollywood gossip. Indeed, he takes every opportunity to remind me that he doesn’t go in for Hollywood. He and Sarandon and their three children live in the more bohemian environment of downtown New York.

    Yeah, Robbins and tribe live in downtown NYC when Greenwich becomes the sixth borough.

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    LC ms heather,G.L.O.R., trollhuntress ? growls and barks:

    Note to Wilburrrrrrr— Disagreeing with someone’s actions or lifestyle choice is not hate. Get back to me when the local Republicans burn a cross in his yard, and I’ll condemn it as will many, many other Republicans.

    “Logic for Dummies”—Really feeling the love there, Burrrrrrr…Can’t debate my point, so you resort to calling me dumb. Cute, but I have a feeling my IQ is substantially higher than yours.

  72. 72
    Albedo growls and barks:

    Looks like a lot of them are finally realizing that being a gay republican is kind of like being a black Klansman.

    I could come to the same conclusion about pro-life Democrats.

  73. 73
    Albedo growls and barks:

    So what you’re saying is that if one left winger acts in a manner that is neither peaceful nor loving, then no left winger is peaceful or loving?

    Well there certainly seems to be a pattern emerging, don’t you think?

  74. 74
    LC ms heather,G.L.O.R., trollhuntress ? growls and barks:

    Pretty powerful stuff, Albedo.

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    Lord Spatula I, K&T growls and barks:

    It probably has something to do with the way I keep posting substantive and substantiated comments

    No, can’t be – you haven’t done anything like that, just the usual liberal bullshit.

    Nothing new here, move along…

    and get nothing but simian hoots and grunts in return

    Yeah, well, we do tend to laugh our asses off at morons like you who think they can bring a pop-gun to a firefight of wits. (snicker)

    Just curious… what makes think you ever had my ass to hand back to me?

    That’s probably the way you keep exposing it in this forum and keep getting blasted for you trouble.  Sucks to be you, doesn’t it?

    That part of my anatomy is permanently off-limits to you.

    See, there you go again – making an assumption not supported by the facts.  You’re erroneously assuming that I’d even be the slightest bit interested.

    Try McGreevey in New Jersey; I hear he swings that way. (chuckle)

    Yes, I’m sure you often resort to violence when people make you look like a fool.

    And now you’re projecting your woeful inadequacies on me.  Gee, no wonder your horse nutted you. (snicker)

    No, what I ridiculed was your idiot notion that Bush’s incompetence as president was somehow mitigated by the fact that he managed to avoid crashing his F-102s

    And now you’re projecting your inadequacies on the President – this despite the fact that he has one more Yale degree, one more Harvard degree and  one more MBA than you do.

    Gawd™, what a whiny little gasbag you are.

    (before he stopped showing up for his physicals, of course).

    Oh, would that be like your butt-buddy Qetchup Qing not showing up for Senate Intelligence Committee meetings? (chuckle)

    Would you prefer your average airline pilot to not have an education? Perhaps you’d like to go up with Max Baer’s character “Jethro” in a Sopwith Camel???

    Gawd! Right wing humor! Is there anything more pathetic?

    You mean besides  between your legs, needle-dick? (chortle)

    Like I said – like it matters any.

    Interesting way to apologize, but I accept.

    Wasn’t an apology, assmunch.  You failed to prove your point, and in fact provided ammunition to prove ours.

    Do you trip over your own feet on the way to Romper Room, Short Bus?

    Haw. Presented with an opportunity to serve, W sez well, okay, but only if I can wear one o’ them cool jumpsuits.

    More than your honeyboy Bill Clinton did, isn’t it, fuckface? (snicker)

    But I guess he was just following his destiny, wasn’t he? It’s clear W was born to be a pilot, what with that 25% score on the aptitude test and all.

    I’d rather have someone in Washington who had to work for what he has than some elitist asshole like your sweetie Botox Boy who thinks he was born to it.

    You know, someone who worked  for his money instead of marrying it. (chuckle)

    Seeing’s how it’s the WaPo that’s reporting his word in this instance, that comment makes a whole lotta sense, yesiree!

    I’m sure you’d have preferred they make it up like your favorite, the New York Slimes  – eh, dumbass?

    Try to get your irrational hatred of Kerry under contol, will you?

    Don’t like it, shitstain?.  Think you’ve got the balls to come do something about it?

    I suppose that it’s totally out of the question that Bush chose the TANG as a relatively safe but politically viable alternative to moving to Canada?

    Just like your honey AlGore chose to go to Vietnam as a journalist???   Just like your boy Ketchup@$$ chose what he thought was going to be a relatively safe assignment on a swift boat?  Just like your boy Slick Willie chose the “relatively safe but politically viable alternative” of going to Oxford and bleating about the war?

    While the war was still going on Bush asked for a leave of absence to work on a political campaign in Florida

    So?  It’s not like they had to grant it, dumbass – and had they needed him, all they had to do was call him back.  Again, you’re blaming Bush for LBJ’s decision not to use him in combat, and in so doing, showing us what a shit-for-brains you really are.

    Nice going, fuckhead. (guffaw)

    Ah, so if LBJ had ordered Bush’s unit to nam, he might have served as bravely as Kerry! And if LBJ had ordered Kerry to pilot his swift boat up the Volga to assassinate Brezhnev, he might have brought an end to the Evil Empire long before Reagan.

    Hey, can we help it if you Demoscum can’t fight wars worth a shit? (snicker)

    I didn’t ask for his transcript, dumb fuck. I asked for proof about these so-called “legacy admissions” and “gentlemen’s C’s”.

    Okay, while I’m at it should I also provide proof that the world is round, that cows go moo, and that the Pope shits in the woods?

    You made the accusation, dicklick.  Put up or shut up.

    You obviously don’t know many people with advanced degrees, Lord Dickwasher

    You obviously don’t have the balls to come say that to my face, Wanker.

    otherwise you would know that having one – even from a really famous school like Harvard – is no guarantee against being a blithering moron

    I guess not.  Look what going to Penn did to you.  ROFL!!!!

    What I care about is his job performance as president, which has been certifiably imbecilic.

    Certified by whom, fuckface?  You?  Gonna take a lot more than that, shithead.

    This is as close to your face as I have any interest in getting, Lord Pisspot.

    Translation:  Bawk, bok bok bok bawwwwwwwwwwwwkkkkkkkk!!!

    There, I just coldcocked myself on your behalf.

    Sticking a feather up your ass again, Wanker?  Yeah, you’re a reeeeeal tough guy, alright. (cackle)

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    zetetic growls and barks:

    I suspect Troll-boy’s no stranger to coldcocking himself. Or warmcocking, for that matter.

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    Wilbur growls and barks:

    Man, that was a long post. Too bad the Olympics are over, Lord Spatula, you could’ve been a contender in the 800-meter knuckle walk.

    I think your serial idiocy can be sufficiently exemplified by just one thought-free statement:

    I’d rather have someone in Washington who had to work for what he has than some elitist asshole like your sweetie Botox Boy who thinks he was born to it.

    This would be George W. Bush you’re talking about? The son of George H.W. Bush, the grandson of Prescott Bush? The George W. Bush who (I suppose) got up at 4:00 a.m. to milk cows and deliver newspapers so he could pay his tuition at Andover?

    You know, it used to be fun to come here and try to entice rubes like Professor Spatula, MD, DD, LL.D. into saying something really stupid, but it’s just been too easy lately.

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    Matt growls and barks:

    Mark Steyn, as usual, has this guy’s number.

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    Wilbur growls and barks:

    Note to Wilburrrrrrr— Disagreeing with someone’s actions or lifestyle choice is not hate. Get back to me when the local Republicans burn a cross in his yard, and I’ll condemn it as will many, many other Republicans.

    There’s a nice compassionate message of Republican inclusion: “unless someone’s burning a cross on your yard, shut the [cheney] up.”

    “Logic for Dummies”—Really feeling the love there, Burrrrrrr…Can’t debate my point, so you resort to calling me dumb. Cute, but I have a feeling my IQ is substantially higher than yours. “

    Maybe your I.Q. is bazillion, but you still can’t follow a simple logical argument. I’ll break it down for you:

    You argued basically the following:

    1) A few left wingers have committed violent acts, therefore
    2) All left wingers (“your side”, as you put it) are anti-peace and anti-love

    I attempted to illustrate the flaw in this reasoning by replicating it’s structure with different particulars:

    1) Representative Schrock (a right-winger) has been shown to be a pathetic, lying, hypocritical buttfucker, therefore
    2) All right-wingers (that includes you and all your mutt friends here) are pathetic, lying, hypocritical buttfuckers.

    Note that I’m not saying that no. 2 there is true. I’m saying it is true if we accept your argument as valid, which it isn’t.

    Do you understand now why the issue of whether Rep. Schrock was spat on (etc.) is completely irrelevant?

    In regard to my observation that the Log Cabin Republicans are beginning to wonder whether there’s a spot for them in the Republican “big tent”, Albedo remarks:

    I could come to the same conclusion about pro-life Democrats.

    Yep you could. It wasn’t me who brought up the Log Cabin Republicans though, so I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove. As far as I’m concerned we could work out a trade: we’ll take your gays and give you our anti-choice fanatics in return. We’ll throw in Zell Miller too, no extra charge. Deal?

    Then Albedo posted some videos showing some people getting violent. I suppose these are all Democrats or left-wingers of some sort? I’ll assume they are. Does this establish a pattern? Well, I could post some videos of Klan rallies or Republithugs disrupting Florida recounts and ask you the same question.

    If there’s any sort of pattern, it’s as follows: most on the left are committed to non-violence, but if you think that means they won’t fight back when attacked, verbally or physically, you’re mistaken. The Care Bear left is a figment of y’all’s imagination. If we’re too rough for you, you’ve only yourselves to blame. Play nice with us and we’ll (mostly) play nice with you.

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    Albedo growls and barks:

    Well aren’t we the pompous git.

    we’ll take your gays and give you our anti-choice fanatics in return

    It’s good to know that those who do not tow the party line regarding abortion are suddenly labelled as fanatics. Where’s the respect for differing opinions you leftoids are renowned for? It’s ironic to note that pro-choice Republicans are not under some unofficial sanction when it comes to speaking their minds on this issue.

    I suppose these are all Democrats or left-wingers of some sort?

    Why yes…they’re paid operatives by the Bushcheneyhalliburton oligarchy. Happy?

    I could post some videos of Klan rallies

    Sorry sunshine…the Klan historically votes Democrat. Oh, they sometimes even manage to become Senators as well.

    Republithugs disrupting Florida recounts

    That’s curious…I thought you would be opposed to backroom recounts unrestrained by that troublesome concept of public scrutiny.

    If there’s any sort of pattern, it’s as follows: most on the left are committed to non-violence, but if you think that means they won’t fight back when attacked, verbally or physically, you’re mistaken.

    So “verbal” attacks constitute a ground for physical retribution. Try using that defence in court, you won’t get very far. Please, point out to me exactly where in that footage there was any physical provocation on the part of the Bush supporters.

    The Care Bear left is a figment of y’all’s imagination. If we’re too rough for you, you’ve only yourselves to blame. Play nice with us and we’ll (mostly) play nice with you.

    Bollocks. No, leftoids will be perfectly content to suckerpunch, and looking a man in the eye when you throw your first punch. You lot seem to take a page from Al Franken when it comes to fighting.

  81. 81
    Wilbur growls and barks:

    Well aren’t we the pompous git.

    Speak for yourself, squire.

    we’ll take your gays and give you our anti-choice fanatics in return

    It’s good to know that those who do not tow the party line regarding abortion are suddenly labelled as fanatics.

    No, I didn’t say all anti-choice people were fanatics, I said anti-choice fanatics might be happier in some party other than the Democratic. Those who aren’t fanatics can put that issue in perspective and value their membership in the party for other reasons.

    Things are a bit different for the Republicans and gays. The anti-gayness of the party means that they’re not just against your pet issue they’re against you.

    Where’s the respect for differing opinions you leftoids are renowned for?

    We respect differing opinions, but a party has to stand for something. We stand for personal liberty, which -for most of us- includes a woman’s right to control her own body. A lot of Dems are personally uncomfortable with that last part, including our presidential nominee.

    It’s ironic to note that pro-choice Republicans are not under some unofficial sanction when it comes to speaking their minds on this issue.

    Oh? I didn’t listen to Ahnold or Rudy or Pataki speaking at the RNC. Did they express their commitment to protecting reproductive rights? How did the delegates respond?

    Sorry sunshine…the Klan historically votes Democrat. Oh, they sometimes even manage to become Senators as well.

    Nice shyster use of the word “historically”. These ain’t the days of reconstruction, laddy buck. Nowadays the Klan and all white supremicists, from David Duke down to Trent Lott and Sperminator Thurmond are Republican with a bullett. I despise Senator Byrd, but as you well know, you lying fuck, he repudiated his Klan ties years ago, which puts him a couple of evolutionary eons above this sorry GOP puke, or this revolting Republican motherfucker.

    That’s curious…I thought you would be opposed to backroom recounts unrestrained by that troublesome concept of public scrutiny.

    I am, but I’m also against selective enforcement of said scrutiny by violent mobs.

    If there’s any sort of pattern, it’s as follows: most on the left are committed to non-violence, but if you think that means they won’t fight back when attacked, verbally or physically, you’re mistaken.

    So “verbal” attacks constitute a ground for physical retribution. Try using that defence in court, you won’t get very far. Please, point out to me exactly where in that footage there was any physical provocation on the part of the Bush supporters.

    I did not say that verbal attacks were grounds for physical retribution. I beleive that any physical violence, provoked or unprovoked, should be prosecuted and punished if it is not necessary for self-defense. In the case of the guy who punched the twerp with the Bush signs, that seems to be a pretty cut and dried case of assault. What’s going on in that other video is less clear. I hope that it goes to court and that justice prevails, but that doesn’t always happen. I mean, look who we have as president!

    The Care Bear left is a figment of y’all’s imagination. If we’re too rough for you, you’ve only yourselves to blame. Play nice with us and we’ll (mostly) play nice with you.

    Bollocks. No, leftoids will be perfectly content to suckerpunch, and looking a man in the eye when you throw your first punch. You lot seem to take a page from Al Franken when it comes to fighting.

    And you lot seem to take a page from Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh when it comes to lying.

  82. 82
    Albedo growls and barks:

    Wet Willy opines:

    No, I didn’t say all anti-choice people were fanatics, I said anti-choice fanatics might be happier in some party other than the Democratic.

    Obtuseness..it’s what’s for dinner.

    Those who aren’t fanatics can put that issue in perspective and value their membership in the party for other reasons.

    So who sets the criteria on whether a pro-life Democrat is a “fanatic”? You? Terry McAuliffe? The Politburo? Who makes these decisions? Are there degrees of fanaticism? From the article I linked to above:

    “It seemed like the Democratic Party became less pro-choice and more pro-abortion during the 1980s. For some reason, freedom of speech and thought stopped when it came to abortion.”

    The only place where it was OK to talk about both sides of the abortion issue was the Republican Party [oh the sweet smell of irony-A]. Since 1984, I have voted for the Republicans, primarily because of the abortion issue. It hasn’t been easy. I didn’t really like Bush I or Bush II, but when the Democrats shut off any pro-life speeches [free speech and all that pap...leftoid style-A]at the … 1992 convention, I couldn’t vote for Clinton.”

    It was at the 1992 Democratic Convention that then-Pennsylvania Gov. Robert Casey, whom I had the privilege of knowing, was prevented from speaking. This, even though, of all of the governors in the nation, he had done more than any other for the poor (including providing health insurance for children whose families couldn’t afford it, but were not eligible for public assistance).

    For women, Casey required HMOs to pay for annual mammograms for women over age 40, and he set up multi-dimensional health care programs for women and children. But the late governor was pro-life, and so Clinton’s convention handlers blocked him from speaking. Casey asked me at the time: “What has become of the Democratic Party I once knew? It’s become a wholly owned subsidiary of the National Abortion Rights Action League.”

    Things are a bit different for the Republicans and gays. The anti-gayness of the party means that they’re not just against your pet issue they’re against you.

    But, I thought that right-wingers are “pathetic hypocritical lying buttfuckers”.

    We respect differing opinions

    Pity you couldn’t respect the right to privacy.

    but a party has to stand for something. We stand for personal liberty, which -for most of us- includes a woman’s right to control her own body. A lot of Dems are personally uncomfortable with that last part, including our presidential nominee.

    The herd mentality in action. Remarkable.

    Oh? I didn’t listen to Ahnold or Rudy or Pataki speaking at the RNC. Did they express their commitment to protecting reproductive rights? How did the delegates respond?

    Maybe it’s because they realize that reproductive rights are not some type of sacrament. The irony in all this is that leftoids accuse the Right of being hungup over abortion, yet they seem to have this obsessive need to bring the issue up at every turn. It’s well known that Arnold is pro-choice. But he, unlike you it seems, has a grasp on the concept of priorities. Last I checked Roe v. Wade was still in effect, despite what your fevered dreams tell you.

    Nice shyster use of the word “historically”.

    I leave that to your expertise.

    These ain’t the days of reconstruction, laddy buck

    Try circa 1960. It was the Southern Democrats who overwhelmingly opposed the Civil Rights movement. Think George Wallace (Democrat) or Albert Gore Sr. if you will.

    David Duke

    A nutter who originally ran as a Democrat. And just what position does he now hold in Congress?

    Trent Lott

    Who rightfully resigned.

    Sperminator Thurmond

    Why yes…a leopard cannot change their spots (unless they are a Democrat of course).

    I despise Senator Byrd, but as you well know, you lying fuck, he repudiated his Klan ties years ago

    Looks like someone has worked themselves into a froth. Are you talking about the same Robert Byrd who wrote that:

    “The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the Union.”

    three years after reportedly ending his involvment with the Klan? Is this the same Byrd who filibustered the Civil Rights Act for more than 14 hours? Surely you don’t mean the same Senator who opposed the nomination of Thurgood Marshall (a liberal no less) or Clarence Thomas? Is this the same individual who said, as recently as 2001, that:

    “There are white niggers. I’ve seen a lot of white niggers in my time. I’m going to use that word. We just need to work together to make our country a better country, and I’d just as soon quit talking about it so much.”

    I might as throw Senator Fritz Hollings in there as well. He seems to think that the war in Iraq was an attempt by Bush to win the Jewish vote. Though he seems to have forgotten that a) the Jewish vote is relatively small and b)there is no evidence that Jews were broadly in favour of the war. But…you know…blame the joooos is such a tried and true method. And nary a peep from the Democratic leadership either.

    above this sorry GOP puke

    And where exactly is the racial slur here?

    this revolting Republican motherfucker.

    Nice try.

    I am, but I’m also against selective enforcement of said scrutiny by violent mobs.

    Nice little evasion. The argument, as you put forward was reported by the NYT here(registration required):

    One nonpartisan member of the board, David Leahy, the supervisor of elections, said after the vote that the protests were one factor that he had weighed in his decision.

    “This was perceived as not being an open and fair process,” Mr. Leahy said. “That weighed heavy on our minds.”

    And you get a far different account here (registration required):

    But Leahy — one of three members of the canvassing board — denied Friday that the protests played any part in his decision to scrub the recount.

    “The protest was not a factor in my decision, he said. “We simply could not get it done by the deadline.

    Leahy denied a report in The New York Times that quoted him as saying the protests had influenced his vote to call off the recount.

    He said the protest outside his office had influenced the board’s decision to return to the 18th floor, but not his vote to scrap the recount.

    “I was concerned that what we were doing was not being perceived as a fair and open process, Leahy told reporters on Wednesday.

    There was no evil right wing Mob, there was no riot, I have not heard any evidence of Republicans “punching” (according to Boies) and stomping on Democrats or election workers. Nobody has been charged with assault, no witnesses came forward, just “reports” from fellow democrats, and “stories in the New York Times”, that have been refuted by the person supposedly “quoted”.

    I did not say that verbal attacks were grounds for physical retribution.

    Were you born with the ability to talk out of both sides of your mouth or was it something you had to hone over time. This is what you originally said:

    they won’t fight back when attacked, verbally or physically, you’re mistaken.

    What’s it going to be?

    other video is less clear

    Obtuse as ever I see.

    I hope that it goes to court and that justice prevails

    What’s this? We finally get some sort of condemnation from Wilbur. Of course, after he originally tried to brush it off. Your concern is touching….really, it is.

    And you lot seem to take a page from Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh when it comes to lying.

    Yes Wilbur…Occam’s razor does work. In case you were wondering, my comment was in reference to this incident at a Dean rally back in January:

    “I got down low and took his legs out.” [a leftoid who won't look a man in the eye when he swings...how surprising-A]

    Mind you, it was a LaRouche supporter so I actually don’t mind. I say let one Democratic wanker have it out with another Democratic wanker. Then again, Franken’s exploits are best taken with a grain of salt.

  83. 83
    Wilbur growls and barks:

    Obtuseness..it’s what’s for dinner.

    Once again, speak for yourself. I had a nice juicy steak, thanks.

    So who sets the criteria on whether a pro-life Democrat is a “fanatic”? You? Terry McAuliffe?

    McAuliffe or I might decide that someone is a fanatic, but their decision to leave the party is theirs and theirs alone, as the article you cite shows. Same with Republicans who disagree with parts of the party platform.

    “The only place where it was OK to talk about both sides of the abortion issue was the Republican Party [oh the sweet smell of irony-A].”

    Still waiting for you to tell me how many pro-choice speeches there were at the RNC.

    “Since 1984, I have voted for the Republicans, primarily because of the abortion issue.”

    All I can say is if saving four-week-old fetuses is more important to you than peace, jobs, economic stability, personal liberty, social justice and the environment, then the Republican party is probably is the place for you. But you, Albumen, are the one who brought up the abortion issue, not me.

    But, I thought that right-wingers are “pathetic hypocritical lying buttfuckers”.

    Some of them probably are, but that’s not what I said. Obviously your ability to read and follow an argument are no better than the average around here.

    We respect differing opinions

    Pity you couldn’t respect the right to privacy.

    Glad to see you admit that there is a right to privacy. Republicans have had trouble understanding that concept in recent years.

    but a party has to stand for something. We stand for personal liberty, which -for most of us- includes a woman’s right to control her own body. A lot of Dems are personally uncomfortable with that last part, including our presidential nominee.

    The herd mentality in action. Remarkable.

    Right. It’s been really inspiring hearing the plurality of voices emanating from MSG the last few days. Haw.

    Oh? I didn’t listen to Ahnold or Rudy or Pataki speaking at the RNC. Did they express their commitment to protecting reproductive rights? How did the delegates respond?

    Maybe it’s because they realize that reproductive rights are not some type of sacrament. The irony in all this is that leftoids accuse the Right of being hungup over abortion, yet they seem to have this obsessive need to bring the issue up at every turn.

    Um, which one of us brought it up this time? Oh yes, I believe it was YOU. I’m just using the criteria YOU set out here. Your complaint was that it was so awful that no anti-choice speeches were on the program at the DNC. Rudy and Ahnold and Pataki were put on the RNC program to give the repugs a veneer of moderation, but they knew damn well they better not mention the A word.

    These ain’t the days of reconstruction, laddy buck

    Try circa 1960.

    I know you Republicans like to live in the past, but I’m more concerned with what is happening now.

    David Duke

    A nutter who originally ran as a Democrat. And just what position does he now hold in Congress?

    About the same position as the Dixiecrat fucks who opposed civil rights in the 60′s; but then again there is…

    Trent Lott

    Who rightfully resigned.

    Who was reluctantly forced into resignation of his leadership post, and who is still a powerful member of the senate.

    Sperminator Thurmond

    Why yes…a leopard cannot change their spots (unless they are a Democrat of course).

    That’s right, Thurmond was a Democrat. There is a reason he became a republican; because the Democratic party became unhospitable to racist fuckweeds, but the Republican party was more open-minded on that issue.

    this revolting Republican motherfucker.

    Nice try.

    Efforts by the current republican leadership tries to distance itself from racist orangutangs like this do not change the fact that such people nowadays find themselves far more frequently attracted to the Republican side of the aisle.

    By it’s rightward lurch under Bush/Cheney, the Republican party is making itself more and more welcome to racists and less and less welcome to not only gays but, it seems, blacks as well.

    I did not say that verbal attacks were grounds for physical retribution.

    Were you born with the ability to talk out of both sides of your mouth or was it something you had to hone over time. This is what you originally said:

    they won’t fight back when attacked, verbally or physically, you’re mistaken.

    By which I obviously meant fight back verbally when attacked verbally. Read much? Kind of a funny postion for you to be taking on a list where right wing threats of violence in response to verbal attacks are are dime a dozen, huh?

    I hope that it goes to court and that justice prevails

    What’s this? We finally get some sort of condemnation from Wilbur.

    I have always condemned unnecessary violence, but I’ll leave it to you all to lather yourself up into a lynching fury over a little pushing and shoving at a confrontational demonstration. If you’re going to run crying to mamma over that you better lay in a big supply of hankies over the next few months.

  84. 84
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    And heeeeeere’s Wilbur!

    Let’s see if he has anything besides the usual democrat slogans.

    blah blah blah I now you are but what am I blah blah blah You’re all stupid rubes blah blah blah I’m more intelligent blah blah blah Republicans are evil blah blah blah Republicans are racist blah blah blah All the democrat racists became Republicans blah blah blah

    An observation: I guess Robert “KKK” Byrd and Fritz Hollings didn’t get the memo.

    blah blah blah you’re all wimps blah blah blah This is too easy blah blah blah your insults don’t affect me even though the tone of my obsessive long winded screeds tell a different story blah blah blah etc. etc.

    Nope, same old bullshit.

    He’s like a parrot thats been locked up in a basement with Michael Moore and Terry McAuliffe for five years.

    Brawk! Bush is evil! Brawk! Republicans are racists! Brawk! etc.

    *yawn*

    I’ve come to the conclusion that Wilbur is an endless loop of stereotypical democrat talking points.

    But hey, it’s like having a pet moonbat providing a little window into the leftist asshat mind.

    Now all we have to do is “housebreak” him……

  85. 85
    King Haiku growls and barks:

    Wilbur. Same old shit.
    Demos good, Repubs evil.
    Four more years, moonbat!

  86. 86
    Lord Spatula I, K&T growls and barks:

    Man, that was a long post. Too bad the Olympics are over, Lord Spatula, you could’ve been a contender in the 800-meter knuckle walk.

    You mean while you’re earning the gold in the 5-centimeter goat-fuck?  (5 centimeters, of course, because that’s the probable length of your dick – right, assbiscuit?)

    I think your serial idiocy can be sufficiently exemplified by just one thought-free statement:

    I’d rather have someone in Washington who had to work for what he has than some elitist asshole like your sweetie Botox Boy who thinks he was born to it.

    This would be George W. Bush you’re talking about? The son of George H.W. Bush, the grandson of Prescott Bush? The George W. Bush who (I suppose) got up at 4:00 a.m. to milk cows and deliver newspapers so he could pay his tuition at Andover?

    And how many jobs has your butt-buddy Ketchup-@$$ had in his adult lifetime, numbnuts?  How many people has he employed in the private sector, fuckface?

    (cueing the choir of crickets)

    Yeah, I thought  so.  Got handed another heaping helping of STFU again,  didn’t you, Willlllllbrrrrrrrrrrrr? (snicker)

    You know, it used to be fun to come here and try to entice rubes like Professor Spatula, MD, DD, LL.D. into saying something really stupid, but it’s just been too easy lately.

    How would you know, shithead?  It’s not like you ever have or anything…

    Then Albedo posted some videos showing some people getting violent. I suppose these are all Democrats or left-wingers of some sort? I’ll assume they are. Does this establish a pattern? Well, I could post some videos of Klan rallies or Republithugs disrupting Florida recounts and ask you the same question.

    Well, then, let’s see it, asswipe.  Put up or shut up.  Let’s see whatcha got, simp.

    If there’s any sort of pattern, it’s as follows: most on the left are committed to non-violence, but if you think that means they won’t fight back when attacked, verbally or physically, you’re mistaken. The Care Bear left is a figment of y’all’s imagination. If we’re too rough for you, you’ve only yourselves to blame. Play nice with us and we’ll (mostly) play nice with you.

    Then I’m sure you’d love to come spew your bullshit to my face, wouldn’t you, coward?

    Oh, that’s right – you’ve already admitted you’d piss your pants if you ever had to do that.  Never mind. (guffaw)

  87. 87
    Wilbur growls and barks:

    Elephant Man: your posts always remind me of that Far Side Cartoon “what we say/what dogs hear” It shows a guy talking to his dog, and all the dog hears is “Ginger, blah blah blah Ginger, blah blah Ginger.”

    Lord Spat gives us another dose of his insipid buffoonery. As far as I can tell he makes one quasi-serious response to what I’ve written:

    [The Spatulator]: I’d rather have someone in Washington who had to work for what he has than some elitist asshole like your sweetie Botox Boy who thinks he was born to it.

    [me] This would be George W. Bush you’re talking about? The son of George H.W. Bush, the grandson of Prescott Bush? The George W. Bush who (I suppose) got up at 4:00 a.m. to milk cows and deliver newspapers so he could pay his tuition at Andover?

    [Lord Crapula]: And how many jobs has your butt-buddy Ketchup-@$$ had in his adult lifetime, numbnuts? How many people has he employed in the private sector, fuckface?

    I never made any bones about Kerry being a son of privilege. You were the one making the belly-laughable claim that GWB was some kind of hard-knocks hero.

    How many jobs has Kerry had? Do you mean jobs that he earned on his own merits and didn’t buy with family money? I think he’s at least one ahead of GWB in that deparment. Kerry took his BC law degree (I know, Boston College? How infra dig!) and became a prosecutor. Bush took his MBA from Hahvahd and with a pocketful of granddad’s simoleons, embarked on a string of failed business ventures before striking it rich on the backs of Arlington taxpayers.

    How many jobs has Kerry created? Donno. Has Bush created any? Certainly not as president. Oh, I know, he did get Sammy Sosa a job with the Cubs.

    Now before you come down on me for dissing Our President, remember, it wasn’t me who brought up his job history. It’s not his spotty academic record, business career and military service that make him a bad president. What makes him a bad president is … being a bad president.

    Then there’s this:
    Then I’m sure you’d love to come spew your bullshit to my face, wouldn’t you, coward?

    I have nothing to prove in the manliness department. I’m sorry you feel that you do.

    But let’s suppose I did fly down to prairie dog town and say all this to your face. One of two things would happen:

    1) You would make good on all your comicbook bluster and try to beat me to a pulp….

    oh but then you’d be one of those nasty people who respond to verbal attacks with physical violence, and as Albedo has just told us it’s only horrible left-wingers who do that. You’re an orderly, law-abiding right-winger, so option 1 is out the window, so that leaves option number 2:

    2) You’d stand there with a shit-eating grin on your face while I laugh my ass off.

    There you go, Lord Spatula, I’ve just proved, scientifically, that you are a chickenshit pisscutter.

    King: Loved the haiku. Now that’s what I call creative abuse.

  88. 88
    Albedo growls and barks:

    You are sophism writ large Willy…can I call you Willy? Good job mate, you never cease to disappoint. Really, twattery suits you to a tee.

    McAuliffe or I might decide that someone is a fanatic, but their decision to leave the party is theirs and theirs alone, as the article you cite shows. Same with Republicans who disagree with parts of the party platform.

    And you still haven’t given me an operational definition of what constitutes a pro-life fanatic. The entire crux of your argument revolves around the premise that there is a certain segment of the Democratic Party that is too extreme on this particular issue.

    Still waiting for you to tell me how many pro-choice speeches there were at the RNC. Um, which one of us brought it up this time? Oh yes, I believe it was YOU. I’m just using the criteria YOU set out here. Your complaint was that it was so awful that no anti-choice speeches were on the program at the DNC. Rudy and Ahnold and Pataki were put on the RNC program to give the repugs a veneer of moderation, but they knew damn well they better not mention the A word.

    Paying attention is fun…it saves people the effort to point out the obvious. The article I posted does make mention of flowery convention speeches, which you, not I, seem to be obssessed with. However, if you had bothered to read the article at length you would realize that’s just a portion of the the difficulty facing pro-life liberals. What is up for debate is the level of discourse your political party (the party of tolerance and diversity of opinion, or so they say) is practicing and what it allows. In other words, you leftoids are suffering from the classic symptoms of theory vs. praxis. And so Willy, you think that the level of commitment to a particular issue is measured by how many convention speeches address said issue? Here’s a hint Willy…you don’t have to have a collective display of self- flagellation in order to prove your credentials, regardless of what that issue might be. But as I mentioned, if you wish to engage in herd mentality, you’re more than welcome to.

    All I can say is if saving four-week-old fetuses

    Nice little assumption you have about my views on abortion. Care to pull any others out of your arse? Roe v. Wade was an important decision that was necessary. However, most people see past the histronics you leftoids engage in and recognize that piece of legislation is not going to be pulled off the shelf anytime soon.

    more important to you than peace

    Delusions that placating terrorists and the states which sponsor them cannot be taken as a true peace. Of course, you can always practice your tried and true slogan of “No Blood for Oil (or is that French oil?). Still won’t get you very far.

    jobs, economic stability

    Unemployment rate at 5.5% (compared to the average 5.8% during the 1990′s). In July alone 629 000 new jobs were created.

    personal liberty

    Leftism? Personal Liberty? But aren’t we all one big collective? “It takes a village” and all that jazz.

    social justice and the environment

    Leftist pap.

    then the Republican party is probably is the place for you

    Who said I was a Republican? For that matter,who said I was an American.

    But you, Albumen, are the one who brought up the abortion issue, not me.

    I believe, Willy, that the underlying issue that you originally addressed was inclusiveness and tolerance of opinions that diverge from the “party line”. I just pointed out the fact that Dhimmicrats (I like that word…I’ll go with it from now on) might not have such a big tent as you would care to envision. Sure, you might have the whole song and dance about respecting diversity of opinion. However, many pro- life democrats feel like they have to prove themselves and find it difficult to get their perspective across to the rest of the Party.

    Some of them probably are, but that’s not what I said. Obviously your ability to read and follow an argument are no better than the average around here.

    Oh dear…is this where I say “ouch”? Do I now tremble before your brilliant wit? Fact of the matter is you used a word that to most people would find…well, not exactly politically correct. Do you always refer to your gay friends as “buttfuckers”, or only the right- wing or libertarian ones?

    Glad to see you admit that there is a right to privacy. Republicans have had trouble understanding that concept in recent years.

    I for one was not impressed by the tactics used by Ken Starr during his investigation. However, I do believe that Clinton was charged with perjury in the end.

    About the same position as the Dixiecrat fucks who opposed civil rights in the 60′s;

    The Dixiecrat ticket occured during the 1948 election, and largely dissolved afterwards. Interesting to note that all these Democrats, with the exception of Thurmond, never formally renounced their membership in the Democratic (or is that Dhimmicratic?) Party. What’s infinitely more telling is that they were never asked to leave. According to a friend who lives in Baton Rouge the Republican Party printed up bumper stickers that said, “VOTE FOR THE CROOK, IT’S IMPORTANT” during the race between David Duke and Democrat Edwin Edwards,

    Who was reluctantly forced into resignation of his leadership post, and who is still a powerful member of the senate.

    Strange that the Grand Kleagle recieved no censure or reprimand for his “white niggers” remark. I mean, after all, the term “nigger” is understood to be one of the most heinous words in the English language, regardless of the context in which it was used. But of course, the rank and file of the Dhimmicratic Party…they could never be racially bigoted? Or can they? How about Janeane Garafalo calling Larry Elder a “house negro“? Don’t even get me started on the fact that you allow a known racebaiter (“diamond merchants in Crown Heights”)to speak at your Convention, or point out that Jesse Jackson, a Democratic stalwart, has referred to New York in the past as “Hymietown“. Still, I won’t wait for your selective outrage anytime soon.

    That’s right, Thurmond was a Democrat. There is a reason he became a republican; because the Democratic party became unhospitable to racist fuckweeds, but the Republican party was more open-minded on that issue.

    Yes, unfortunately Thurmond was a segregationist. However, I find it peculiar that you leftist ticks seem to give George Wallace a free pass. It’s also interesting to note some of Thurmond’s more egregious acts:

    -first southern Senator to hire an African-American staffer.
    -voted in favour of extending the Voting Rights Act in 1982.
    -voted in favour of the creation of Martin Luther King Jr. Day (irony of ironies).

    Of course, none of this excuses his Segregationist past, but I thought the Left believed that people could mend their ways. Senator Biden, in his remarks to the Senate in June, 2003:

    ?In 1947 or 1948, [there is] a lead editorial in the New York Times. The title of the editorial, if memory serves me correct, was something like ?The Hope of the South.? It was about Strom Thurmond. The New York Times, the liberal New York Times in the late ?40s?must have been ?47, before the Dixiecrat event and him walking out [of the Democratic convention]?wrote about this guy Strom Thurmond who was a public official in South Carolina who got himself in trouble and lost a primary because he was too empathetic to African Americans. When he was a presiding judge, he started an effort statewide in South Carolina that tried to get better textbooks and materials into black schools. And he tutored young blacks and set up an organization to tutor and teach young blacks how to read. Strom Thurmond. Strom Thurmond.?

    Efforts by the current republican leadership tries to distance itself from racist orangutangs like this do not change the fact that such people nowadays find themselves far more frequently attracted to the Republican side of the aisle.

    Nice little evasion Willy. So, the Republican Party would sacrifice a potential constituency in order to maintain good PR? I thought Republicans were power hungry and would maintain power by any means nessecary. I thought the Republicans wanted a “white only” apartheid state and regress to Jim Crow. Go figure.

    By which I obviously meant fight back verbally when attacked verbally.

    Classic leftoid double speak. Here’s a suggestion for you Willy, try not to engage a non-sequitur as a form of argumentation.

    most on the left are committed to non-violence, but if you think that means they won’t fight back when attacked, verbally or physically, you’re mistaken.

    So is there such a thing as “verbal violence” Willy? And please, refrain from giving me some dodgy feminist definition please.

    Read much?

    I’m actually in the middle of The Book of Five Rings by Musashi right now. I finished The Aeneid two weeks ago. Thanks for asking though.

    Kind of a funny postion for you to be taking on a list where right wing threats of violence in response to verbal attacks are are dime a dozen, huh?

    Now scroll up and tell me where exactly I had threatened you with physical violence. True, the comments here can be over the top sometimes, but you can find just as many allusion to violence on Lefty blogs or forums. Oh, I don’t know…take a stroll to Democratic Underground (presidential assasinations, potential civil war, etc.). Also note the irony in the fact that the evil Fascist Misha allows you to post here without banning you outright while the denizens of DU must pass the muster of ideological purity. This blog is a catharsis, be glad that it isn’t a spontaneous real-time event. Besides…I thought you said there was no Care Bear Left. Are you that thin-skinned? Oh…and have a nice day.

  89. 89
    Lord Spatula I, King & Tyrant growls and barks:

    Lord Spat gives us another dose of his insipid buffoonery.

    While you give us still more of your cowardly bullshit.  Sucks to be such a pansy-assed needle-dick, doesn’t it, Wanker?

    I never made any bones about Kerry being a son of privilege.

    No, of course not.  That, you reserve for Bush, even though Botox Boy gags on a far bigger silver spoon.  Pot-kettle-black, fuckface.

    You were the one making the belly-laughable claim that GWB was some kind of hard-knocks hero.

    And I’m going to continue to kick your skanky leftist ass with it as I see fit, assmunch.  Come do something about it if you don’t like it.

    How many jobs has Kerry had? Do you mean jobs that he earned on his own merits and didn’t buy with family money? I think he’s at least one ahead of GWB in that deparment. Kerry took his BC law degree (I know, Boston College? How infra dig!) and became a prosecutor.

    Uh huh.  A prosecutor.  In other words, on the public dole again.

    Let’s rephrase (one- or two-syllable words so you can follow along):  How many private sector  jobs has Ketchup-@$$ had?

    Bush took his MBA from Hahvahd and with a pocketful of granddad’s simoleons, embarked on a string of failed business ventures

    He’s created jobs.  He’s made payrolls.  More of each than your butt-buddy Botox Boy has, dumbfuck.

    before striking it rich on the backs of Arlington taxpayers.

    Newsflash for you, shit-for-brains:  That was put to a vote of Arlington citizens.  They approved  it, simp, so your pithy little half-assed argument gets crushed.

    Again.   Gawd™, it sucks to be you sometimes. (snicker)

    How many jobs has Kerry created? Donno. Has Bush created any? Certainly not as president.

    1.4 million in a 10-month period, August ’03 – June ’04, dumbass.  You lose again.  (snicker)

    Oh, I know, he did get Sammy Sosa a job with the Cubs.

    Three division titles in a four-year span during his ownership.  How many did the Cubbies have during that time?

    (more crickets)

    Uh-huh.  Doesn’t it get tiresome having your ass handed back to you all the time? (chortle)

    Now before you come down on me for dissing Our President, remember, it wasn’t me who brought up his job history. It’s not his spotty academic record, business career and military service that make him a bad president. What makes him a bad president is … being a bad president.

    Job approval rating over 50% (as of August 13th – now it’s up around 54%).

    You lose again, simp.  Might wanna quit digging that hole of yours… (snicker)

    Then I’m sure you’d love to come spew your bullshit to my face, wouldn’t you, coward?

    I have nothing in the manliness department. I’m sorry

    Tell us something we don’t know. (guffaw)

    oh but then you’d be one of those nasty people who respond to verbal attacks with physical violence, and as Albedo has just told us it’s only horrible left-wingers who do that. You’re an orderly, law-abiding right-winger, so option 1 is out the window

    Well, I normally hate to prove my friend Albedo incorrect – but I think that, in your case, I’d make an exception and enjoy it.

    Oh, and I wouldn’t try,  limp-wrist – I’d damned well kick your ass into the middle of next week.

    There you go, Lord Spatula, I’ve just proved, scientifically, that you are a chickenshit pisscutter.

    5330 Bent Tree Forest Dr, #712
    Dallas, TX

    Come say it to my face, chickenshit.  Let’s see how fast I can shove “scientifically” up your whiny ass with my steel-toed boots, fuckface.

  90. 90
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    What a “clever” retort from Wilbur.

    Another “I know you are but what am I?”

    Keep playing that “obtuse card”, it’s making you look real good. *guffaw*

    Just pathetic…..

    But to be honest, your screeds do have a certain comic value to them. It’s not often that we get to see a bona fide pseudo-intellectual leftist asshat “emote” all over himself….

  91. 91
    Wilbur growls and barks:

    Albedo:

    And you still haven’t given me an operational definition of what constitutes a pro-life fanatic. The entire crux of your argument revolves around the premise that there is a certain segment of the Democratic Party that is too extreme on this particular issue.

    Wrong. The entire crux of my argument has nothing to do with this particular issue. Let me refresh your memory.
    – I posted a link to the story about Rep. Schrock.
    –Ms Heather leapt to the bizarre conclusion that my main reason for posting the link was to imply that the Republicans had a problem with gays. It wasn’t
    –Nevertheless, to counter this implication, she referred to the existence of the Log Cabin Republicans.
    –I posted a link indicating that the LCR’s were -to say the least- not completely happy with the party at this point in time.

    In other words, it was never I who was making the argument that the Democratic party was one big happy melting pot where absoltuely every view on every issue was welcomed with leis and rose petals. Rather, it was Ms Heather who was making that argument for the Republican party. No one has questioned the evidence I put forward to demolish that position.

    Then you come along with the irrelevant abortion stuff. Now if your point is that there are groups holding minority opinions within the Democratic party that feel marginalized and who are even _are_ marginalized on occasion, then I would agree with you. I think they should be allowed to marginalize themselves rather than being greeted with active hostility, nor is it party policy to actively marginalize them, but I won’t deny that bad things happen sometimes. What you have yet to provide any evidence for is for your apparent belief that the Democratic party is worse in that respect than the Republican party. In fact, the links I have provided show that while in the Democratic party some minority-opinion groups may feel marginalized for what they think and how they vote, in the republican party minority groups often feel marginalized for who they are; e.g. black, gay, etc. If you’ve got some evidence that points the other direction, let’s see it, and please, not stuff from forty years ago. Both parties are much different now from what they were in the early sixties. And please, one or two septagenarian fogies with racist pasts proves nothing about where the party is at here in 2004 and you know it.

    A broader issue is your apparent misconception, here and in other posts, that you are convicting democrats of inconsistency if they don’t consider all points of view equally valid or if they don’t provide an equal platform in party functions to every minority opinion. That shows a real misunderstanding of the concepts of “diversity” and “tolerance”. Not surprising that it’s hard for a right-winger to understand those concepts.

    Nice little assumption you have about my views on abortion.

    I wasn’t talking about your views, but those of the people in the article who said they supported the democrats on every other issue but voted Republican because of abortion.

    Delusions that placating terrorists and the states which sponsor them cannot be taken as a true peace.

    Now who’s pulling assumptions out of his/her “arse”? Citations, please, places where I advocate placating terrorists and/or the states that sponsor them?

    jobs, economic stability

    Unemployment rate at 5.5% (compared to the average 5.8% during the 1990′s). In July alone 629 000 new jobs were created.

    Worst job-creation record of any admin since Hoover? Job creation rate still lagging behind population growth? Inferior quality of many new jobs? Increase in the numbers of uninsured? Massive surpluses turned into massive deficits?

    personal liberty

    Leftism? Personal Liberty? But aren’t we all one big collective? “It takes a village” and all that jazz.

    I’m sorry you can’t seem to find an appropriate balance between personal liberty and life in a community. If you move out to a shack in the wilds of Lapland, pick your own berries, gather your own firewood, dig your own privy, have nothing whatsoever to do with the rest of us, you’ll find that you have a lot more personal liberty.

    social justice and the environment

    Leftist pap.

    Yes, I realize that the rabid right thinks social justice and the environment are leftist pap.

    then the Republican party is probably is the place for you

    Who said I was a Republican? For that matter,who said I was an American.

    I was speaking in general. I don’t care what you are.

    Oh dear…is this where I say “ouch”? Do I now tremble before your brilliant wit? Fact of the matter is you used a word that to most people would find…well, not exactly politically correct.

    Another one of your childish stereotypes deflated. Here is one progressive who is not “politically correct”.

    Glad to see you admit that there is a right to privacy. Republicans have had trouble understanding that concept in recent years.

    I for one was not impressed by the tactics used by Ken Starr during his investigation. However, I do believe that Clinton was charged with perjury in the end.

    I was referring more to the arguments of the ilk of Robert Bork and Antonin Scalia in reference to issues like abortion and sodomy laws, but yes, Clinton committed a minor, inconsequential perjury in a bullshit investigation tangential to a bullshit case that right-wing republicans patriotically pressed and financed against the sitting president.

    The Dixiecrat ticket occured during the 1948 election, and largely dissolved afterwards.

    Obviously I’m talking about the polticial stance and not the formal party.

    Interesting to note that all these Democrats, with the exception of Thurmond, never formally renounced their membership in the Democratic (or is that Dhimmicratic?) Party.

    Huh? Like Trent Lott most old Dixiecrats and their political descendants are now Republican. Is there really any debate about that?

    What’s infinitely more telling is that they were never asked to leave.

    First you’re accusing us of forcing people out of the party, then you’re blaming us for NOT forcing people out of the party. Talk about flip-flops and doublespeak! Like I said, the party generally lets people make their own choices as to whether they want to belong or not. Zell Miller can call himself a Democrat all he wants and there’s not a damn thing we’re going to do about it.

    According to a friend who lives in Baton Rouge the Republican Party printed up bumper stickers that said, “VOTE FOR THE CROOK, IT’S IMPORTANT” during the race between David Duke and Democrat Edwin Edwards.

    It’s true that the mainstream of the GOP has to attempt to distance itself from the worst racists in its ranks when (and only when) those racists receive some national attention. Even though there are still a handful of australopithecines in the Democratic party, the dems don’t have to make such efforts. Everybody knows which party is more hospitable to racists.

    Yes, unfortunately Thurmond was a segregationist. However, I find it peculiar that you leftist ticks seem to give George Wallace a free pass.

    Huh? George Wallace gets a free pass? You must be passing the orbit of Neptune, Albedo. One of the biggest red-meat images for the civil-rights movement is Wallace standing on the steps of the U of Alabama.

    It’s also interesting to note some of Thurmond’s more egregious acts:

    -first southern Senator to hire an African-American staffer.
    -voted in favour of extending the Voting Rights Act in 1982.
    -voted in favour of the creation of Martin Luther King Jr. Day (irony of ironies).

    Thurmond certainly was a cagy political maneuverer. You won’t find me defending Robert Byrd or Fritz Hollings or Zell Miller like that.

    Nice little evasion Willy. So, the Republican Party would sacrifice a potential constituency in order to maintain good PR? I thought Republicans were power hungry and would maintain power by any means nessecary.

    I wouldn’t say any means, but close to it.

    I thought the Republicans wanted a “white only” apartheid state and regress to Jim Crow. Go figure.

    Nice straw man, Albie. Nobody ever said that of the Republicans in general. However, where such people exist they are more likely to call themselves Republican than Democratic.

    most on the left are committed to non-violence, but if you think that means they won’t fight back when attacked, verbally or physically, you’re mistaken.

    So is there such a thing as “verbal violence” Willy? And please, refrain from giving me some dodgy feminist definition please.

    I never used the term “verbal violence”. I do think there is such a thing as responding to verbal attacks by fighting back verbally. That’s what I’m doing now. What’s your problem with that?

    Read much?

    I’m actually in the middle of The Book of Five Rings by Musashi right now. I finished The Aeneid two weeks ago.

    Aren’t we special? A shame you didn’t apply your formidable abilities to what I wrote above.

    Kind of a funny postion for you to be taking on a list where right wing threats of violence in response to verbal attacks are are dime a dozen, huh?

    Now scroll up and tell me where exactly I had threatened you with physical violence.

    Didn’t say that you did. But (to follow your own political reasoning) it is “highly significant” that you have not condemed those of your political allies who have done so.

    True, the comments here can be over the top sometimes, but you can find just as many allusion to violence on Lefty blogs or forums.

    tu quoque! The strength of your integrity is simply astonishing.

    Also note the irony in the fact that the evil Fascist Misha allows you to post here without banning you outright while the denizens of DU must pass the muster of ideological purity.

    I never read DU and am not interested in any site where particular political views are not allowed to be expressed. I do not believe Misha is an evil fascist (seriously misguided, yes), and I congratulate him for allowing opposing views on his site. Like I’ve said before, though, the day he tells me I’m not welcome here is the last day you’ll hear from me on this site.

    Are you that thin-skinned?

    Not thin-skinned at all. I was simply pointing out to you yet another inconsistency in your thinking. You’ll notice all the threats and insults have done nothing to decrease the amount that I post here. By all means, keep it up. It only shows what you all are made of.

  92. 92
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    Wow, I’ve never seen such a longwinded post that basically says nothing.

    Just the typical self-congratulatory back patting and bizarre ego gratification we’ve come to expect from our ol’ pal Wilbur.

    I hope he keeps at it. The window he provides into the leftist psuedo-intellectual mind is quite interesting.

    Besides, we can heap insults and abuse on him at a whim and can count on his ego to keep him coming back for more….

    ;)

  93. 93
    Wilbur growls and barks:

    Like I said, “blah blah blah Ginger, blah blah Ginger.”

  94. 94
    Elephant Man growls and barks:

    What a “cutting edge” retort from Wilbur.

    I’ll be sure to lose sleep over that one.

    *guffaw*

  95. 95
    Albedo growls and barks:

    Wilbur,

    I’m starting to think you might be growing on me. Nevertheless, I will respond within the next day or so. Still recovering from this damned food poisoning. Cheers.

  96. 96
    merchant account growls and barks:

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